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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #120 on: May 06, 2018, 01:16:02 AM »

Votecount
Toby: 3 (BlackDragonSlayer, Trasdegi, E. Gadd Industries)
BlackDragonSlayer: 4 (Toby, FireArrow, Greg, ThatHiddenCharacter)
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #121 on: May 06, 2018, 01:18:15 AM »

While Toby is slightly suspect, I’m not sure he’s our best lynch target. Tras, on the other hand, is acting very similarly to how he did in the Sombra game by sort of flying under the radar.

Raeko seems genuinely human to me, sort of unfortunate she wasn’t around much Day 1.

I’m comfortable with a BDS lynch. He hasn’t done nearly as good of a job defending himself that I’ve seen in previous games imo. I’ll try to make a more detailed post later but I’m a bit tied up atm. Apologies in advance but I at least wanted to get a vote down. Feel free to message me on Discord if you wanna chat
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #122 on: May 06, 2018, 01:19:49 AM »

IIIIIIIIIIIINSTA!

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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #123 on: May 06, 2018, 01:22:46 AM »

TWG CV (Off the Grid I):  Roll of the Dice


THE GRID |Roll 1Roll 2Roll 3
Roll 4One-shot VigilanteBrutal WolfVanilla Human
Roll 5Human Odd-Night SeerVanilla HumanVanilla Wolf
Roll 6Wolf RoleblockerHuman GuardianVanilla Human

3 Wolves
8 Humans

At the beginning of the game, a 6-sided die is rolled.  The number rolled will determine how the setup is filled; a roll of 2 would produce the following setup:

1 Brutal Wolf
2 Vanilla Wolves

1 Human Guardian
7 Vanilla Humans

Whereas a roll of 6 would produce the following setup:

1 Wolf Roleblocker
2 Vanilla Wolves

1 Human Guardian
7 Vanilla Humans


There will always be 3 wolf-aligned roles and 8 human-aligned roles.  They are merely replaced by the roles in the grid.

Players:
1. Olimar12345
2. BlackDragonSlayer
3. Trasdegi
4. ThatHiddenCharacter
5. BrainyLucario
6. Toby
7. blueflower999
8. Greg
9. raeko
10. FireArrow
11. E.Gadd Industries

BlackDragonSlayer was insta'd!  He was a Vanilla Human.  It is now Night 2.  Might 2 ends roughly 20 hours and 40 minutes from this post, at 4:00 PM CST on May 6.
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #124 on: May 06, 2018, 01:23:22 AM »

Shoot I tried to get a vote down during an intermission and didn’t check the tallies (and got ninja’d by Greg changing votes). My fault guys.
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #125 on: May 06, 2018, 10:00:42 PM »

TWG CV (Off the Grid I):  Roll of the Dice


THE GRID |Roll 1Roll 2Roll 3
Roll 4One-shot VigilanteBrutal WolfVanilla Human
Roll 5Human Odd-Night SeerVanilla HumanVanilla Wolf
Roll 6Wolf RoleblockerHuman GuardianVanilla Human

3 Wolves
8 Humans

At the beginning of the game, a 6-sided die is rolled.  The number rolled will determine how the setup is filled; a roll of 2 would produce the following setup:

1 Brutal Wolf
2 Vanilla Wolves

1 Human Guardian
7 Vanilla Humans

Whereas a roll of 6 would produce the following setup:

1 Wolf Roleblocker
2 Vanilla Wolves

1 Human Guardian
7 Vanilla Humans


There will always be 3 wolf-aligned roles and 8 human-aligned roles.  They are merely replaced by the roles in the grid.

