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Show posts MenuQuote from: Maelstrom on March 31, 2017, 08:04:43 PMThere is no rule against including both versions in the same submission if you really want to, but if you think they're best split up, go ahead.I think it's best split up, it's more practical. For example, if someone want to listen the night version with the midi, it would be a lot easier if there are 2 midi files.
Quote from: Latios212 on March 31, 2017, 08:14:02 PMPersonally I prefer it this way if the song is sufficiently long.It's 2 pages, I think it's sufficiently long.totally not because I only arranged the night version of Rito Village
Quote from: Zeila on March 30, 2017, 08:35:40 PMFor starters, this is pretty good and I'm looking forward to more stuff of this quality (also, welcome to NSM!) I noticed that your arranger name is different than your username. You can go to your profile and change your arranger name so it will show up as what's written on the sheet on siteThanks My arranger (and artistic) name is "Pianoth Eakòs Shaveck", which I thought to be a little too long for the main site, so I abbreviated to "Pianoth". Noticing there are even longer names, I changed it to the full name.
Quote from: Zeila on March 30, 2017, 08:35:40 PMPersonally, I think the pauses need to go, as well as the three repeated measures (e.g. m32-35). It just sounds very odd, and they don't exist in the actual game. To be honest, I'm more inclined as to submitting separate Day and Night versions, especially considering that several songs on the Sound Selection are split up and do not contain the extra instruments/ritardandos/accelerandos that exist in the latter two versions of Peaches Lamb's uploads (at least, I don't think so). They do, however, exist in game (around sunrise and sunset) and act as transitions. Even if this one is not specifically included in the Sound Selection, I think uniformity would be good. If you really want to keep it as one sheet, I suggest putting the transitions in between the actual Day and Night versions
Quote from: Latios212 on March 30, 2017, 08:44:31 PM^yeah this. (To the extent of my knowledge) there's no official full soundtrack at the moment, just the sound selection CD that does not contain the Korok forest tracks. Given that that CD separates other areas (Zora's Domain, Rito Village, etc.) into separate day and night tracks, and the fact that this video includes odd pauses, I'm inclined to say that this video was likely artificially stitched together to include all the relevant parts from the game. I suppose it's fine to include both day and night versions in one sheet if you wish, but if you do so, you should clearly demarcate the day, night and transition sections with the correct repeat structures. Right now it looks like a very long piece that has a definitive start and end - which it is not, as the "area" themes in this game loop.I totally agree with you. I didn't initially planned to share this arrangement when I did it, that's why I did it like that. I think that the most appropriate thing to do for this site would be this:
Quote from: Zeila on March 30, 2017, 08:35:40 PMSome other stuff:I'll widen the margins a bit.
- You should consider flipping the articulations in the second layer for spots like m20 (and maybe hide the staccato on the last eighth note). If not, then you should widen the margins a bit
Quote from: Zeila on March 30, 2017, 08:35:40 PMI think you should split the composer info into two linesOk, I'll split it like this: "Composed by Manaka Kataoka, /n Yasuaki Iwata and Hajime Wakai"
Quote from: Zeila on March 30, 2017, 08:35:40 PMSome of the expression texts are quite large compared to the standard rit/accel's you put. It'd look better if you lowered the font sizeI blame the process of conversion from Sibelius to Finale for that. I'll reduce the size of the font of all the expressions (even though, removing all the bars from 67 to 143, there wouldn't be any rit. or accel.).
Quote from: Zeila on March 30, 2017, 08:35:40 PMMaybe you can label the day and night sections as part of an expression so that it attaches to the measureI'll just do 2 different submissions, as I've said. By the way, if you don't like the idea, just tell me exactly what you think I should do instead (for example put which transition where).
Quote from: Zeila on March 30, 2017, 08:35:40 PMSome notes sound like they last longer, and others sound shorter. For example, the last note in m4 (RH) doesn't sound like it's staccato'd, whereas in the night version, most of the chords on beat 3 sound like they only last a quarter noteHmm... Listening again to the original music. Do you think the last note in m4 should be tenuto instead? I'll change it to that. Maybe you're right. The chords in the night version should be shorter indeed, you're definitely right on that.
Quote from: Zeila on March 30, 2017, 08:35:40 PMYou should show beat 3 instead of putting a dotted quarter note in places like m115. Err, unless there's some kind of exception I don't know aboutThat would apply to m9, m11, m13, m31, m44, m46, m48, m62 (in here I didn't use the dotted quarter note) and m66 (the bar after 67 don't count). I wrote it like that because I feel that the 4/4 in those bars is actually a 3/8 + 3/8 + 2/8. It would probably easier to read it, when written with the dotted quarter note. For example:
Quote from: Hero of Trains on March 30, 2017, 11:01:44 AMHello and welcome! You seem to be super on top of things, I look forward to hearing more from you!Thanks
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on March 30, 2017, 04:10:33 PMHello yello! Welcome to NSM! I'm E. Gadd. HopeThanks, I hope I willyou don't get scared awayyou enjoy your time here!
