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[DELETED] [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« on: February 03, 2018, 10:53:27 PM »

Submission Information:

Series: Super Mario
Game: Mario Paint
Console: Super Nintendo Entertainment System
Title: Title Theme
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Nine Lives
« Last Edit: May 30, 2018, 03:47:04 AM by NineLives »
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by The Deku Trombonist & NineLives
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2018, 11:13:15 PM »


 - Unless I've picked a wrong upload, something tells me that there's a loop which isn't written in here.
 - Bars 29 and 87 are missing grace notes.
 - The Submission credits Deku and NineLives, but the sheet only credits NineLives.
 - The systems are very tightly squished together. Shrinking the staff sizes slightly should alleviate the problem.
 - I believe it is possible to remove the unnecessary bottom stave from the entire first section, which would be good for spacing.
 - I do not believe the composer/arranger text is right-aligned. It needs to be.
 - Unlikely anyone would bother, but you could add the backing rhythm during the quiet sections with tapping on the piano.

I like everything else though. Good to see a sheet of this one.
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2018, 03:56:15 AM »

Spacing has been adjusted.

The rest I'll leave for Nine Lives to comment on because it's their arrangement, I just did the file conversion.
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2018, 06:04:19 AM »

The fact of the grace notes missing was more of an arrangement choice, I thought it would sound a bit better. I credited The Deku Trombonist because he helped with the file conversion and corrected some of the bigger mistakes I made, I thought it'd be appropriate since he rearranged a couple of things. The piano tap I thought about, but decided against it. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try on thinking more on that sort of stuff in future arrangements.
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by NineLives
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2018, 10:53:23 AM »

The fact of the grace notes missing was more of an arrangement choice, I thought it would sound a bit better.
An odd one at that. Usually for a song of this style (fast, with swing), grace notes would come as a more natural thing. I'm not sure what NSM's policy is on intentionally leaving out grace notes for that reason, but I'm fine with it, if it's what you want (I can't force you).

I credited The Deku Trombonist because he helped with the file conversion and corrected some of the bigger mistakes I made, I thought it'd be appropriate since he rearranged a couple of things.
I was only referring to the inconsistency between the sheet and the submission. I can see why you set it up the way you did, although I tend to prefer consistency (personal thing, do whatever).

The piano tap I thought about, but decided against it.
That's perfectly fine, it was merely a suggestion (those are hard to implement anyway).

- Unless I've picked a wrong upload, something tells me that there's a loop which isn't written in here.
 - I believe it is possible to remove the unnecessary bottom stave from the entire first section, which would be good for spacing.
 - I do not believe the composer/arranger text is right-aligned. It needs to be.
These are still here, and the last one of them is actually necessary for formatting reasons.

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try on thinking more on that sort of stuff in future arrangements.
No problem. Nice to see some Mario Paint stuff.
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 03:01:37 AM »

m.82 bass: I'm hearing D - C#, then 83. D - A. Haven't done a thorough checking yet it seems good
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2018, 12:24:17 AM »

Hi NineLives, welcome to NSM!

The main thing that pops out to me when I look at this sheet is "wasted space". Could we change the whole sheet to 6 bars per system?

An odd one at that. Usually for a song of this style (fast, with swing), grace notes would come as a more natural thing. I'm not sure what NSM's policy is on intentionally leaving out grace notes for that reason, but I'm fine with it, if it's what you want (I can't force you).
Before I address this one way or the other, I'm curious as to why you want to omit these in the first place. For one thing, they add some spice and variety to the piece (like in m. 17-20 where they differentiate the second coming of the melody from the first four bars) without making it much more difficult to play. You also do have similar figures written in your sheet already like at the end of measure 14 (which arguably should be written as grace notes) so I'm a bit confused as to why you want some of these notes omitted.
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2018, 03:09:15 AM »

Personally, I just felt like the piece sounding good without some of them. I guess it's more of having a different ear for that sort of thing. I also get you on the wasted space argument. I'd be fine if it were changed to 6 bars per system, would I have to ask for Deku Trombonist's help on that so it could be changed in the mus file as well, or can something be arranged?
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2018, 05:44:35 PM »

Sorry for the late response, but we have a thread for that:
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=685.0
Also, I really think this arrangement should have grace notes. If the performer, you, for example, doesn't like them, they can leave them out. However, it's impossible for someone to be able to add them in without checking the original.