Players:
1. Olimar12345
2. BlackDragonSlayer
3. Trasdegi
4. ThatHiddenCharacter
5. BrainyLucario
6. Toby
7. blueflower999
8. Greg
9. raeko
10. FireArrow
11. E.Gadd Industries

Raeko was murdered!  She was a Vanilla Human.  It is now Day 3.  Day 3 ends 48 hours from this post, at 4:00 PM CST on Tuesday, May 8.
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #126 on: May 06, 2018, 10:19:22 PM »

this game is so weird
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #127 on: May 06, 2018, 10:21:24 PM »

wolves are clearly set on framing people

wolf olimar to frame bds,
wolf raeko to frame me

I've not seen such obvious framing wolfings before. This isn't typical wolf play where they wolf the most human looking so they can hide better.
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #128 on: May 06, 2018, 11:04:19 PM »

Here's some stats on game votes:

All votes from living players (also linked):

Trasdegi
Day 1: Olimar, Brainy
Day 2: Toby

ThatHiddenCharacter
Day 1: no vote
Day 2: BDS

Toby
Day 1: Brainy
Day 2: Trasdegi, BDS

blueflower999
Day 1: Olimar
Day 2: BDS

Greg
Day 1: THC, Brainy
Day 2: Toby, BDS

FireArrow
Day 1: Greg
Day 2: BDS

E.Gadd Industries
Day 1: Olimar
Day 2: Toby
[close]

Players and who they have not voted for:
Trasdegi:
ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

ThatHiddenCharacter:
Trasdegi, Toby, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

Toby:
ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

blueflower999:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, Toby, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

Greg:
Trasdegi, blueflower999, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

FireArrow:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, Toby, blueflower999, E.Gadd Industries

E.Gadd Industries:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow
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Player's and who they have been voted by
Trasdegi:
Toby

ThatHiddenCharacter:
Greg

Toby:
Trasdegi, Greg, E. Gadd


blueflower999:
no one

Greg:
FireArrow

FireArrow:
no one

E.Gadd Industries:
no one
[close]

Players who have not voted each other

Trasdegi:
ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

ThatHiddenCharacter:
Trasdegi, Toby, blueflower999, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

Toby:
ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, FireArrow

blueflower999:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, Toby, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

Greg:
Trasdegi, blueflower999, E.Gadd Industries

FireArrow:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, Toby, blueflower999, E.Gadd Industries

E.Gadd Industries:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow
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Some initial notes:
-THC was the only player to make no vote Day 1
-Toby and Trasdegi are the only player's to have voted each other (and are still living)
-Greg has made the most votes (4), none of which have been safeties, placeholders, or admitted pressure votes
-THC has made the least votes (1)
-Trasdegi, THC, blueflower and Olimar all have only voted for the top wagons each day, Trasdegi is the only one to have voted more than once on a given day out of them.
-Toby and Greg are the only players who have had their vote on the winning lynch each day.
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #129 on: May 07, 2018, 12:40:09 AM »

Interesting statistics, but what conclusions are you proposing from them?
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #130 on: May 07, 2018, 12:56:13 AM »

Sorry I've been a bit quiet today I've got an exam on Tuesday I've been trying to study for.

I wanted to see if it helped me draw any strong relationships between players, but voting in general this game has been pretty inactive and not many votes have been flying around to draw a strong conclusion on that.

I do feel like yourself (blueflower) and Trasdegi have been very weak with your votes. I do feel like your reasoning was piggy backing on everyone else's. For you in particular, it seemed like you just wanted to vote any wagon with participating little to it.
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #131 on: May 07, 2018, 01:14:03 AM »

wolves are clearly set on framing people

wolf olimar to frame bds,
wolf raeko to frame me

I've not seen such obvious framing wolfings before. This isn't typical wolf play where they wolf the most human looking so they can hide better

Excuse me, what? Raeko was the single most human read player in the game, how is it not a typical wolfing? And you were so certain that the Olimar wolfing was because he was a special, but now that you're the most likely person to of known he was a special, the narrative suddenly changes to "all these wolfings are because of framings!"

