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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2016, 03:21:25 AM »

I'll take the following:

D1 17 - Departure
D2 02 - Get Master Sword
D2 16 - Zelda's Awakening
D2 35 - Wind Temple

These should keep me preoccupied for the whole time of this project. :)
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2016, 04:06:34 AM »

A worthy attempt, but simple is always better.

I put my revisions on another grand staff under the original.

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Actually, that's what I originally had. I got the current idea from Olimar (through Latios). I believe that the way I had it is better. It puts the melody on the on-beats instead of the off-beats and I feel it is correct, simple or not.
Also, the changes you made with the staff/clefs etc. don't account for all the voice incorporations and it doesn't make it that much easier.
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2016, 04:45:46 AM »

Double post.

Try and think less about note combinations and more about the underlying theory. For example having a tonic diminished chord in a minor key (or even a major key) given the context, just doesn't make sense. But if you look past the repeated chords and look at it a bit more horizontally and in the context of voice leading, then you'll see that it's just a chromatic neighbour note. Look for elements of theory and let that guide you, not individual notes.
Ah, makes sense.

Also in the middle of the 2nd or 3rd line on page 2 (I forgot where, I'm on my phone) where the bass note changes from E flat to E natural on the bar line, a courtesy accidental would help.
Sweet. I'll go ahead and update that asap.


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Hoo boy, that took a lot longer than I thought it would. (Those chords at the end were awful to arrange, I tell you; they didn't have any pattern as to what notes were and weren't included.) A few concerns of mine:

  • It'd be nice if someone could check/correct my enharmonic spellings, because I'm unsure for most of them.
  • I'd also like some feedback on my pedal markings (mainly m25 and m26) since I'm not sure whether to hold it the whole measure or change it in between. I'm also not sure whether or not I should be including the pedal at all at m33+ since it blurs the low notes.
Yo, LOVE THIS SONG. You've got a beautiful arrangement here!

Couple of things:
- M. 1-16 (LH): The first notes of each of these seem to have more force than the others. Maybe you could accent them.
- M. 17-21 (LH): You're missing the added octave. For example:

- M. 22 (LH): There is an Eb in there you're missing.
- M. 17-24 (LH): Same as M. 1-16. Seems like some of these notes are almost being pounded; that's how accented they are, especially the eighth notes on beat 4 of M. 23.

But yeah. I love it! I am gonna add this song to my three-ring binder for sure. :P
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2016, 04:51:34 AM »

I agree with where on the beat mlf had it before, but maybe I don't get this because I completely disagree:
Also, the changes you made with the staff/clefs etc. don't account for all the voice incorporations and it doesn't make it that much easier.

How about a compromise?

[MUS]
The way Brassman organized the ostinato was worlds easier to read than the monotony that was there before, but I agree with mlf that it sounds more like down beats than constant syncopation.
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2016, 05:00:21 AM »

That works.
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2016, 05:06:23 AM »

Deku is probably gonna call me out on this, but change 26 to a Db. G minor -> Gdim -> F# dim 7 -> G minor makes sense and I don't care about no neighboring chromatics.
Source material: Bar 31
i - V/V - viio7 - i

Just because the RH twiddles includes some material which echoes LoZ underground and obscures the harmonies a bit, doesn't change that the melody screams A major.
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2016, 05:20:15 AM »

i was just testing you quick change it back to an A# msf
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2016, 05:26:35 AM »

Menu Select - Sebastian:
- The pianist will use pedal how they feel like it, so do you really need to write 'pedal recommended'? It just sounds odd.
- Any reason you put the bass note A up an octave halfway through bar 2?
- You've already marked at the beginning that the bottom two staves are for the LH so why have the lines every bar or so? It's redundant.
- Make sure the 16th rests are on spaces, not on lines.
- Maybe it's just me but the way you've written the LH with the cross staffing and all that looks a bit...all over the place? I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say here but I'm sure there's a solution out there that's a bit easier to read. Now that I think about it, none of that cross staffing is necessary. Stick the whole counter melody in the middle staff. It only goes down 2 ledger lines in treble clef, and down 3 ledger lines for an F in one spot which is certainly not hard. When you've got cross staffing going down to the bass clef, but it's a ledger line or 2 above, it doesn't make sense.


