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What key/time signature is this song in?

Started by The Deku Trombonist, March 24, 2013, 03:27:01 PM

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Dekkadeci

Quote from: Magic Mole on October 20, 2016, 11:21:32 AMWould someone mind telling me the key/time sig of this boi (it changes in the middle too):
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Starts in D minor, switches to F sharp minor at ~1:50, switches back to D minor at ~2:05 (good job using an A major chord as a pivot). Note the D Dorian-like passages around ~1:38 and ~1:45.

Tobbeh99

Quote from: Th3Gavst3r on October 20, 2016, 04:19:12 PMAbout M.2, when the song is arranged in 12/8 time the simultaneous LH and RH makes sense. It's pretty clear that if you use 4/4 time, on M.2 beat 3 the LH plays a quarter-note triplet. However, if you replicate that same rhythm in 12/8 and also use an eighth-note triplet in the RH, we can see that they line up perfectly, just as they should:
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I'm not sure what you mean about it sounding too slow in 12/8, but I'm pretty sure this is how it should sound after scrutinizing the original. Here's an example with a triplet metronome running:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38825902/ShareX/2016/10/timing%20example_1.mp4


First of all, M.2 wasn't really an issue, in fact it was the only time I was sure about the rhythm. All the other measures is where I wasn't sure about the rhythm, except for the later part which clearly has a 12/8 feel.

Listening more to the song. It seems like it's something in between a triplet and 16ths. Or like the second note, on the 2nd strong beat (2 or 4), seems a bit delayed so that the triplets/16ths gets faster.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 16, 2016, 06:11:42 AM
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Th3Gavst3r

After listening to this even more, I think the horn soloist just had bad tempo and kept rushing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At this point I'd just say pick whichever meter you like best, but judging from the bass rhythm and the triplets in the string section starting at M.10 I would personally pick 12/8. This is your arrangement after all though, so the decision is yours to make!

Tobbeh99

Quote from: Th3Gavst3r on October 21, 2016, 01:39:36 PMAfter listening to this even more, I think the horn soloist just had bad tempo and kept rushing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At this point I'd just say pick whichever meter you like best, but judging from the bass rhythm and the triplet string chords starting at M.10 I would personally pick 12/8. This is your arrangement after all though, so the decision is yours to make!

I definitely agree with you that the rhythm really is dubious.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 16, 2016, 06:11:42 AM
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braix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbzEjfZKFSA
I finished my arrangement of this song, but I have yet to put in a key signature. Help would be appreciated.
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Dudeman

I'm getting F Major, but with a lot of variance because it's a Pokémon battle theme.
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WaluigiTime64

Quote from: Dudeman on October 22, 2016, 10:38:29 PMI'm getting F Major, but with a lot of variance because it's a Pokémon battle theme.
^This. I'm hearing bits of E Minor and A Major/Minor later on too.
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Nep-Nep

Ok, here is the first one. The soundtrack for this pretty tricky for me and my main weakness are time sigs and key sigs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPeaoYNzgpw&list=PLiGvWycRgz6hNoJjlk71C_tLz22CeB2Sb

WaluigiTime64

Definitely 4/4. I'm pretty sure it's in D minor (one flat).
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Zeila

I just need the key sigs, thanks in advance!

WaluigiTime64

I feel like both of them are in A Minor, but with a lot of variation.
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I'd put it in 3/4. The flute melody begins on the and of 1, and the string chords fall on the off-beats. Cymbal crashes fall on the downbeat.
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I'm only unsure about the first section's time signature. Something makes me want to say it's not 4/4 (such as the random 2/4 measures).
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Dudeman

I think it's really just that: there's a 2/4 measure every 8 bars in the opening section. It's not frequent enough to warrant a completely different time signature imo.
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