Here's some stats on game votes:

All votes from living players (also linked):

Trasdegi
Day 1: Olimar, Brainy
Day 2: Toby

ThatHiddenCharacter
Day 1: no vote
Day 2: BDS

Toby
Day 1: Brainy
Day 2: Trasdegi, BDS

blueflower999
Day 1: Olimar
Day 2: BDS

Greg
Day 1: THC, Brainy
Day 2: Toby, BDS

FireArrow
Day 1: Greg
Day 2: BDS

E.Gadd Industries
Day 1: Olimar
Day 2: Toby
[close]

Players and who they have not voted for:
Trasdegi:
ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

ThatHiddenCharacter:
Trasdegi, Toby, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

Toby:
ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

blueflower999:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, Toby, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

Greg:
Trasdegi, blueflower999, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

FireArrow:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, Toby, blueflower999, E.Gadd Industries

E.Gadd Industries:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow
[close]

Player's and who they have been voted by
Trasdegi:
Toby

ThatHiddenCharacter:
Greg

Toby:
Trasdegi, Greg, E. Gadd


blueflower999:
no one

Greg:
FireArrow

FireArrow:
no one

E.Gadd Industries:
no one
[close]

Players who have not voted each other

Trasdegi:
ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

ThatHiddenCharacter:
Trasdegi, Toby, blueflower999, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

Toby:
ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, FireArrow

blueflower999:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, Toby, Greg, FireArrow, E.Gadd Industries

Greg:
Trasdegi, blueflower999, E.Gadd Industries

FireArrow:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, Toby, blueflower999, E.Gadd Industries

E.Gadd Industries:
Trasdegi, ThatHiddenCharacter, blueflower999, Greg, FireArrow
[close]

Some initial notes:
-THC was the only player to make no vote Day 1
-Toby and Trasdegi are the only player's to have voted each other (and are still living)
-Greg has made the most votes (4), none of which have been safeties, placeholders, or admitted pressure votes
-THC has made the least votes (1)
-Trasdegi, THC, blueflower and Olimar all have only voted for the top wagons each day, Trasdegi is the only one to have voted more than once on a given day out of them.
-Toby and Greg are the only players who have had their vote on the winning lynch each day.

Is this a really convoluted way of saying you don't have a lot of viable wolf partners, because the only "useful" information out of this is that everyone has a sizeable pool of potential partners besides you, granted you still have more than enough to form a wolf team.

I know you adressed most of these in the discord at some point, but I'd like you to do so in the thread now:
-Given everything that's happened, who do you think are the wolves?
-Convince me that you PR hunting is not the best explanation for Olimar's n1 wolfing.
-Give me an explanation for all the crazy shit you've been doing that's lead nowhere, because a lot of it looks like you trying to force lynches on players for dumb reasons. This includes: Angleshooting raeko (oh look she was human), asking BDS a series of pointless questions (sadly he took the bait and you got him), and the tras log (something you immediately stopped pursuing once BDS lynch was looking up.) They look less like you trying to find a wolf and more like you trying to pin random shit on people to get them lynched.
-THC's father-son relationship with you into what looked like a scripted "oh how could toby of tricked us all" when BDS flipped green.
-The posts I'm responding to right now, which looks like you trying to show your humanity under the guise of wolf hunting.
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #132 on: May 07, 2018, 01:48:59 AM »

Blueflower (and anyone else who wants to chime in) what do you think about THC's reaction to the BDS human flip? Throughout the game he's been thinking I am human, but on the flip he suddenly changes. I understand the weird 'if it's not BDS, it's Toby' mentality, but it seems so extra and 'fake' how he is reacting i.e 'toby tricked me' stuff.

THC reacting to bds flip
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:23 AM
Oh, god damn

Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:23 AM
yeah no you still are
E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:23 AM
._.
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:23 AM
imma go study and think about this for a bit
but toby >:cccc
also thc >:cccc
Greg - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
FUCK
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
I thought BDS was a wolf...

Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
I did too
I mean
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
But apparently it's Toby

this just seems like a very confident statement. Again understand if not bds then toby mentality, but thc favoured me this entire game and he jumps ship so quick, and quite seemingly confident
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
The card flips realls helps though
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
I can't believe I fell for his trick

fake
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
He's a good player
Greg - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
watch toby also be human
that would be the real long con
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
Don't feel too bad, just learn from this game
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:24 AM
He must've claimed the fake log to me because he knows I'm very gullible

whether you were human or not didn't matter, i thought i explained this to you. also fake/extra
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:25 AM
or you're his wolf partner ;]
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:25 AM
Well yeah, who else would I be?

Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:26 AM
THC + Toby mentor relationship makes a lot of sense given everything that's happened
at the same time
Toby + trying to pocket THC also makes sense and with how he's playing it's definitely possible
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:26 AM
What does that second one mean?

Greg - Yesterday at 1:27 AM
you guys think blueflower might be a wolf with toby
Mikey - Yesterday at 1:27 AM
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Pocketing
Pocketing
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:27 AM
Ah

Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:27 AM
It's definitely the side of the table he falls onto
but
E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:27 AM
With the last minute insta, it’s possible.
Ninja’d
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:28 AM
I don't think he'd go so far as to insta when they would of had the lynch anyways
Greg - Yesterday at 1:28 AM
that's true I guess
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:28 AM
Well, it also looks like he didn't know it was an insta so w/e
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:28 AM
Unless he's a wolf, but legitimately didn't realize it was an insta
Ninja'd

Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:28 AM
yeee
I wish there was more from blueflower
E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:29 AM
I wish he was in the discord
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:29 AM
That would help

E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:29 AM
Remind me why he refuses to join any?
Or has he even stated a reason?
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:29 AM
Paranoia?

I still think Tras is a wolf, btw
Greg - Yesterday at 1:30 AM
you think tras and toby are wolf partners?
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:30 AM
Possibly
Tras has only ever been this active as a wolf

this gets a different colour because it's something else. Tras isn't active like holy moly, he disappeared for the entire day phase minus 15 mins. Trying to cast fake shade onto Tras??
Greg - Yesterday at 1:30 AM
what
he skipped all of day 2

relevant
E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:30 AM
I mean, Blue doesn’t want to join any Discord servers. So it wouldn’t necessarily be fear of being discovered
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
He normally misses the entire game for the part. I think.
*the most part

I don't think he did in sombra? If you look at all his posts in that game: http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3606;area=showposts;start=0 (his posts are the most recent 19 from the game) He is generally active every day, he does miss a few days but it's towards the end after getting called out as so active, and he's usually only gone for like 30 hours, as opposed to being gone for almost 42 hours last day phase this game. I think 'tras being active' is a very very very weak fake point on Tras.
Greg - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
eesh
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
I meant Paranoia in general

E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
His activity is definitely sparse in those games
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
Not TWG related

E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
Ohhhhhh
That’s definitely possible.
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
Tras and toby are not likely partners
because of the whole log thing
I guess because Toby didn't pull the trigger, it could of been a distancing scheme
but at the same time, he couldn't of pulled the trigger because he told you
Greg - Yesterday at 1:32 AM
wait
oh
uh
so the thing that ultimately made me switch my vote was that it seemed like toby could have screwed trasdegi and didn't
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:33 AM
So if tras is human, the means you're human
Greg - Yesterday at 1:33 AM
but if they're both wolves...
ehh
unlikely but possible
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:33 AM
Don't rule it out
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:34 AM
So most likely, Toby's human that made bad play/Tras is human that fell into the wrong place, wrong time, but it's also a possible distancing scheme. Am I getting that right?
Cause that sounds confusing

E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:35 AM
Wait, when was Toby corroborated?
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:36 AM
?

E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:36 AM
“Toby’s human that made bad play”
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:36 AM
If he's human he made a lot of bad plays
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:36 AM
That's what I meant

E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 1:36 AM
Oh
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:36 AM
Also
Blueflower - Tras, on the other hand, is acting very similarly to how he did in the Sombra game by sort of flying under the radar.

Um, no? He wasn't under the radar during Sombra. If anything, he was making little ping-y noises more than he's ever done.

Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:38 AM
blueflower confirms he didn't know it was an insta
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:38 AM
Unless that's a lie. DUN-DUN

Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:38 AM
If he's a wolf I don't know what he'd get out of an insta
but very spooky indeed
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:39 AM
Anyway, I still think that statement about Tras is pretty suspicious since it's just not true
It was his most active game to date
So unless blue doesn't know what he's talking about at all, that's just strange
I wish raeko would show up and tell us what she thinks
And if I remember correctly, we have 0 extra lives, and the only 1-up isn't easy to get

Greg - Yesterday at 1:44 AM
@raeko
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:44 AM
Pinging won't work, I did that earlier

Greg - Yesterday at 1:44 AM
oh well
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 1:46 AM
We probably shouldn't discuss too much during the night phase, though
Don't want wolves getting any wolfing ideas from our discussions
Gonna be honest, though, while I'm mad at Toby for tricking me, I'm still a bit pissed at BDS's lack of... good plays this game. He didn't actually give good reasoning for anything and was pretty much just jumping on bandwagons. Or was he starting them? I can't remember.

again adding in this fake 'toby tricked me' point
Gerik "FireArrow" - Yesterday at 1:50 AM
I do agree with you there
raeko - Yesterday at 2:45 AM
well that's a stink....
sorry I wasn't around, I thought we had more time
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 2:45 AM
I don't blame ya

raeko - Yesterday at 2:47 AM
if i die don't let toby get away
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 2:49 AM
I won't
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I bolded everything THC posted. Now, I admit, I have defended THC this game for his playstyle, because I thought perhaps he was just really looking to improve his playstyle and become a more active/helpful player. But actually reading into everything here I do think he's been very extra, but I still want other thoughts on it in case it's just me.

I put in red stuff relevant to my point

Stuff in blue is my own comments

Stuff in pink is on another subject about his thoughts on Trasdegi though I'm a bit confused and not sure if he is talking about blueflower's thoughts or his own so if he could clear that up that would be fab
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Re: TWG CV (Off the Grid I): Roll of the Dice
« Reply #133 on: May 07, 2018, 02:08:03 AM »

Truthfully I thought BDS was acting really weird too and was also surprised by his flip. THC's reaction doesn't feel genuine to me, though. He seems overly accusatory and jumps to blame you pretty quickly.

That being said THC joined NSM when I was on hiatus so I'm not as used to his playstyle as some of you are.
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« Reply #134 on: May 07, 2018, 02:35:46 AM »

Excuse me, what? Raeko was the single most human read player in the game, how is it not a typical wolfing? And you were so certain that the Olimar wolfing was because he was a special, but now that you're the most likely person to of known he was a special, the narrative suddenly changes to "all these wolfings are because of framings!"

Is this a really convoluted way of saying you don't have a lot of viable wolf partners, because the only "useful" information out of this is that everyone has a sizeable pool of potential partners besides you, granted you still have more than enough to form a wolf team.

I know you adressed most of these in the discord at some point, but I'd like you to do so in the thread now:
-Given everything that's happened, who do you think are the wolves?
-Convince me that you PR hunting is not the best explanation for Olimar's n1 wolfing.
-Give me an explanation for all the crazy shit you've been doing that's lead nowhere, because a lot of it looks like you trying to force lynches on players for dumb reasons. This includes: Angleshooting raeko (oh look she was human), asking BDS a series of pointless questions (sadly he took the bait and you got him), and the tras log (something you immediately stopped pursuing once BDS lynch was looking up.) They look less like you trying to find a wolf and more like you trying to pin random shit on people to get them lynched.
-THC's father-son relationship with you into what looked like a scripted "oh how could toby of tricked us all" when BDS flipped green.
-The posts I'm responding to right now, which looks like you trying to show your humanity under the guise of wolf hunting.

Ok i really don't have enough time right now unfortunately to respond to all of this in as much detail as I would like as it's almost 2am and I need to sleep so I'm not tired for my huge study session i'm doing tomorrow before my exam on Tuesday. But I'll try respond to what I can now:

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Excuse me, what? Raeko was the single most human read player in the game, how is it not a typical wolfing?

