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[SNES] Kirby Super Star - "King Dedede's Theme" by ThatHiddenCharacter

Started by Zeta, April 19, 2017, 04:51:20 PM

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Static

Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on April 29, 2017, 08:22:06 PMAre there even any others?
Hey, I'm a Kirby fan too! I just don't arrange as much for it. I do have a bunch of Kirby stuff I am working on atm though.

Anyway, about the arrangement; you asked for elaboration on the chords and reworking the accompaniment parts. So, I have an example for you to think about.

While the bassline is a perfect transcription (edited of course for playability), just having a single moving bassline and a single moving melody doesn't really to bring out the (what I think at least) brilliant harmonies of this song, particularly in the last section:

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This is what I meant about adding chord tones on some of the longer notes here. In this section, I think you really want those 7ths and 9ths to shine through, and adding them to those notes is a good option. (Feel free to use this version of this section in your sheet btw)
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It's always important to think about making an arrangement, not just a transcription. Think about how you want parts to sound when you actually play them, and maybe try playing this sheet yourself if you have a keyboard or piano readily available. A big part of arranging is experimenting with different ways to achieve the sound you want. While this sheet is perfect from a transcription viewpoint and almost ready to be accepted, I think that creativity and experimentation is what it really needs to get to that next level.

So, I encourage you to try to think of ways to make this arrangement more interesting and fun to play.

ThatHiddenCharacter

I didn't know that creativity was that big a role. I thought I was supposed to transcribe. Well, that makes things a lot different now. I do have a keyboard, but I only recently started piano lessons and I'm not very good at playing. I'll work on that stuff some more. Thanks!
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Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on May 11, 2017, 05:41:52 PMI didn't know that creativity was that big a role. I thought I was supposed to transcribe. Well, that makes things a lot different now. I do have a keyboard, but I only recently started piano lessons and I'm not very good at playing. I'll work on that stuff some more. Thanks!

Creativity is important, but remember: don't go overboard. We don't want a remixes or anything, just something that works better for piano vs a bunch of midi instruments.

It's really a sheet-by-sheet basis. Sometimes transcriptions do work well. For example, a lot of Kirby's Adventure stuff is like this. But for sheets like this one for example, you want to be thinking a little more about how you want it to sound when played on a piano.

ThatHiddenCharacter

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Well, I updated the files with some more stuff. It's better, but I don't know if it's enough. I guess I'll find out.

EDIT: Noticed some format issues and fixed them. Files updated again.
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AmpharosAndy

Two things:

Bars 13-20 RH I can only hear the melody + one harmony note not two, which is what you have written.

The slurs (great name for a band) get a bit messy towards the end. It leaves me unsure as to what they are expressing.
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Static

I actually don't disagree with adding some extra notes to bars 13-20, it makes the sheet a lot less bland.
With that said, the added notes should correspond with the correct chords (in this case Cm, Cm7/Bb, Ab, G), and they currently aren't.

I combed through this sheet again and fixed the harmonies and a couple other things, so feel free to use these updated files:

[MID] [MUS] [MUSX] [PDF]

ThatHiddenCharacter

Coolio. Thanks for the help, Static! The files have been updated.
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LeviR.star

Don't you hear the high notes in-between sections of the melody? I thought you could maybe include those.
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Maelstrom

Eh, they're left out for simplicity.

2 final things:
-Remove the Abs in the RH in m17. It will remove the weird sound that's going on now and make it more consistent with m19
-m29 b4-m30 b2 - Make all the RH notes 3rds.

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Maelstrom

Ok, now something wonky happened in the PDF. Idk about the .mus, because I can't look at it right now.
The piano, crescendo, and forte should all be in line in m1-2
m14  rh b3.5 - unflip the 8th notes.
m17 - You were supposed to remove the 2nd on the off-beat, not the 3rd on the on beat.
m21 - the forte is colliding with the stems.
move the first system on pg 2 down a hair to give the title some breathing room
30 RH b2 - remove the C
m36 (last measure) forte is colliding.

Static

I think the files that were edited and resubmitted were older versions, so I went ahead and updated the files with the new formatting from before, along with all the previous changes.

ThatHiddenCharacter

Quote from: Static on June 05, 2017, 02:21:32 PMI think the files that were edited and resubmitted were older versions, so I went ahead and updated the files with the new formatting from before, along with all the previous changes.
Thanks! Wait, including the things Maelstrom said? Because I can't fix some of that stuff he mentioned in Notepad.
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