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« Last Edit: December 31, 2016, 05:31:34 AM by Deku Trombonist »
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2016, 05:33:40 AM »

Ballad of Gales - Olimar
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2016, 06:01:30 AM »

Inside Forest Haven - Lkjhgfdsa_77:
It's got quite a few transcription errors in the marimba part, particularly in the harmonies, so go over those with a fine tooth comb. I can take a look sometime, but I don't have the time right now.
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2016, 06:28:33 PM »

I agree with where on the beat mlf had it before, but maybe I don't get this because I completely disagree:
How about a compromise?

[MUS]
The way Brassman organized the ostinato was worlds easier to read than the monotony that was there before, but I agree with mlf that it sounds more like down beats than constant syncopation.

Hmm, okay. I'm here to help somewhat, haha.
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2016, 07:11:12 PM »

Ohoho well hello there brassman
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2016, 07:44:01 PM »

Yo.

I'm on break and FINALLY have time to work on stuff.
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2016, 08:25:49 PM »

Farewell Hyrule King (same link)

- M. 1-16 (LH): The first notes of each of these seem to have more force than the others. Maybe you could accent them.

Done. Also accented some of the notes in Layer 1 since sometimes they're equally forceful.

- M. 17-21 (LH): You're missing the added octave. For example:


Must've missed them the first time through. Added. (With the exception of m18 because I still don't hear it there.)

- M. 22 (LH): There is an Eb in there you're missing.

It's still difficult for me to hear, but I think you're right. Added.

- M. 17-24 (LH): Same as M. 1-16. Seems like some of these notes are almost being pounded; that's how accented they are, especially the eighth notes on beat 4 of M. 23.

Instead of adding accents, I changed the mezzo forte to a forte in m19-20 since those two measures seem to be particularly strong. I think the crescendo is good enough for m21-23, but I did add accents on the two eighth notes in m23.

But yeah. I love it! I am gonna add this song to my three-ring binder for sure. :P

Thanks! ^.^

(I also played around a bit more in the second half, changing the pedal markings in m27, m29, and m31, and changing the dynamics to be stronger.)
« Last Edit: December 31, 2016, 08:28:29 PM by mastersuperfan »
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Re: The Official Wind Waker Project
« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2016, 09:17:46 PM »

Menu Select - Sebastian:
- The pianist will use pedal how they feel like it, so do you really need to write 'pedal recommended'? It just sounds odd.
I was hoping to add some pedal marking in there. I thought this sounded decent. I can edit in a different one.

Menu Select - Sebastian:
- Any reason you put the bass note A up an octave halfway through bar 2?
That's the harp.

Menu Select - Sebastian:
- You've already marked at the beginning that the bottom two staves are for the LH so why have the lines every bar or so? It's redundant.
Ok. Fixed.

Menu Select - Sebastian:
- Make sure the 16th rests are on spaces, not on lines.
Ok. Fixed.

Menu Select - Sebastian:
- Maybe it's just me but the way you've written the LH with the cross staffing and all that looks a bit...all over the place? I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say here but I'm sure there's a solution out there that's a bit easier to read. Now that I think about it, none of that cross staffing is necessary. Stick the whole counter melody in the middle staff. It only goes down 2 ledger lines in treble clef, and down 3 ledger lines for an F in one spot which is certainly not hard. When you've got cross staffing going down to the bass clef, but it's a ledger line or 2 above, it doesn't make sense.
I mean, personally, I don't find it hard to read, but that's just me. I don't know about anyone else. I could go ahead and edit it so that it's all on the middle staff. It doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

Done. Also accented some of the notes in Layer 1 since sometimes they're equally forceful.
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Farewell Hyrule King (same link)
Must've missed them the first time through. Added. (With the exception of m18 because I still don't hear it there.)
It's still difficult for me to hear, but I think you're right. Added.
Awesome.

Instead of adding accents, I changed the mezzo forte to a forte in m19-20 since those two measures seem to be particularly strong. I think the crescendo is good enough for m21-23, but I did add accents on the two eighth notes in m23.
That works! Great work.

(I also played around a bit more in the second half, changing the pedal markings in m27, m29, and m31, and changing the dynamics to be stronger.)
Sweet. Looks great.

I'm here to help somewhat, haha.
Awesome! It's great to have you back.
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