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Author Topic: Kirby for the SWITCH!!  (Read 2127 times)

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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2018, 01:03:19 AM »

  • Marx apparently somehow managed to survive getting effectively blown up in the Kirby Super Star games
Slightly unrelated to Star Allies on the whole, but I stumbled across a YouTube comment explaining the Kirby timeline and apparently, not only did Marx survive the events of Milky Way Wishes, but also he and Magolor are good friends, and Marx is somewhat responsible for Magolor deciding to trick Kirby into getting the Master Crown for him.
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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2018, 04:44:24 AM »

Slightly unrelated to Star Allies on the whole, but I stumbled across a YouTube comment explaining the Kirby timeline and apparently, not only did Marx survive the events of Milky Way Wishes, but also he and Magolor are good friends, and Marx is somewhat responsible for Magolor deciding to trick Kirby into getting the Master Crown for him.

Is this Magolore
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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2018, 05:16:28 AM »

If you're in here for the lore, the Japanese Kirby Twitter 25th Anniversary account's starting to break out the concept art. None of it's going to the spoiler bin for now (early advance shot--based on the Japanese Kirby Twitter account, I will no longer put Zan Partizanne in spoiler tags), but as they add more concept art and non-intuitive stuff is exposed, I'll add more items here:
  • According to pre-Buff Dedede concept art, King Dedede naturally has thumbs. IMO, this is kinda surprising, as King Dedede is a bird.
  • All the Jambastion Mage concept art consistently has the ice mage with an axe, the fire mage with a sword, and the electric mage with a spear. In all but one image, the axe actually looks like an axe (no snowflake design on it). The ice mage often looks the least feminine of the three...which is ironic considering how tomboyish Flamberge the fire Jambastion Mage looks.

The Japanese Kirby Twitter account is also holding a photo contest, and as far as I can tell, the winners will be revealed throughout May. Given the last photo (and drawing) contest for a Kirby game, HAL Laboratory may drop further lore while describing the photos...but I'll put all such lore in another post.
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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2018, 05:20:34 PM »

According to pre-Buff Dedede concept art, King Dedede naturally has thumbs. IMO, this is kinda surprising, as King Dedede is a bird.
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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2018, 12:04:22 PM »

Star Allies looks pretty cool, but I'm not sure how the game is. What's it like?
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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2018, 01:27:34 PM »

I was really hyped for this game at first, but when I got the game I noticed a few things about it. The level design is kinda bland compared to the latest games (i.e. Planet Robobot, Return to Dreamland), the difficulty seems to be really watered down, (even more than in Robobot, possibly for younger players,) and overall story mode seems short, as if they canceled something in the development process early and that tried their best to cover it up and make it look finished. It did a few great things, like bring back the "Helper" mechanic, various forms of Copy Ability mixing, and some of the great abilities of the past (like Cook,) but that said, it wasn't very original or game-changing. Though, if you haven't played Kirby's Return to Dreamland, Kirby: Triple Deluxe, or Kirby: Planet Robobot already, I'd give this one a shot. Heck, I'd give it a shot either way, it's up to you.
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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2018, 06:51:56 PM »

Yeah, after watching boss fights over and over again, the difficulty seems too watered-down. I don't care what game it's for, boss battles should last at least 30 seconds unless they're purposefully pushover levels of easy (so the short-as-heck Mettaton NEO fight in Undertale is OK because he's supposed to be far too easy to beat, but any less-than-15-seconds boss fight in Kirby Star Allies is not because none of the bosses are presented as pushovers).

Sometimes I wonder whether none of the "turn red" boss AI changes being associated with music changes in this game is because it ruined the experience of the short boss fights in playtesting.

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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2018, 07:13:01 PM »

I’m on world 5 of Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze and tbh easy boss fights sound like a dream right now, LOL
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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2018, 04:51:43 AM »

