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Onion's Arrangements
« on: May 14, 2013, 03:05:25 AM »

    Hi there, and welcome! Please enjoy browsing these sheets.
    Hopefully I'll learn in time through experience and constructive criticism. :)

    Thanks for stopping by!

[Link to all of my accepted NSM arrangements]


[SNES] Chrono Trigger

Underground Sewer                        [MUS]  Youtube  Complete *new*


[GBA] Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II

Note: I'm not sure about the composer, as some tracks may have been originally created by B. Faulconer for the anime.

Goku's Home[MUS]  Youtube  Complete
Master Roshi's Island                           ----In Progress
Sparring Arena[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Trunks' Theme[MUS]YoutubeComplete


[3DS] Fantasy Life

Happy Life (Duet)                      --   --   In Progress


[GBA] Fire Emblem

Girl of the Plains - Lyn's Theme     [MUS]  [MUSX]  Youtube  Complete *new*


[3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening

But, Frederick, It's Nearly Dark!              [MUS]  Youtube  Complete
There are better places to take a nap
than on the ground you know.
[MUS]YoutubeComplete


[GBA] Golden Sun

Battle! [Non-Adept]On Site!
Colosso Starts!On Site!
Enemy Appearance[MUS]  Youtube  Complete
Having Fun----In Progress
Mysterious Caves[MUS]YoutubeComplete
OrientalOn Site!
Set Sail! Through The Karagol SeaOn Site!
Fanfares CollectionOn Site!
The Elemental Stars (Replacement)    On Site!


[GBA] Golden Sun: The Lost Age

Alhafra[MUS]  Youtube  Complete
Ankohl RuinsOn Site!
Apojii IslandsOn Site!
Battle! [Agatio & Karst]              [MUS]YoutubeComplete
Battle! [Dragons][MUS]YoutubeComplete
Festival in Izumo[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Freezing Kalt[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Izumo in Despair[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Kandorean Temple[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Scaling Mountains[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Sorrow and Regret[MUS]YoutubeComplete
The Sea of Time[MUS]YoutubeComplete


[NDS] Golden Sun: Dark Dawn

Apollo AscentOn Site!
Champa CampOn Site!
Festive Town[MUS]  Youtube  Complete
Kaocho[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Kolima (Revitalised)On Site!
Passaj (Sad)On Site!
Saha (or Konpa Gate)                     [MUS]YoutubeComplete
Sveta's Pain[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Tanglewood[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Te Rya Village[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Village ThemeOn Site!


[PC] Heroes of Might & Magic III

Stronghold Theme                      [MUS]  Youtube  Complete
Waiting Theme 2[MUS]YoutubeComplete


[Wii] Kirby's Epic Yarn

Green Greens                             [MUS]  Youtube  Complete
World 3: Treat Land[MUS]YoutubeComplete


[GBA] The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap

Peace Returns                                    On Site!


[GBA] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

Departure[MUS]  Youtube  Complete
Get Master Sword[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Wind Temple[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Zelda's Awakening                      [MUS]YoutubeComplete


[GBA] Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga

Peach Misfortune                                 On Site!


[NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

Detention Center ~ Jailer's Elegy[MUS]  Youtube  Complete
Ema Skye[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Investigation ~ Core 2001[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Investigation ~ Opening 2001[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Jake Marshall ~ A Detective Without a Desert[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution         [MUS][MUSX]YoutubeComplete *new*
Reminiscence ~ DL-6 Case[MUS]YoutubeComplete


[NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice for All

Announce the Truth 2002[MUS]    Youtube  Complete
Great Revival ~ Miles Edgeworth[MUS][MUSX]YoutubeComplete *new*
Investigation ~ Core 2002[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Investigation ~ Opening 2002           [MUS][MUSX]  YoutubeComplete
More Happy People[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Pursuit ~ Questioned[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Shelly de Killer[MUS][MUSX]YoutubeComplete *new*


[NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations

Detention Center ~ Jailer's Elegy      [MUS]  [MUSX]  Youtube  Complete *new*


[NDS] Pokémon Diamond/Pearl

Oreburgh Gate[MUS]  Youtube  Complete
You're a Jackpot Winner!           [MUS]YoutubeComplete
You're a Winner![MUS]YoutubeComplete


[GBA] Riviera: The Promised Land

Elegant Memories                      [MUS]  Youtube  Complete
Encounter![MUS]YoutubeComplete
Fierce Fight![MUS]YoutubeComplete
Nelde[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Overture[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Picnic[MUS]YoutubeComplete


