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Two things to note:
I get that the tempo is decimal based, this is just temporary to keep the theme synced up with the original, as this is still (at some level) incomplete in my eyes regarding notes.

I'm posting this here as it is now to see if people could help out regarding any note suggestions or melody suggestions. I feel like it would be really nice to incorporate the mallets in some level to the melody, but I'm unsure of those notes.

Submissions / Re: [MUL] Celeste - "Quiet and Falling" by PlayfulPiano
« on: July 17, 2018, 01:13:04 PM »

There's one issue that I haven't figured out what to do with in the middle of the sheets, so it's a little ambiguous.

Outside of that, this should be already pretty close to finished, hopefully there aren't that many issues!

lolol ye
or just use... a different font................................... this is not hard

Then how will you deal with the backlog of current .mus / .mid / .pdf files on the site already with the current music font?

Unless Tras does something even more insane.

Help! / Re: An Help to MuseScore Formatting
« on: July 14, 2018, 08:29:55 PM »
jesus christ you're insane

So does this go musescore -> finale or finale -> musescore? Or both?

Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: July 14, 2018, 04:43:53 AM »
Regarding socialism, I mean, what people think of socialism and also what people generally want when talking about socialism are two drastically different things.

Most people who are progressives/left/"label themselves as socialists" really want something more akin to a social democracy, or the nordic model of capitalism.

Basically, large social welfare systems (free/very cheap cost of tuition for college / education / free healthcare / utilities etc.), where the money is funded through high taxes (usually upwards of at least 30% of your income). But, since you won't require to pay so much for what was mentioned before, you generally have a much larger disposable income (aka what you can spend on frivolous / entertaining means), since it won't be paid for that hospital visit or that college tuition or whatever.

It's one of the main reasonings why many european countries / countries with this social democratic system are considered the happiest / highest standards of living in the world.

Taxes are less "stealing your money" and more "chipping money into a pot that everyone gives and takes when there is a need". It really has nothing to do with "government control", and generally makes people's lives easier, across all economic classes.

Also, like, god, not everyone believes in it, so it shouldn't be forced onto those who don't believe in it. Hence why government should have a complete separation of religion and state, to stay unbiased regarding policies and stay completely neutral. What the US has regarding religion is seriously backwards, honestly.

Also, isn't this what 88bitmusic was sort of suggesting a while back in discord?

You guys bring up fair points, but don't really touch upon the drawbacks. It's not as easy as just allowing more file types...

Requiring MuseScore files in addition to Finale files
The idea of converting all of the on-site sheets into MuseScore format is (excuse my bluntness) insane, and realistically speaking will not happen. Aside from the sheer number of sheets we have on site, trying to keep MuseScore and Finale files in sync is unrealistic. XML files don't transfer over everything between the file types perfectly - far from it - and as such you wouldn't be able to keep everything synchronous. The reason we can offer PDF, MIDI, and MUS files consistently is because we have the Finale file as a master file and can instantly generate the other file types from it.

Allowing MuseScore files as an alternative to Finale files
More realistic than the above suggestion, but I'm still opposed to it. Trasdegi above mentioned one of my main points, which is consistency.In addition, you fail to take into account how these changes would affect quality control and maintenance. This site is built upon Finale files and all of the updaters are Finale experts, and part of the reason we have such consistently good sheets is that we're able to offer help and technical advice with Finale software.

So what can we do?
As Alti has brought up some time ago, we can step up efforts in terms of having people help convert non-Finale files into Finale format.
From what some people have said here and over discord, there is a group of people/updaters who have a lot of background in Musescore besides Finale, so it might be possible to have two groups (where some overlap), Finale updaters and Musescore updaters, both being experts in the programs they use. And with consistency, well, both Finale Notepad & Musescore are free and the requirement to download one more program honestly doesn't seem that big of a deal. And between both of them, their mechanics are not too varied, outside of one being a lot more limiting than the other.

I can see why people are against opening NSM to musescore, I mean, it's something that is new to the website and it will have some short term issues, but I can honestly see a huge potential in the long term to expand the site to a lot more people who have that background in musescore. The musescore website has so many amazing arrangers, and the people here especially know how many times this question gets asked, so just think if those questions didn't have to be asked in the first place later down the line, if that makes sense.

Anyways, thanks for the response Latios.

We all understand how Finale Notepad, the only free version people have access of the software, is very limited with what it can do, and requires outside help from people who own the full version to implement things they cannot do. Musescore, on the other hand, has features and customization that matches the full priced version of Finale, and it's also free. Not to mention that for some people, it's easier to use than Finale's software library.

Now, I get that the format system we have has been around for years, and I agree that previous formats shouldn't be changed. I just think that for those who don't have the means to get Finale or want to deal with the limits of Notepad, there should be an alternative formatting thread made for submissions that allow people to submit Musescore renditions.

Musescore has the ability to basically do most, if not all of the "guidelines" that the current format requires. Title with a subtitle for the game, listing the arranger and composer, having the copyright while including the site's URL, this can all be done with Musescore, maybe with a little more effort involved, but it would still be possible for basically the same format.

Now for submissions, we could replace the .musx format option with Musescore's .mscz format, or alternatively add a  .xml or .mxl format (which both finale and musescore can access and create), in which the .mus format can become optional.

We do have a bunch of ways where this possibility can work, I believe, so that is why I'm making this thread here. It would make submittor's lives easier, it would make it easier for updaters to not deal with recreating people's submissions or basically do the writing for them during their free time, and it would make this site more accessible for arrangers.

Hope this could be considered, -PlayfulPiano

I might try finishing my soft light arrangement and get it in here, if that's alright.

It's not on NSM yet as both my slots are currently filled.

I'm pretty sure that I hear some left/right hand differences on when the notes start, they're not synced on measure.
m4's C# starts a little bit before m4's D, for example. Same with m5.

Might be more instances of it later on though. I mean, it makes more sense how you wrote it as is Maelstrom, but if you want accuracy, then there is that small discrepancy.

m39-46's accents aren't needed, volume/sound is flat for the left hand.

m43 has an added voice/layer from the bass, would recommend adding it in.

Just noticed that some older changes aren't listed, idk what happened, but m27/m31 should have in the right hand a quarter note as the last beat (to not conflict with the following grace notes), and m67 should also have a rit.

I think that's it, but i'm gonna listen to the .mid to double check.

Edit: Did a double check, found the following problems:

  • Beat 3 of m93 right hand should be an e5 quarter note.
  • m118+ notes for left hand are meant to be a whole step down, as in G#/Ab not A#/Bb.

Now that should be it.

Replacing with Temporal Spire, will deal with later.

Submission Archive / Re: [MUL] Celeste - "Exhale" by PlayfulPiano
« on: June 19, 2018, 05:06:52 PM »
A final couple things:
- The bottom page (page 1) margin is very small is the top is huge. 
- The second/third page title is very close to the top of the page.

I understand that you only have Finale Notepad, so I can get these fixed for you when I get to my PC.
Ok, thank you.

Submission Archive / Re: [MUL] Celeste - "Exhale" by PlayfulPiano
« on: June 19, 2018, 03:23:28 AM »
ok, sorry this took a while.
in m23, 25, and 27, those 1st layer RH chords should just be octaves, not chords.

otherwise it looks great

Submission Archive / Re: [MUL] Celeste - "Exhale" by PlayfulPiano
« on: June 15, 2018, 01:22:39 AM »
Did some small changes again, based on how I normally played the theme. Ones of note would be m40-41's right hand, might be the only one actually.

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