Quote from: Dudeman on March 30, 2017, 04:17:23 PMYou know, I used to jump in and greet newcomers, but now all the younger guys do it immediately and en masse so I never feel the need.I feel very honoured for this welcome then, thanks
But hi anyways, Pianoth.
Quote from: Latios212 on March 30, 2017, 04:01:21 PMHi, welcome to NSM! Whoa.. your name starts with "Piano"?Thanks It would be awesome, but no, unfortunately that's not my real name That's the artistic name I gave to myself, though, so I would prefer to be called "Pianoth".
Quote from: Olimar12345 on March 30, 2017, 04:03:43 PMWelcome to NinSheetMusic, Pianoth! I hope you enjoy your stay and I look forward to seeing your transcriptions!Thanks
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Quote from: Maelstrom on March 30, 2017, 11:25:24 AMPersonally, I would find it weird to print out a sheet and have it be less dense on the 2nd to last page than the last page. Because, you know, it's the last page. Anyway, this shouldn't be a problem anymore with the new spacingI've corrected the layout, I didn't need 7 pages after all. Now the last page has 5 systems.
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 30, 2017, 11:25:24 AMWooops. Guess I should listen before I say stuff. It's up to you on this, I guess.If it's up to me, I'll leave it like it is right now.
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 30, 2017, 11:25:24 AMOk, remembered how to do it. Go to the dynamic menu, edit>enclosure shape>opaque>line width to 0> fit it around the dynamic. That should do it.Thanks, although I realized how to do it before you told me.
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 30, 2017, 11:25:24 AMNice, that's always useful.Sometimes I feel that it's awesome when I use it. I listen to every instrument and I feel the need to write it.
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 30, 2017, 06:56:19 AMThis is really good!I also don't have much time now, so I'll try to answer briefly:
-I don't have a lot of time now, so here's a few things I noticed:
m1 and everywhere else that bassline appears - The 2nd eighth note should honestly be a staccato instead of a tenuto. If you were actually playing this in an orchestra with strings, I'd go with a tenuto, but a staccato makes more sense on a piano to give the quick feel it has in the original.
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 30, 2017, 06:56:19 AM-You could use a bit more space between systems - the rit. and accel. are close enough to the other bar an inexperienced player may not know which they belong to. Also, m32's mf is exactly halfway between the systems. It may be a good idea to give it a bit more breathing space.I've tried to squeeze the score in 6 pages exact (I don't like when the last page has fewer systems), that's why it doesn't seem there's enough space between the systems in some cases. Page 5 has 5 systems because 6 systems would have been just too messy (and the last page would have had 5 systems anyway). I guess I'll just try to fit everything in 7 pages so there's a lot more space between all the systems.
-Any reason why there's only 5 systems on page 5?
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 30, 2017, 06:56:19 AM-Despite the fact those random pauses sound wrong, as far as I can tell, they're in the original. The BoTW ost is just weird that way. Oh, and use this if the fade out is killing you for the ending.The version you linked is even worse, since the music just stops without any fade out. It's musically obscene, in my opinion And it wouldn't make sense on a piano either. So I'll stick to my version for that ending, unless you really feel like it should end suddently.
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 30, 2017, 06:56:19 AMNow, there's one fancy thing you can do in finale to fix your barline/expression collisions, but I can't remember the method at the moment. It involves editing a circle around the dynamic and making it opaque, borderless, and white. This makes it cover up the barline, thusly removing the collision. You could honestly use that.I know it's possible to do that, in fact I did it on the original sibelius score. I just didn't know how to do it on Finale. I'll search for info.
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 30, 2017, 06:56:19 AMAnyway, you did a great job.Thanks That's not the first transcription I've ever did, though. It's just the first I'm publishing here, I have quite a bit of experience. I always make sure that my transcriptions are 100% playable and readable, so I can play them myself.
Quote from: LuxraySpiral on March 30, 2017, 04:54:13 AMWelcome! I'm LuxraySpiral (Call me Lux ^^)Thanks Lux I guess I'll set it up when I'm done with at least 3 or 4 submissions.
You should consider setting up a Personal Arrangement Thread, so you can post all of your transcriptions. I can't wait to see them all!
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