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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1050 on: March 24, 2017, 04:35:19 AM »

Definitely G Major, and I would put the modulation at 0:35 as well (that's Bb Major).
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1051 on: March 24, 2017, 04:36:45 AM »

^G to Bb is right. The F naturals you see are from the use of mixolydian mode.
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1052 on: March 24, 2017, 05:28:49 AM »

Ah right, thank you both!
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1053 on: March 28, 2017, 07:57:55 AM »


It's the 2300 AD background track from Chrono Trigger! :) I don't intend to arrange this, but this is one of the tracks that's worthy of some thought. ^^

If you were to arrange this, what would be a nice time signature? It's not meant to be beated, but there's this fun interaction in the track - percussion parts beat every two eighths, and every long chord lasts nine eighths. Yep, that's right: nine eighths. The phrases are four chords long, with the first and third chord progressing in step to the second and fourth chords respectively. :)

So it would seem right to write it in 9/4, but that suggests compound triple meter. 4+5/4 or 5+4/4 would be ignoring the equal division of the long chords. The best option I can think of is writing in 18/8 (which doesn't really suggest that equal division either, but eh) or writing in 4/4 and making the whole thing a mess of ties. :p

Thoughts? ^^ Would be glad to hear some of them, because this track is just so worth discussing <3



oh and since i'm here: great marsh from dppt.
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i'm almost certain this is 2/2, but i have seen pretty much zero sheets on the site in 2/2. would anyone else write this in 2/2?
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1054 on: March 29, 2017, 12:16:02 AM »

I'm getting a strong C minor vibe from this. The chords go all over the place though, so I'm not entirely certain.

As far as timesig goes, if you are notating the percussion in the sheet itself, I would probably go with 9/8 and label the subdivisions as being different. Not all 9/8 songs are necessarily in triple (like this for example), so as long as you label what subdivisions you're using I think it would work nicely.

If you aren't notating the percussion parts on the sheet, then I would either do the 9/8 stuff above or, if you want, put it in 4/4 but make sure the tempo is the same.

Hope this helps a little!

Edit: About that Great Marsh one, I would personally put it in 4/4 with quarter note = around 110, but cut time would also work I think.
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1055 on: March 29, 2017, 12:52:40 AM »

Hey, thanks for the thoughts, Static! ^^ Yep, it's C natural minor with the D-flat chord added in for flavour (there's a theory term for this, neapolitan 6th i think).

I quite dig the idea of notating it in 9/8, and in a similar style to the Brubeck sheet you shared. So thanks for the sharing, yeah :)

Oh, and for great Marsh, the more I think about your idea, the more stupid cut time sounds. I'll be scoring it in 4/4, hehe~

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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1056 on: March 29, 2017, 06:25:19 PM »


I need to know what type of swing this song is before I alter the song completely.

This is what I have right now:

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Should it still be dotted eighths tied w/ sixteenths, or should it be eighth notes swung with this notation?



I have a lot of alteration to perform on this song, but this will come first.
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1057 on: March 29, 2017, 10:39:21 PM »

Swing eights, as the picture above says.
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1058 on: April 13, 2017, 05:03:44 AM »

This song is just so weird:


It's mainly the time signature for the first 14 seconds; I have no idea what to put down.

However, I do have the other time signatures down I think, in case anyone wants to check them (starting at 0:14):
12 measures 7/8 (3+2+2)
1 measure 5/8 (3+2)
1 measure 8/8 (2+3+3)
5 measures 14/8 (2+3+3+3+3)
1 measure 5/8 (2+3)
1 measure 8/8 (2+3+3)
5 measures 14/8 (2+3+3+3+3)
1 measure 5/8 (2+3)

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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1059 on: April 13, 2017, 05:23:46 AM »

This song is just so weird:


It's mainly the time signature for the first 14 seconds; I have no idea what to put down.

However, I do have the other time signatures down I think, in case anyone wants to check them (starting at 0:14):
12 measures 7/8 (3+2+2)
1 measure 5/8 (3+2)
1 measure 8/8 (2+3+3)
5 measures 14/8 (2+3+3+3+3)
1 measure 5/8 (2+3)
1 measure 8/8 (2+3+3)
5 measures 14/8 (2+3+3+3+3)
1 measure 5/8 (2+3)

Thanks!
Oddly, I find the first several seconds to be the most regularly rhythmic of the piece--from 0:00-0:12, I'm getting this:
Quarter-note pickup
2 measures of 4/4
1 measure of 3/4
4 measures of 4/4

...Though the start of the 3/4 bar isn't emphasized, the starts of the other bars are.

I lose track at approx. 0:13 (around the ascending A#-B-C# figure in the melody)--notably, I'm having a hard time finding your 7/8 bar right now.
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1060 on: April 13, 2017, 10:52:48 PM »

Hey, thanks! After listening to the song again, those times make a lot more sense to me now. I think you were pretty spot-on.
I'll try this out and keep experimenting with other possibilities. Thanks for responding!

Also, in case you were wondering, the 7/8 section starts when the bassline kicks in, although it can be a little tough to tell.
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1061 on: July 17, 2017, 05:46:01 PM »

What Key is this? Also, could someone assist me with chords here?
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1062 on: July 17, 2017, 09:13:22 PM »

D, then somewhere around the middle it switches to F, and somewhat near the end it switches to F#/Gb (it should be really obvious where that one happens).

I don't have time to help with the chords unfortunately, and they seem very tricky.
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1063 on: July 20, 2017, 01:30:05 PM »

Thanks!
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Re: What key/time signature is this song in?
« Reply #1064 on: September 21, 2017, 01:25:23 PM »

Sned hlep
need key sig and time sig for this

 and the same for this

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