[PC] Runescape

All's Fairy in Love and War             [MUS]  Youtube  Complete
Food for Thought[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Nether Realm[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Norse Code[MUS]YoutubeComplete
Scape Cave[MUS]  YoutubeComplete


[PS2] Shadow of the Colossus

The Farthest Land                      --   --   In Progress
Wander's Death[MUS]YoutubeComplete


[PC] Touhou 10.5: Scarlet Weather Rhapsody

Dancing Water Spray                  [MUS]  Youtube  Complete


[PS] Valkyrie Profile

Valhalla                                       [MUS]  Youtube  Complete
When a Person Changes[MUS]YoutubeComplete


[PS] Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria

Overture to the Destiny[MUS]  Youtube  Complete
The Chance That Becomes an Inevitability    [MUS]  [MUSX]  Youtube  Complete



Other

Simplified Arrangements (Legend of Zelda):
Minuet of Forest - [PDF]
Serenade of Water - [PDF]
Song of Storms - [PDF #1] [PDF #2]

Anime OSTs that I have arranged songs from:
Code Geass       InuYashaKyoukai no Rin-ne
Ranma 1/2Sword Art OnlineThe Legend of Korra
Yu-Gi-Oh!Cardcaptor Sakura     etc.

Stop on by my Youtube channel if you'd like, I sometimes post my arrangements there. :)[/list]
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Re: Onion's Arrangements
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 04:34:58 AM »

Hi Onion! Welcome to NSM, and thank you for arranging the GSDD OST, one of my favorite games :D

The Passaj arrangement is kinda slow compared to the original, and you skipped some parts. But I really like the other arrangements :)

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Re: Onion's Arrangements
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 05:35:05 AM »

Welcome Onionleaf!

I don't know these songs so I'll just give you some tips on making your sheets cleaner.

First of all, great job on formatting! Your quality level is exceptional for new folk.
So without further ado, let's jump in:

1) Passaj
-"Pno." abbreviation at the beginning of all staff systems (except the first of course) should not be there. Removing it may or may not be possible depending on which version of Finale you have.
-You can't have a dotted quarter note on the off-beat of the second beat. Any such case should be written as an eighth tied to a quarter. This appears for the first time in the right hand of measure 8.
-Don't forget a double bar line for the key change. (Measure 9)

2) Champa Camp
-"Pno." abbreviation at the beginning of all staff systems (except the first of course) should not be there. Removing it may or may not be possible depending on which version of Finale you have.
-"Lightly" note should be written to the left of the tempo marking.
-Second beat, right hand should be a dotted eighth as opposed to a 16th tied to an eighth.
-As before, you can't have a dotted quarter note on the off-beat of the second beat. Any such case should be written as an eighth tied to a quarter.
-Don't forget double bar lines for key changes.
-Your url is off: http://www.ninsheetm.us/

3) Festive Town
-Left hand, measure 25 onwards has some notes being tied into the next measure. I'm going to ask if that's necessary. If not, take them out. If they are, it's fine.
-"Pno." abbreviation here too.
-Don't forget double bar lines for key changes.
-Messed up the url again. :P http://www.ninsheetm.us/
-All rhythm groupings are perfect though. Way to go!

Overall, very impressive for first arrangements. Well done.
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Re: Onion's Arrangements
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 11:26:08 AM »

Thank you for the welcomes! :D

@CLBGM: Glad to hear you also enjoyed the game! I was actually a little confused at first by your comment on the Passaj piece, but then realised that you may have been talking about the second version of the town's theme? The track that I arranged is played earlier in the game and has a sadder and slower melody (b/c of the change to a minor key) and was much easier to arrange because the two parts divided perfectly into both hands. ;)

@JDMEK5: Wow is all I can say! Thank you so much for taking the time to go through the three sheets. Not everyone would want to use some of their leisure time to help fix a random person's arrangements, though I suppose that is what goes on around here! I understand the theory now behind all the points that you've made, so that is a good start, hehe.
I was recently working on a fourth piece that was a bit more dramatic and fast-paced, but the note groupings and rhythm confused me in so many places. You (or somebody else) are probably going to poke me for neglecting all the fine-but-still-very-important details. I have never had much experience with 12/8 time, so I still need to re-organise all the notes. *sigh*

Apollo Ascent
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Re: Onion's Arrangements [Golden Sun]
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 05:38:39 AM »

Heya. Really great job on the sheets. It's always incredible to see a fellow Golden Sun fan around these parts.

Here's my take on "Apoji Islands" from back in the day. NSM asked me notate the rhythm that way (doesn't it look awful?). I'd definitely recommend replacing the trills with the tremolos. Sakuraba-san is mimicking Caribbean marimba/vibraphone playing. Feel free to copy and paste, then upload your own. Obviously mine was never accepted haha.

