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Re: Politics
« Reply #1905 on: May 06, 2017, 04:39:07 PM »

didn't that guy buy a ton of reserve list magic cards and cause prices to inflate?
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« Reply #1906 on: May 07, 2017, 02:28:06 AM »

First off competition will lower it to affordable rates. That's just how business works. However that's not because people can opt out. I've been saying that it's just unnecessary to force everyone into it.

In a normal market yes, but health care doesn't work that way because:

1. Some people need it to afford their medical conditions.
2. Some people can live without and only ever buy it as a "just in case."
3. No average American can afford hospital bills without insurance.

Insurance only works if everyone buys it. Otherwise you get absurd rates for people that can't live without it (oh hey, you were born with a medical condition requiring regular treatment, have fun living in poverty or dying!) and people who only need it as bad weather insurance avoid it all together because of high rates. Then inevitably some of them end up in the hospital one way or another and can't pay their obsene bills because "oh free country I don't wanna buy medical insurance" meaning they get treated all on tax dollars making everything more expensive in a wonderful loop.

In short: medical coverage is a concept reliant on everyone taking part to work. It's also necessary if you consider life a human right, which in america it is. Yes, if you're born in perfect healt and are lucky enough to stay that way, then you are a "loser" in the system forced to buy something you don't need. However you are much less a loser than the person with multiple sclerosis would be in a free market system so yeah.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1907 on: August 01, 2017, 12:57:32 PM »

okay donald
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1908 on: August 01, 2017, 03:51:15 PM »

#SAD
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1909 on: August 02, 2017, 10:35:46 PM »

Which thing
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1910 on: August 02, 2017, 10:49:11 PM »

I heard he fired scarramucci person after 10 days maybe that's it
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1911 on: August 02, 2017, 10:52:16 PM »

Oh jeez that's right

"I'm not like Bannon, I'm not trying to suck my own cock and build my own brand off the strength of the president" or whatever...

JFC this is literally Real Housewives of DC
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1912 on: August 27, 2017, 12:30:40 AM »

I was a bit doubtful in Trump as president, mainly because of his lack of political experience. And I got to say that I'm a bit disappointed with him as president. It seems as if everything has just escalated and intensified since he took office and a lot of the decisions seems very hastily made. Not sure if everything is true or if it's the media being hysterical about everything he does. But it feels as the society (the west) in general has gotten more hysterical since he took office.

But not that it's better here in Sweden. All politicians are like "blah blah blah taxes blah blah". They literally show no leadership and just look plain dumb.
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« Reply #1913 on: August 27, 2017, 01:08:38 AM »

most of it is just the media
but fringe extremists are feeling emboldened by his rhetoric so bigotry is being combated in the open
and more extremists are rising up to fight extremism
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1914 on: August 27, 2017, 01:27:45 AM »

Liked trump till he pardoned joe arpaio..

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« Reply #1915 on: August 28, 2017, 09:14:02 PM »

Looked a bit at today's news and apparently Anna Kinberg Batra, the party leader of the liberal-conservative party "Moderaterna" (the moderates) apparently resigned from her position. It really wasn't unexpected as her and the party's support has just fallen day by day. But the thing that annoys me about it is that some people tries to argue that "she had to go just because or partly because she's a woman". And also following up with "And there we can all see how evil and patriarchal the right is. Nothing has changed". First of all, to no surprise at all are most of those people leftists, either being writers from the left-center newspaper, or straight up the very leader of the ultra-left feministparty. Which firstly says something about their bias. But they really just want to take this as a chance to make a punch towards the right liberal-conservatives and try to portray them as bad people who are "stuck in the old days". And it's so stupid because it has nothing to do with her resign.