Gerik "FireArrow" - Last Saturday at 1:25 AM
I think I'm looking at Greg + BDS + Tras or E Gadd rn
oh ez
add raeko tentatively too that list

Gerik - Last Friday at 1:39 AM
Can you not mention the raeko pm thing for awhile? I wanna get a chance to see who couldve been pming her if youre right
Toby - Last Friday at 1:39 AM
sure
Gerik - Last Friday at 1:39 AM
Ty bb
Toby - Last Friday at 1:39 AM
how do you plan on doing that
Gerik - Last Friday at 1:40 AM
See if anyone makes any slips and looks like theyve been im contact with her
We currently have 0 info because of mia and i dont like that
Toby - Last Friday at 1:43 AM
ok

I'm not going to look into everyone right now, but I don't think you were that keen on thinking Raeko was human, so I don't know why you're coming out with saying she was the most human looking player. Also I think people thought a Raeko/BDS partnership was likely (during day 2) and when majority of people voted BDS, i think that suggests that almost majority also didn't like Raeko. But also, my memories on people's opinion on Raeko are fainted, and I don't have time to do a complete look back on everyone, but I can do maybe tomorrow during a study break? I do guess it's possible with the BDS flip green people subconsciously also saw Raeko as more human, but there wasn't much discussion on that for everyone to believe she was most looked human.

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And you were so certain that the Olimar wolfing was because he was a special, but now that you're the most likely person to of known he was a special, the narrative suddenly changes to "all these wolfings are because of framings!"

bruh what don't make me bring up more logs, but I wasn't the only person to think of this, and it wasn't even my first thought; it being some weird BDS plan was. Also how am I the most likely person to know he was special? I think most likely is Tras if you want to put labels on most/least likely for the whole [Olimar: "Tras knew I was human"], tras switched last minute day 1. Also I already said that after thinking about Tras's response I think wolves just got lucky with Olimar; so yes, I'm allowed to have another thought aren't I???

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Is this a really convoluted way of saying you don't have a lot of viable wolf partners, because the only "useful" information out of this is that everyone has a sizeable pool of potential partners besides you, granted you still have more than enough to form a wolf team.

lol no, if that was my plan, you said it enough for me in discord. I wanted to know who people voted myself, and I was hoping it might draw a few connections with player's avoiding each other, but as I already said, I realised voting as a whole wasn't active enough to really draw such. But I think it makes blueflower look quite guilty for his weak reason bandwagon-ish votes.

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-Given everything that's happened, who do you think are the wolves?
So I'm still trying to process through some things and dig deeper for some extra information. Right now I'm thinking THC, but as partners for him it would have to be yourself (Firearrow) and blueflower maybe??? (I need to look into THC partnerships more because his pool is really quite small and has conflict-ions which I'm not sure I'd give THC credit for as a wolf to fake conflict-ions). THC had been against Trasdegi and E. Gadd from the start. Bringing up lots of unnecessary (if they're wolf partners) suspicious looking points on them. See: they copied his reasoning on the bds/olimar interaction. see the copied reasoning here I don't have time to search for THC's own reasoning but I can probably try tomorrow or THC might be able to bring it up for you. Also Greg was pushing for THC's lynch very early and placed the second (?) vote of the game on him. So that's quite harsh distancing if they're buddies, but I Greg isnt someone to play so wrecklessly as a wolf.

In regards to any other possibilities;I'm really not sure and I want to re read everything which I can try do tomorrow. I want to look into everyone more because I can think of odd things everyone has done that makes me want to look into them more.

I'm wanting to look into you a bit more, and even Greg, I think both of you at times have seemed occasionally sheepish regarding certain scenarios. For greg it would be the raeko incident and for you it would be now, (although im not sure if the correct term is sheepish but i frankly have little time to think of a better word LOL). These aren't strong thoughts at all but I want to look into them more to get more details.

