What key/time signature is this song in?

[Jompa]

Phenac City is in 4/4, with the harp notes being eighth note tuplets.

This is right, but FireArrow, you could actually use 6/8 for this - actually I would prefer either that, or 12/8.
And the "song part" is definitely in 4/4.

Outer Space is in 12/8.

[Ricky]

4/4 with triplets, 6/8 and 12/8 are far from the same even if they can sound quite similar. With 4/4 you have four quarter note beats and the pattern goes (S=Strong, M=Medium, w=weak): SwMw. When it's 6/8 you have 6 eight note beats and the pattern is: SwwMww. When it's 12/8 it's 12 eight note beats. It's something like SwwMwwMwwMww. That is at least if I have understood it right. I blame it on Lypur (Andrew Furmanczyk) otherwise. But either way it all depends on the context and 4/4 with triplets can be seen as equal to 12/8 sometimes.

[Jompa]

They all work fine.
It's just that when the harp constantly moves in tuplets, it's gonna look a whole lot more elegant in 12/8 (the beat pattern is the same as with 4/4, just with the tuplet eights).

[SlowPokemon]

They all work fine.
It's just that when the harp constantly moves in tuplets, it's gonna look a whole lot more elegant in 12/8 (the beat pattern is the same as with 4/4, just with the tuplet eights).

This is also fine. I think 4/4 with tuplets could look just as good,. You could even begin in 6/8 and then switch the time signature later (though I don't recommend this, it might look awkward).

[FireArrow]

Hmm, I'll try both and just see which one looks better. Thanks a ton guys!

[spitllama]

This should be really easy to recognize, but for some reason it isn't. I could have sworn it's 12/8, but the right hand comes in and screws everything up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCZkeg7a6Wg

[Jompa]

That should be notated in 4/4, with the left hand part (or rythm part, or whatever you call that in english) just being notated in 8th tuplets.

[spitllama]

Even though the right hand comes in on the fourth beat?

[Jompa]

Well, I don't think it does. I think the right hand part starts at the second beat of measure#1.
^But even if that is just me, and it really does start on the fourth beat, then it would still be in 4/4 with tuplet eights in the left hand, just that a time change probably would do:P

[Jompa]

Here, I worked it out:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75726060/research%20lab.mus

[spitllama]

Lol here is my sad attempt currently



You did a sort of pick-up, which makes more sense. I'm going to have to sacrifice one of those voices for 2 hands.



Thank you Jompa.

[Jompa]

No problem!
It was kinda didicult ro hear where the beat was, but when I understood that the tuplets went A-B-E instead of E-A-B, it made sense.

I believe "Eterna Forest" from Pokemon Diamond and Pearl is in 5/8

^I know this is old, but I kinda reacted to this:P
Eterna Forest is just in 4/4, not any fancy stuff there. I think you just got the beat wrong, like I first did:)

[Yugi]

Does this song have a time signature change?

EDIT: Nevermind it's all in 4/4

[Jompa]

yep

[JDMEK5]

Key signature please.

EDIT: Never mind. It's in C minor.