The big reason is that she hasn't been clear on position towards the nationalistic ultra-right party, Sverigedemokraterna (Sweden-democrats). Sometimes she says "No I want to (continue to) cooperate with the other center-right parties (which has created an alliance called "Alliansen" (The alliance)). But other times she has kind of said "Y, we could use their support to take down the left socialist government", and she has been less unclear as the Sweden-democrats has rose in support percent. And the problem with the Moderates cooperating with the Sweden-democrats is that 2 of the 4 parties in the Alliance (the more center parties) just began to move farther away from the Moderates and the entire structure of the right wing alliance began to be questioned as the center parties could see an option of cooperating with the social-democrats rather than with the Sweden-democrats.

The other mistake she made was that she wasn't even clear of what politics the party were going for. A lot of politicians often say that their mistake was that "they were not clear enough of what their message/politics was". And I don't think anyone really knows what politics they care about, apart from classic right-wing politics like lower taxes and care about the companies and the military. And it's a bigger problem now then before, because now we have a new right-wing party, the Sweden-democrats, who has just grown bigger and bigger´, being now the party with 2nd largest vote support, according to most polls. So the Sweden-democrats basically out out-competed them.

And with that said it is very clear that she just simply failed at the very main objectives as a party leader, -to make the party bigger and to take over as the leading party. She did exactly the opposite, -she made her party lose support and also the entire center-right alliance questionable.

I hope they get a new and good leader. They really needs it as the Swedendemocrats has gotten bigger and bigger by the time. And I really don't have much confidence in them. They seem pretty suspicious, having tried to clear away all the rasists from the party, the party seem kind of unclear and suspicious. And if the Moderats can get a good leader and can strengthen the alliance I think that would good in general for Swedish politics and in turn for Sweden as a country. There have been a lot of talk that "the negative right" has taken over in the right-wing parties which very well might be true, but also is just a bad thing. Because when you think about it, you don't want any party to really be a "negative party", because if you have a negative party then you're going to have the idea that the future is dark and basically make the country worse or just bad. And I want the best of the parties so therefore a good leader could be a start for better politics in Sweden. 
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1916 on: August 29, 2017, 12:21:38 AM »

that's moderately terrifying
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1917 on: August 29, 2017, 04:52:44 AM »

You guys are acting ike Trump being a terrible president is a surprise.

Haha...
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« Reply #1918 on: August 29, 2017, 01:20:04 PM »

You guys are acting ike Trump being a terrible president is a surprise.

Haha...

I think a lot of people were kind of "give him a shot", and has now come to the conclusion that he's more or less bad. One thing I find a bit strange is that he and his party is supposed to be "conservative" but yet has done like millions of executive orders and changed everything. Doesn't seem that conservative to me.

And also I don't think Clinton would be that good either. She would most likely just ride on the politics that Obama created. I think she had a statement that she thought it was "her turn". That kind of shows how much thought she has in running for presidency. A lot of the left also disliked her for her mingling with wall street and donors.

But I really think the election is an example of both the left and the right has kind of declined, sadly. The right seems to have this negative view that "we desperately need a strong and bold leader to revive the country before it's too late.", and playing of emotions like "man, society has just fallen year after year. It was a lot better back in the days". And they also seem very bold, self-confident and emotionless like "everything the right does and thinks is right and everything the left does and thinks is wrong and bad" with little explanation why. And also in general so authoritarian, take every word that their leader tells them without any thought or criticism.

While the left has also decline in the sense that they just seem so corny now, what I call "the hippie-left". Which is super-focused on all these identity-politics (caring so much if the person is white, black, rich, poor, gay, cis etc.). And then also want to like brainwash people with their "norm-breaking" and want it to be taught at every section of society, because apparently all norms, which the society has been based upon, have been evil and discriminating. And lastly they have so naiv opinions on law and order, wanting to have as little laws as possible, because laws are apparently in the way of peoples freedom. And also just blindly think that multicultural and pluralism by default is something good in it's nature, and the only reason they do it is to try to make them self look like the "nice guys" when the right has been more authoritarian.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #1919 on: August 29, 2017, 01:36:58 PM »

Tobbeh's back
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