Trasdegi's log reaction I want to have another look at, but I'm thinking he's probably human for his playstyle as a whole and his activity levels are super common and he seems less energetic and excited about the game than how he did last game.

E. gadd i want to look into because he's been very quiet.

And I want to look at blueflower because his votes and lack of searching for other options than the main ones worry me.

so yeah everyone really I want to look at again in more detail. I focused a bit much on BDS/Raeko, thinking they were sure things so my thoughts on other players are lacking.

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-Convince me that you PR hunting is not the best explanation for Olimar's n1 wolfing.
I think Olimar would have brought this up if I was PR hunting him? Plus I don't know why you think I would take such a risk to telling everyone the wolves must have been PR hunting if I was a wolf and that was genuinely what we were doing. I had no suspicion on me, I wouldn't need to take a risk like that to promote my humanity, I would have been free to coast the game questioning people here and there without pulling any risky stunts. I really can't get into this anymore atm cause time, but I'm pretty sure I've talked about this, or something similar regarding the same kind of topic before, so if you are able to find that and give it a re-read it would save me repeating myself :< (sorry no time maybe tomorrow, but now my non-study things to do are building up).

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-Give me an explanation for all the crazy shit you've been doing that's lead nowhere, because a lot of it looks like you trying to force lynches on players for dumb reasons. This includes: Angleshooting raeko (oh look she was human), asking BDS a series of pointless questions (sadly he took the bait and you got him), and the tras log (something you immediately stopped pursuing once BDS lynch was looking up.) They look less like you trying to find a wolf and more like you trying to pin random shit on people to get them lynched./quote
Some things lead nowhere some things lead somewhere, not my fault if they don't get anywhere, but I've tried. Ok the thing with Raeko, you seemed to agree with my points on it, and i've explained it extensively in discord which I'm sure you've read so I think you should understand my views on it. I guess forum time can be wrong, but I didn't think so, and honestly this is the dumbest riskiest shit ever to pull as a wolf.
Man been over this, I wanted to put pressure on him. But I also wanted to know why he was having a seemingly lack of interest for the game. In his previous wolf games he seems to be quieter than usual, I wanted to pressure that thought. Plus, I've never known BDS to skip out on reading stuff and taking things into detail, so I thought it was odd where he claimed to be skipping, but maybe I'm mistaken on this point. Also bds literally done almost nothing for the good of humans this game, compared to what I've seen him do before, so I wanted to pressure him to see how interested and how much he cared for human cause. And look, the majority of the topic agree'd he was being weird as shit and likely wolf, don't kick me up the butt just because I said it.

The Tras log was a possibility at getting the most likely person Olimar could have claimed to, to panic freak out and show wolf. I had to drop it because why would I continue pushing it? The log I had was fake, I lied to everyone, but it was to try to catch a wolf and get a reaction from him. If I continued on with it I would only be seeing if I could get a lynch to stick or not, but that's not my intention, I wanted to get the reaction and I got it so I dropped it. As a wolf it would have been better to let it go on, and if no one bites it then I turn around and go 'lol it was all fake just for reactions lol' and have my wolf partner back me up saying 'yeah he told me it was fake'.

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-THC's father-son relationship with you into what looked like a scripted "oh how could toby of tricked us all" when BDS flipped green.
i think my previous post explains this for you, anything else let me know

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-The posts I'm responding to right now, which looks like you trying to show your humanity under the guise of wolf hunting.
see any game i play in to see I put effort into everything. Also if we had the chat logs from twg scrambled eggs you would see despite having a red check on me, as a human, I was still being extremely helpful in chat, doing reaction tests, referencing player's posts in order to try and find the wolves. Plus I already said in one of my previous posts that it wasn't as helpful as I was hoping it could be, however, it will still let everyone see peoples direct reasons for all the votes they made, and see who has just been following wagons or giving their own reasoning. Its also something to refer back to quickly if needed.


this post is a bit wishy washy because i typed it as quick as i can but i really need to study, I have 3 essays to make and memorise tomorrow :(
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