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Re: ThatHiddenCharacter Arrangement - Super Mario World Medley
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2016, 01:09:26 AM »

Cool! Looking forward to it.
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Re: ThatHiddenCharacter Arrangement - Super Mario World Medley
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2016, 01:32:26 AM »

I think i've got it, just gotta transfer it over to finale. I might've overdone the accents.
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Re: ThatHiddenCharacter Arrangement - Super Mario World Medley
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2017, 11:07:47 PM »

I've fixed up the arrangement, but I can't get the formatting done right. I can get it fine in finale, but when I transfer it to musescore to export a pdf, it is completely messed up in a way that I can not fix. Can anyone fix the formatting problems for me?
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Re: ThatHiddenCharacter's Arrangements (Super Mario World Medley)
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2017, 09:27:19 PM »

I didn't fix the formatting problems, but I did give feedback:

In general, there are spots where you have voices that belong in a different octave (mostly higher) as well as missing harmonies and different inversions. I didn’t feel like going through everything, but I did the first 4 measures for you (at least the RH part). Also, to be more specific, there’s a harmony part starting at m9 that would be more interesting/musically diverse as opposed to just octaves. Make sure you really pay attention to detail. This ranges under pretty much everything, including note lengths and articulation (which still needs to be adjusted in general spots)

Oh and I almost forgot to mention, but you should clean up the rests like in m2 (and that one spot around the "star" section where the notes aren't properly beamed). And the tie in the LH m2 might not be necessary

I also noticed that beat 2.5 in m22/24 should be B and D instead of an A and D. Idk if that was just a mistake, or if you just copied it without checking to see if there was a difference (if it’s the latter, then you should watch out for those cases). Other things you should look out for are patterns and chords. If you can recognize something, then it’ll be much easier to write down and verify. For example, the notes in m21 are going down chromatically, yet you didn’t fully go down a half step on each lower note (they are also wrong - beat 3 should be an E and C# instead of E and C nat)

Two more things: firstly, since this is a medley, you should consider writing the name of the songs down when they show up on the sheet (although you might have difficulties with doing that with the expression tool so that it would stick to the measure as opposed to the text tool); secondly, I think you should invert the off-beat chords starting at m27 so that it doesn’t “overlap” with the bass notes. I personally think it would sound better if you avoided situations where the down beats end up repeating like so:


Overall, not too shabby! It's pretty good for your first attempt
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Re: ThatHiddenCharacter's Arrangements (Super Mario World Medley)
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2017, 04:20:37 AM »

This is just an xml import from musescore to finale. This is only for note purposes, I know that the aesthetics are way off. I'm having an extremely hard time with harmonies, so I'd like to know if the harmonies I put are as bad as I think they are.
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Re: ThatHiddenCharacter's Arrangements (Super Mario World Medley)
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2017, 08:06:30 PM »

I've updated the first post to be more like a personal arrangement thread should be. I have three arrangements currently. Feedback is greatly appreciated.
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Since this my first really official post for arrangements, I'm editing this one to include videos for every arrangement before Mr. L, Green Thunder. Here's the list: Super Mario World Medley, Course Clear, Now You've Done It, and Tough Enemy. The MUS for the song is under the video and I always list the songs in the order of the videos from top to bottom.

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Newest song! Yes, the one, the only, Mr. L, Green Thunder! My theme! Here's a YouTube video because I probably should've already been doing that.

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Hey, nice to see another SPM arrangement on here! A few suggestions:

- The key is Eb minor (6 flats), so you should change that (just change the key, the notes are all the same). I'd recommend using the tonic as a basis for keys in the future rather than accidentals.
- In measure 25, the rhythm should be notated with a triplet rather than 16ths.
- Starting at measure 5, there's a cool walking bassline that I think you should include instead of the current one. It's especially prominent in measures 21-23.
- Maybe include more harmonies instead of just the bass and melody?

Good work overall!
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- The key is Eb minor
Are you sure about that? Before I update the file here, I want to make sure because there are Fb, but no Fn. I'm pretty sure it's in Ab minor.
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The Fb is an accidental, in this case a flat 2 scale degree. This is really common in a lot of songs. When deciding what to put as the key of a song, do not look at the accidentals, but listen for where the melody and chords resolve. If you listen to the song and play an Eb repeatedly on a piano in the background, you'll find that it fits with the entire song. If you analyze the song harmonically, you'll also find that Ebm is a much better choice. Just remember to keep in mind, accidentals do not always determine the key; it's all about the harmony.

As a little example, consider my arrangement of Rightside Down Galaxy from Super Mario Galaxy 2. The piece is filled with accidentals all over the place, but I didn't notate it in Ebb Major or something weird like that because the tonic is Ab and the tonality is major, so I chose Ab Major. While that song is a lot more weird in terms of harmony, it's the same idea here.

Long story short, yes, it's Eb minor.
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Definitely Eb minor. It's better to identify the key signature based on the tonic (what note does the music center around?) and not the accidentals that are present.

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Then the file has been updated with the first draft including walking bassline. Accuracy unlikely, it was very hard to distinguish.
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