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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2018, 02:12:33 AM »

Pretty much that. You still there?
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2018, 03:29:40 PM »

Alrighty, all grace notes have now been added and the format's been changed to 6 measures per bar.
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2018, 02:39:02 AM »

Yo, interesting stuff.

- Perhaps a bit skimpy amount of space at the top of the first page? I'd slide the title stuff down a bit, but that's a small thing.
- Multimeasure rests? I'm not complaining.
- Just want to point out quickly that not all notes have staccatos; which I'm assuming is deliberate (no, I'm not using headphones right now lol). Just making sure it is deliberate. Consider maybe for eighth notes in which the second is staccato, using a slur. Hopefully that makes sense.
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2018, 03:15:31 PM »

- Perhaps a bit skimpy amount of space at the top of the first page? I'd slide the title stuff down a bit, but that's a small thing.
- Just want to point out quickly that not all notes have staccatos; which I'm assuming is deliberate (no, I'm not using headphones right now lol). Just making sure it is deliberate. Consider maybe for eighth notes in which the second is staccato, using a slur. Hopefully that makes sense.

The size of the first header was made so combined with the lower measures, it wouldn't take up too much paper in a printer. I had a previous comment about the wasted space, so it shrunk up a bit for that reason. I think the size of the header is mostly due to the multiple composers, but they're still spaced between the subtitle and the tempo, so I didn't think it was too jumbled or anything.
I did, in fact, do the staccatos deliberately. By ear, I heard the unmarked notes in the piece, as well as the ones they represent in the reference, as longer than the marked notes. In the original composition, an echo effect is added to the melody, so I tried to shorten the notes to the initial sound of each note. I appreciate the suggestion, but I'll stick to what I have now.
Thank you for your insight! I still have a lot of other pieces, so I'll try to apply some of that knowledge in future sheet uploads.
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2018, 08:47:26 PM »

-Maybe "Swing 8s" or "Straight Ahead", but just "Swing" sounds hokey to me.
-Composer/arranger names still aren't aligned properly.
-The sixteenth notes in measures 14, 43, and 46 should be grace notes.
-A courtesy natural on the G in measure 15 would be helpful. Same in measure 30, 47.
-The dotted half note C in measure 31 should be held until beat three of the next measure (tied across the bar to a half note).
-Use Gb instead of F# in measure 43 since you're descending. It eliminates the need for the natural accidental.
-The G in measure 47 should be held until beat two of the next measure (tied across the bar to a quarter note).
-The C in measure 51 should be held until beat two of the next measure (tied across the bar to a quarter note).
-Measure 57 LH, The A's should be first-line G's.
-Is there a particular reason that you doubled the melody in octaves starting at measure 59? It doesn't sound like that in the original recording, and in my opinion it over-complicates an otherwise quaint arrangement. I would recommend not adding the lower octave.
-All of my comments regarding measures 1-54 are valid for the second half of the piece too, since it repeats.
-Insig is correct, in measure 82 the LH C should be C# and in 83 the first pitch should be third-line D.
-LH measure 85 the A should be a second-line B.
-LH measure 88 the F should be a first-line G.
-LH measure 91 the E should be an F below the staff.
-LH measure 95 the E should be an F below the staff.
-The LH pitches from measure 100-104 are all incorrect.
-LH measure 107 the B should be a second-space C.
-Looks like you wrote a little ending to this one. No problem there, but you left out the repeat back to measure 55. Use either repeat bar lines or a D.S. to show this please. Additionally, you'll need to add in the few bars at the end that you omitted.

Below are files containing all of the corrections listed above, check them out. Feel free to upload them too, which will make this submission pretty much good to go.
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Re: [SNES] Mario Paint - "Title Theme" by Nine Lives
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2018, 04:31:15 PM »

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This sheet was almost there! At your leisure, go ahead and resubmit with the above changes given by Olimar or resubmit your sheet with these:

Below are files containing all of the corrections listed above, check them out. Feel free to upload them too, which will make this submission pretty much good to go.
[MUS] [Midi] [PDF] [MUSX]

After that, it should be just about good to go.
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