Politics

[Dude]

Just because something makes your like a tiny bit easier doesn't​ mean it does for everyone. Don't be selfish.

I thought you understood sarcasm, but I guess I was wrong about that and many other things. -_-

[Trainer Ave]

I still think it's entirely unnecessary to make everyone have health insurance

[Dude]

I still think it's entirely unnecessary to make everyone have health insurance

Whoosh

[mikey]

pushing everyone below the poverty line by forcing them to pay for insurance and calling it a measurement of progress is a terrible thing to do.
It's as simple as this:
The federal government monopolizes healthcare -> either our federal budget is mostly devoted to healthcare, or it becomes more expensive than anything we've seen before.

The federal government keeps their hands off healthcare -> competition naturally lowers healthcare prices to affordable rates for nearly everyone without spending any of the federal budget.

Neither is perfect, but BOTH ARE BETTER than this type of market control that's been going on.

[Trainer Ave]

I kinda like option two. The old system wasn't broken and most of the people that say they couldn't get on healthcare before really just weren't on healthcare because they never took the initiative to get it until they were required to.

[mikey]

you're supposed to like option two, option one is the liberal one.  Which probably works, but it's fiscally irresponsible.

edit: before people get salty mad, I mean because bwaf is right wing, not because liberal policy is unlikeable

[Trainer Ave]

No I'm actually middle of the road. I do tend to lean more towards the right on certain issues though


And on some issues I lean to the left.

[mikey]

"Men's Rights Activist" sounds pretty right wing to me.
I can't imagine any moderate being an activist

[Trainer Ave]

Maybe but I doubt you know what the movement actually stands for.

[MaestroUGC]

I can't imagine any moderate being an activist

Having a nuanced outlook on various political issues is crazy talk.

[Dude]

Whoosh

this still applies to the current conversation

[FireArrow]

If you can opt out of healthcare insurance competition will not lower it to affordable rates.

[Trainer Ave]

First off competition will lower it to affordable rates. That's just how business works. However that's not because people can opt out. I've been saying that it's just unnecessary to force everyone into it.

[mikey]

If you can opt out of healthcare insurance competition will not lower it to affordable rates.

well if you're forced to buy it they don't have to
if not buying it is an option they're not making money.  What makes you say it won't?

[Altissimo]

First off competition will lower it to affordable rates. That's just how business works.

I take it you've never heard of Martin Shkreli?