Took me a while, but it turns out that the Kirby Star Allies Channel does indeed spout additional lore. Unfortunately, it's spoiler-tastic, and I'll keep updating this post whenever I find more Channel lore:
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  • It continues to be left ambiguous whether the Jambastion mages (Francisca, Flamberge, and Zan Partizanne) are sisters who share blood, sisters who share a family, sisters who share a religious order, or merely sisters who share a sisterhood. HAL Laboratory even likens their ambiguous stance on this to their stance on how connected Kirby and Meta Knight are to each other.
  • According to Japanese pause screen descriptions, Zan Partizanne was taken in by and directly granted magical power by Hyness. No wonder she's loyal to him. Now whether all her lightning powers come from Hyness or only some of them do is left up to our imaginations, too...
  • Turns out that Daroach hates tomatoes. However, he may still steel his stomach and eat Maxim Tomatoes. When they restore your health that much...
  • Adeleine is on the shy side when it comes to being fed items. In case it wasn't obvious from her being a child/pre-teen, she also (quite possibly still) has very little HP. Seems like Ribbon is soaking up the majority of the blows in the pair...even when she's not on-screen.
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Yes, there will be a new DLC wave coming this summer, and I may as well reveal that it contains at least 2 new Dream Friends--Daroach (who's a big fan of his Squeak Squad and seeing his treasure, so he has some pretty good, Kirby Mass Attack-related reasons to go against the bad guys) and...wait for it...Dark Meta Knight (now what the heck his reasons are and how well he can get along with Meta Knight, I do not know at all--maybe he's more of a "Only I may smash the Dimension Mirror" kind of person?). I still keep speculating that it'll contain a third Dream Friend and that Friend will be the scrapped-in-development and similarly antagonistic Magolor, but the Kirby JP Twitter account keeps promoting only 2 characters.

By the way, the photo contest didn't reveal anything new. Boo. I'm predicting an Ask-a-Thon with a ton of spoiler-ific questions sent in, though.
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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2018, 03:18:23 PM »

Dark Meta Knight is definitely a Mirror alternative for those who loved it so much in Robobot.
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Re: Kirby for the SWITCH!!
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2018, 06:14:38 AM »

Kirby Star Allies Wave 2 DLC is out! I'll try to keep things as spoiler-free for Kirby Star Allies as possible again:
  • The 3 (looks like it'll be 3 every wave) new Dream Friends this time are Daroach, Dark Meta Knight, and Adeleine and Ribbon. Daroach's brought the entire Squeak Squad with him (OK, maybe minus the pip Squeaks), and they show up in his attacks. He's greedily going after those dark, shiny Jamba Hearts--does Daroach ever learn? The eternal fool; he got possessed the last time he went after dark stuff like this... He's apparently unable to receive elemental abilities, just give them. And his Triple Star wand is still operational....
  • Dark Meta Knight has less clear reasons for why he's going after the bad guys--as far as I can tell from his descriptions, he's also after the Jamba Hearts (possibly to corrupt others with them?), and he may have gotten coerced by Meta Knight into doing this (maybe after losing a fight against him for once?). He can pull off some of his more impressive boss attacks, like raising giant sword blades out of the ground. Oh, by the way:
    Dark Meta Knight is definitely a Mirror alternative for those who loved it so much in Robobot.
    Yup, he's the closest you're going to get to playing as Simirror. ...If Simirror could fly, wield a sword, and combine received elemental abilities. (Interestingly, Dark Meta Knight's feet are apparently the same colour as his body armour. Sheesh, it's like he got his shoes from Galacta Knight's shoemaker...who I do NOT recommend.)
  • Adeleine & Ribbon need no compelling reason to fight the bad guys, unlike the other 2. Adeleine's the primary fighter, with Ribbon lifting her off the ground when they want to fly. Along with food, Adeleine can paint a variety of enemies and bring them to life--even Kracko if she's good enough! She and Ribbon can also hide behind a pastoral painting, which makes enemies ignore them.
  • At least for Adeleine & Ribbon, some of the last levels start looking an awful lot like Shiver Star. The last stage of alt story mode (Guest Star ???? Star Allies Go!) also got changed out yet again (this time, they only changed the floor to a Dark Star reference instead of a Hyper Zone reference).
  • Effective boss themes are back (yeah, I was starting to expect them). Daroach's is a remix of the Squeak Squad theme (shucks, no Squeak Boss theme like I was guessing), Dark Meta Knight's includes the Kirby and the Amazing Mirror regular boss theme and Dark Mind's most famous theme (note that he does NOT get a version of his own theme, unlike what I was predicting), and Adeleine & Ribbon's includes 02's and Miracle Matter's themes. FYI, Marx's effective boss theme is...his own theme remixed, Gooey's effective boss theme is a remix of the Hyper Zone 1 theme, and Rick & Kine & Coo's effective boss theme includes the Real Dark Matter theme and the Cloudy Park theme. (By the way, I still think the Real Dark Matter theme sounds terrible on the Animal Friends.)
  • The Guest Star Kirby glitch and the credits T-pose glitch have been fixed.
  • Just like last time, there are additional pictures in the Gallery with the new Dream Friends in them.

In the meantime, the Kirby Star Allies channel hasn't spouted additional lore since (despite being on their 10th episode) and the closest the concept art has to giving out lore is the 8 zillion rejected designs for Driblee and Floaty the Cell Core (IMO).
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