Really nice job with Kandorean Temple! The only slight suggestion I would make is layering the piece with dynamics. Since there's about 4 layers of music occurring at the same time, some are very clearly in the foreground while some are subdued. I would notate this with dynamics every time a line occurs. Also when a line changes hands such as measure 14 to 15, I would draw a line between the two, showing that the line simply moved to another hand.

Had to check out just one more. Very good job with Apollo's Ascent! Quick music theory lesson. Our system of chords are based on triads, 3 notes separated by a note in between. A C major chord would be C E G, as there is space for 2 notes (D and F) in between the three. You also only use the same accidental (sharps, flats) in each triad. 95% of the music on this site is based on triads. So from measure 17 for a bit onwards, the first chord should be F# A C# instead of Db F# A. 25-28 is just as keyless, where the motion is based not on functioning triads but common tone related triads (ignore this, or message me. but really probably ignore). Whereas the chord in measure 25 is Ab Major, m. 26 should be E G# B instead of E Ab B.
Also use a D# instead of an Eb in measure 4. Easiest way to explain this is that you don't want two notes with the same letter name with different accidentals in the same measure. There's a more complicated explanation, but this should hold for now (again, message if for some reason this interests you).

Great job! Are these your first arrangements?
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Re: Onion's Arrangements [Golden Sun]
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2013, 09:49:13 PM »

Had to check out just one more. Very good job with Apollo's Ascent! Quick music theory lesson. Our system of chords are based on triads, 3 notes separated by a note in between. A C major chord would be C E G, as there is space for 2 notes (D and F) in between the three. You also only use the same accidental (sharps, flats) in each triad. 95% of the music on this site is based on triads. So from measure 17 for a bit onwards, the first chord should be F# A C# instead of Db F# A. 25-28 is just as keyless, where the motion is based not on functioning triads but common tone related triads (ignore this, or message me. but really probably ignore). Whereas the chord in measure 25 is Ab Major, m. 26 should be E G# B instead of E Ab B.
I want to add that from measure#17 and to the end the song modulates quite a bit. In actuality you have the wrong key all the way from measure#17 and through the end. At measure#25 you do have a key change, but that is unfortunately wrong too.
Here are some corrections:
-The song starts off in Eminor of course, so that is right.
-At measure#17 it goes into F#minor. Don't worry about the F chord, this is just subdominant tritone substitution, so this doesn't affect the key.
-Then, at measure#19 it goes into Gminor.
-Then, at measure#21 it appears to me (I haven't heard the original) like it goes back to F#minor again.
-And just like how it changed into Gminor earlier, it does so at measure#23 as well.
-At measure#25, or where the repeat bars start rather, it goes to Fminor, which has four flats, not three. Don't worry about the E chord, it's just subdominant tritone substitution just like earlier.

And that's it:)
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Re: Onion's Arrangements [Golden Sun]
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2013, 01:41:56 PM »

@Thomas: Hiya, first off thank you for stopping by and lending a hand, always greatly appreciated. :)
I did change the trills to tremolos for Apojii Islands (I had no idea Finale even had that feature, I certainly learned something new today!) but all the ties/note groupings in your version confused me, lol.

Wonderful suggestion for "Kandorean Temple" (the whole piece is pretty much compiled out of four notes, it does need some differentiation between the voices). I haven't had a lot of experience with Finale (but I did use the NotePad version for a long time prior to this year), so I don't know if it is possible to add dynamics to different layers, but I'll try work something out, at least visually.

Triads.. oh dear, of course I should've know that, and the D# (and other accidentals) probably has to do with harmonic/melodic minors, right?

And to answer your last question, these are not my very first arrangements, though I only started arranging from the beginning of this year (my first ones were pretty horrible ^^").

@Jompa: Wow, thank you for the list! So many modulations might scare the pianist, but it looks like they all fit well. :) Every point that I read made me think "Ah, that's right.." -- in the back of my mind, I realise that I should be able to see what I have done wrong, but it's so very difficult when you've had little practice with music theory.

Thank you all again! I tend to add new arrangements like a ninja, so I definitely did not expect any responses, haha. I'll keep revising the ones that I have uploaded and maybe find some of those hidden mistakes.
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Re: Onion's Arrangements [Golden Sun]
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2013, 06:48:35 AM »

NSM moderators at the time asked me to use that notation so it would get uploaded to the site. I too find it disturbing haha. Never made it. Glad you learned something!

