What key/time signature is this song in?

Started by The Deku Trombonist, March 24, 2013, 03:27:01 PM

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WaluigiTime64

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WaluigiTime64

Yeah, it's just the 7/8 beaming now.

I have it set to 3+2+2, which I think works for this song. Would this be correct?
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PetrifiedLasagna

For the most part I was able to figure this song out pretty good, but from m21 to m28 I am not sure what the timing is. Luckily the notes were easy to figure out. I thought it was 3/4 but it doesn't line up correctly

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Dekkadeci

PetrifiedLasagna, I'd notate that section in 4/4 time--it uses the 3-3-3-3-2-2 rhythmic pattern I've heard so often.

PetrifiedLasagna

I was able to find a helpful article to educate myself on divisive/additive rhythm. It gave the example of runaway by Bon Jovi using it (3-3-3-3-2-2) which was easily recognizable since I am learning that song ;D

http://rhythm.thw88z.com/3-3-3-3-2-2.html

Thanks for the pointer Dekkadeci.

Tobbeh99

I just made a two piano duet of Pokémon GO Gym battle theme, but I'm not sure if I got it right. Is it just me or does sections A and F sound a bit weird? I'm thinking particualarly about the rhythmic chords in the tenor register.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pokemon%20GO/Battle%21%20%28Gym%20Leader%29%20%28Two%20Pianos%29.zip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye78aoUtqOY
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Gamma-Ray

Trying to arrange some XD: Gale of Darkness music, but can't figure the (different) time signatures in this one. Obviously the beginning is in 4/4, but the amount of tempo shifts make it impossible for me to identify time signature changes and triplets. Would appreciate any help.

Tobbeh99

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I started arranging the main them from Skylanders: Imaginators. But the rhythm of the song confuses me. I can't tell if it's in 4/4 or 12/8. The first part seem to be in 4/4 and the second in 12/8, or that the 1st part uses 16ths and the second triplets, but I'm not sure if I'm right. 

Quote from: Dudeman on August 16, 2016, 06:11:42 AM
tfw you get schooled in English grammar by a guy whose first language is not English

10/10 tobbeh

Magic Mole

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Would someone mind telling me the key/time sig of this boi (it changes in the middle too):
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Maelstrom

Starts in 4/4, you could stick the guitar part in 2/4 with an extra beat here and there for those weird spots, and the 2nd half is undoubtedly 6/8.

Can't wait to see the finished product.

Tobbeh99

Quote from: Tobbeh99 on October 17, 2016, 01:44:28 PMI started arranging the main them from Skylanders: Imaginators. But the rhythm of the song confuses me. I can't tell if it's in 4/4 or 12/8. The first part seem to be in 4/4 and the second in 12/8, or that the 1st part uses 16ths and the second triplets, but I'm not sure if I'm right. 


So I finished the arrangement, but I'm really not sure if the rhythm is correct. I'm really not sure whether it should be triplets or 16ths. So it would great if someone could take a look and see if it's good.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Skylanders%20Imaginators/Main%20Theme.zip
Quote from: Dudeman on August 16, 2016, 06:11:42 AM
tfw you get schooled in English grammar by a guy whose first language is not English

10/10 tobbeh

Th3Gavst3r

Quote from: Tobbeh99 on October 20, 2016, 12:38:12 PMSo I finished the arrangement, but I'm really not sure if the rhythm is correct. I'm really not sure whether it should be triplets or 16ths. So it would great if someone could take a look and see if it's good.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Skylanders%20Imaginators/Main%20Theme.zip

I'd say that the entire song should be in 12/8 and the melody should have triplets instead of 16ths.

If you notice, in beginning section it really feels like the horns and chords are out of sync. I think the reason for this is that if the song is in 12/8, the rhythm for the low chords could be written more like this:
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When listening to that rhythm, it feels like the bass is coming in late because it's not exactly on the 'and' of beat 3. This weird syncopation doesn't happen in the second second half of the song because all of the chords start on beat 2 exactly, which makes it sound a lot more like correct 12/8 time.

Tobbeh99

Well y. It kind of looks like a 12/8 with all the triplets. But when I'm trying to do it in 12/8, it sounds way to slow. In fact when I was thinking about the rhythm you highlighted in the picture, I was thinking about having it as a duplet. And I'm also really unsure about the right hand melody. The notes sound very quick, as if they're 16ths. But it's even more confusing in m.2 when you can hear the later 2 notes in the RH play simultaneously as the LH chord. 
Quote from: Dudeman on August 16, 2016, 06:11:42 AM
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Th3Gavst3r

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About M.2, when the song is arranged in 12/8 time the simultaneous LH and RH makes sense. It's pretty clear that if you use 4/4 time, on M.2 beat 3 the LH plays a quarter-note triplet. However, if you replicate that same rhythm in 12/8 and also use an eighth-note triplet in the RH, we can see that they line up perfectly, just as they should:
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I'm not sure what you mean about it sounding too slow in 12/8, but I'm pretty sure this is how it should sound after scrutinizing the original. Here's an example with a triplet metronome running:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38825902/ShareX/2016/10/timing%20example_1.mp4