TWG LXXXIV Postgame

[mikey]

Role reveal:
White-Dude
Blue-Dudeman
Black-BDS
Red-Brawler
Green-maelstrom

Game log:
Night 1- nothing happens.
Day 1- Dude is lynched.  Dude was white.
Night 2- Maelstrom seers Dudeman blue.  Dudeman uses his Power Steal targeting Brawler.  Dudeman steals black team's vigi.  Brawler uses his charismatic power.  Brawler dies.  Brawler's Revenge Shot power becomes active.  Dudeman dies.

Thoughts:
Brawler was on point with his dude lynch, that's for sure.
Was surprised the information powers weren't used night 1.
As far as balance goes maybe the revenge kill is a little broken, but if a black/green player had died the game would have ended in another player's favor.  Other than that I think changes I could have made would be to allow dead players to use powers.  GG everyone!

[ThatGamer]

Is this signup for the next round? I'm in!

[mikey]

TWC+Dude already determined you weren't allowed into the next game.  I'd recommend reading up on the rules first anyway before you play.
And no, this is the postgame.  That's why I called it the postgame

[ThatGamer]

Who is TWC, and why am i not allowed to play? 

[mikey]

you broke the rules of TWG.  IIRC I actually broke the rule as well and wasn't allowed to play.

[ThatGamer]

Ah, darn. I will join 86 then! Thanks Noc!

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Wait... how did the game end?

[mikey]

Red's enemies- White and Blue- both died

[BlackDragonSlayer]

But Brawler was dead, and two players were still alive...?

[Maelstrom]

Idk
Makes no sense.

[mikey]

The rules clearly said:
The game ends when a team's enemies have died.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

But it also said this:

A team wins when a team's enemies have been eliminated.  More than one team may win.

Granted, the outcome would have been essentially random anyway, given the number of players remaining.

[mikey]

Granted, the outcome would have been essentially random anyway, given the number of players remaining.

picture this:  Had you died and nobody else, then you all voted for dudeman the following day, both the red team and the green team would have won at once.  I guess it's not as easy to understand if you're not as familiar with the color pie mechanism of magic.

[Brawler4Ever]

1. White-  Enemies are Black and Red.  White's powers are Guardian and Exile.
2.Blue- Enemies are Red and Green.  Blue's powers are Power Steal and Roleblock.
3.Black- Enemies are White and Green.  Black's powers are Vigi and Revive.
4.Red- Enemies are White and Blue.  Red's powers are Revenge Kill and Charisma Boost.
5.Green- Enemies are Blue and Black.  Green's powers are Coroner and Seering.

Players-
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Dudeman
3. Brawler4Ever
4. Maelstrom
5. Dude
The game has ended!  Red team wins!  Congratulations brawler4ever!

I was red. My targets were blue and white. All three of those colors died. Of all of the possible combinations allowing for a victory, only white and blue was met (aka mine). Nobody had a victory condition for both red and blue to be dead, or for red and white. If they had, they would have also won.

As for the Dude lynch, it was almost completely random. I assumed that Dude would be least likely to defend himself by the end of the phase, so it wouldn't draw attention to the fact that I was pushing the game forward, and make myself a more likely target.

It's funny how neither Dudeman nor I made a specific action to kill eachother, but we both died anyway.

And of course, this was all due to my 1337 skillz.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

I was red. My targets were blue and white. All three of those colors died. Of all of the possible combinations allowing for a victory, only white and blue was met (aka mine). Nobody had a victory condition for both red and blue to be dead, or for red and white. If they had, they would have also won.

My question is/was why that ended the game, given that:
1: You died at the same time.
2: There were still players alive who had victory conditions that could have reasonably been fulfilled.
That's unusual for a game of this nature, and it would have been helpful if such a situation would have been clarified beforehand.