Back to Ascent:
I wouldn't even use key in those sections that "modulate." They're common-tone related chords, not linked together by key. Each chord shares a note in common with the previous. Not diatonically based. Jompa's suggestion of key changes works in a diatonic context where scale degrees function to give motion towards a finale or resting point. However, with common-tone chords, this motion is offset. Common-tone related chords have been used as early as Beethoven to convey a sense of motion harmonically rather than melodically. With the past century's minimalism, common-tone chords brought a new sense of stability that tonality can not offer. Motion through common-tone chords create a harmonic structure that has no beginning or end. Can move freely among triads. See John Adams, Phillip Glass.

General overall:
I went back and listened to everything. There's a reason I picked Apollo's Ascent to look at your arrangements. Definitely the most complex harmonic structure of the soundtrack. Or so I thought. Tanglewood has some stuff too. He crafts it well.
In your 3/4 arrangements, sometimes you use a quarter note tied to eighth. It's okay to use a dotted quarter, then have an eighth tied to quarter.
When using crescendos and decrescendos, it's always a good idea to give a definite starting dynamic and ending dynamic. I got confused a few times reading your arrangement.
When your beams from multiple layers overlap, there's options to flip the beam direction if your finale is high enough. Definitely cleans up the sheet a ton. You want to strive for no collisions of any sort in your published arrangement.

All done. Sounds great. Please keep up the good work. Message me whenever you add more Golden Sun stuff ;)
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Re: Onion's Arrangements
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2015, 12:39:13 PM »

I send this thread back from the Graveyard! And put it into Defence mode j/k :P
Well, I finally took the time to update my list of arrangements (which took more work that I thought it would *phew*), please have a look... whenever, no rush. :) The games that I pick are nothing as popular as Pokémon or Undertale, but I hope they're still of interest.
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Re: Onion's Arrangements
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2015, 12:44:51 PM »

That's a TON of new stuff! Normally I like to just announce stuff 1 at a time and spread it out over the week, since I figure it makes it easier to digest. I'm not even sure where to start looking here, haha! (Maybe Runescape, can't go wrong with that)
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2015, 07:50:43 AM »

Oops, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to give anyone an upset stomach... I simply wanted to list everything that has been completed since the last time I was here. I obviously don't expect for any one person to look through all of them; just thought I'd add *new* tags in case those forumers who have passed through in 2013 will know which ones are the older arrangements. I would never ever be able to complete so many arrangements in a short time-frame, so such a large update is a one-time thing. ^^
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2015, 11:08:20 AM »

Howdy! Just popped in to say that I went through all my sheets, found Youtube videos for them and fixed up any mistakes that I found in the process. I wanted to get all my ducks in a row before submitting anything. It would be great to see some of my older sheets uploaded to the site, so here it goes! I think I'll just concentrate on four sheets at one time and once they are all completed, I'll pick another four sheets to fix up.

Please let me know if the following sheets can be improved in some way, and I'll start submitting them asap. :)

[NDS] Golden Sun: Dark Dawn
Passaj (Sad) - [MUS] - Youtube
Apollo Ascent - [MUS] - Youtube
Champa Camp - [MUS] - Youtube
Sveta's Pain - [MUS] - Youtube (Should I try adding "echo notes", or will it just clutter up the sheet?)
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2015, 02:37:18 AM »

I'm super-excited you brought your thread back, and I wish I'd seen it sooner! I have spent a lot of time listening to these soundtracks, so I'm so happy to see more Golden Sun music!

I always like echo notes! In "Sveta's Pain", you might show the echo notes you did include (starting in m. 18) in a smaller extra layer. Right now, they don't look much like echoes.

Thank you for these great arrangements!
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2016, 09:50:05 AM »

Thank you so much for your kind words! (Took me long enough to reply, sheesh!) I'm glad you liked listening to these soundtracks. :) Golden Sun sheets was what brought me to this site, so it's great that I'm able to give back to NSM even more Golden Sun arrangements.
I'll have a look into possibly adding echo notes in a different layer some time this week. Once I tinker around with that, I'll ask for some feedback to make sure that I did it correctly.

Quick update: I've completed another sheet yesterday from the Riviera soundtrack. (If you played this J-RPG, kudos to you! I really enjoyed it :) ) This is the first time I've attempted arranging a battle theme, so the're most likely mistakes to find and passages to improve.

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2016, 02:17:28 AM »

*Bump!*

Came back from vacation to find that I need to do some serious spring cleaning - phew, all done! *wipes off sweat* Hopefully my arrangements list is now easier to read and navigate through. (The pretty-ful formats that I've seen in this forum inspired me to update my own list, so a big thanks to those members!)

I added 4 new arrangements, with more to come hopefully soon-ish. I want to focus on the Golden Sun soundtracks for the time being - it would be so awesome to see the NSM collection for this game series fully completed. :D
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