What are you playing right now?

[DrP]

But Poison Fang is only 50% power, while sludge bomb is 90%... I did raise it to 252 Attack, 252 Sp Def and 6 speed EVs. It still is not at lv 39 AND doesn't know Cross Poison yet (gotta get to Blackthorn City to get the "learned)

[Roz~]

But since you get STAB it still becomes a really reliable move. Also, Nasty Plot on a Crobat's nice, though you need to breed to get it since it's only an egg move.

[SlowPokemon]

Nasty Plot is good, but its Speed is really powerful.

Does Crobat have any moves that are good with speed?

[DrP]

Brave Bird! Right now, its speed is decreased since it's holding a Macho Brace... but if its EVs are maxed out, I dont think I need it anymore (or do I still need it for level ups)

[Roz~]

Brave Bird! Right now, its speed is decreased since it's holding a Macho Brace... but if its EVs are maxed out, I dont think I need it anymore (or do I still need it for level ups)

The Macho Brace's only use is for your Pokemon to get EVs faster. After you have your 510 EVs, you don't need it anymore.

[DrP]

Ok... yay... so now my Pokémon dont have to be slower anymore (so much for umbreon's payback then. Ill teach it Curse or something)

[Roz~]

Hmm yeah, you should go for curse. You could also give it Iron Ball, but Lefties are a lot more useful.

[SlowPokemon]

Hmm. Iron Ball... such an odd item...

What could that be good for outside of Trick movesets? Any examples?

I mean, I can see Lagging Tail's usage...

[Roz~]

Hmm. Iron Ball... such an odd item...

What could that be good for outside of Trick movesets? Any examples?

I mean, I can see Lagging Tail's usage...

I've only seen Iron Ball being used with Trick movesets... Maybe people could use it in Trick Room's teams. Then again giving 'mons 0 Spd IVs should do the trick, so I wouldn't use it anyway.

[DrP]

Hmm yeah, you should go for curse. You could also give it Iron Ball, but Lefties are a lot more useful.

Lefties?

[Oni-Link]

I've only seen Iron Ball being used with Trick movesets... Maybe people could use it in Trick Room's teams. Then again giving 'mons 0 Spd IVs should do the trick, so I wouldn't use it anyway.

Iron ball can be used by those who know fling, too.
Then again, not many movesets use that.

Lefties?

Leftovers.

[Roz~]

Iron ball can be used by those who know fling, too.
Then again, not many movesets use that.

I think I've never seen anyone using Fling. Kind of an useless move, since you literally waste your Item.

Another move that isn't really use but can be awesome is Torment. Use it on a Choiced 'mon, and it automatically has to use Struggle. You need to be really good at predicting though.

[DrP]

I need to get some Lefties then!

[Roz~]

I need to get some Lefties then!

Snorlax has Lefties when you capture it. Otherwise I think you need the Pickup ability, but you really have littles chances (~1%) of finding them.

[DrP]

I has a lot!