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Title: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 22, 2017, 11:54:36 PM
So I had a thought as I was driving home. It occurred to me that the NSM website is a little counterintuitive when it comes to expressing to visitors the ways in which arrangements get on site. For instance, the About page says this: "All of the music is arranged by members of the site. We also have forums where members can request and submit sheets, or just discuss games, music, and anything else."

In this, the "also" prefacing the note about the forums seems to indicate that the forums are separate from the main site, and that it is members of the site who submit sheets, not members of the forum. Do you see the difference? I feel like it might be rather difficult for a newcomer to figure out where they're supposed to go if they want to contribute to the site.

This is answered to some degree in the FAQ, which has the questions "How can I request an arrangement?" and "I have arranged a song, how can I submit this?", both of which direct the reader to the forums.
However I know from experience that not everyone always reads FAQs... that's why they're FAQs.

I propose that there be an entirely new page created for the main site specifically, entitled "Contribution Resources" or "Contributing to NSM" or "How To Contribute" or something like that that basically says in big bold letters what you need to do. The formatting guidelines could be provided there verbatim from the forums, or linked to with big bold letters that say "if you don't follow all of these we won't accept your arrangement". The same page could also link to Finale's website, explain that we use MUS's and why we use MUS's (because that's a common question from new submitters, and "new submitters that ask that question" is a category that used to include me lmao), and also explain, in detail, how one can transfer an arrangement from an alternate music software into Finale. It could also link to the Templates thread, or have a direct download for the templates, to assist people in that.

Not only would this decrease the number of people who show up to the forums asking questions about how to do something (as it stands now, this information is rather scattered through multiple threads and sometimes not made immediately obvious), which would save everyone time, but it would also (presumably) decrease the number of unformatted arrangements that get submitted, saving both the arranger and the updaters - whose time is, as we know, short to begin with lmao - valuable time.

Further, I had a second idea for this theoretical page. Notice that one of my titles for this page was "Contribution Resources". The FAQ has the following question: "I have arranged a song, how can I submit this?" In my mind, this implies an air of "you've already done it and don't know what to do now". I know from personal experience that people coming on the site for the first time may wish to arrange music, but have literally no idea where to start with that.

Therefore, I propose that this page, in addition to including information about the submission process at NSM, also include links to outside resources that will assist with arranging. For instance: youtube-to-audio-file pages; audiostretch; the bpm calculator; etc. In my vision, it would also include some resources on music theory for people who may not have much theoretical training. Links or explanations, of key signature, of rhythm and meter and how to notate it properly, of chords and scales, of the question of enharmonics and knowing which ones to use, of articulations and ornaments, etc. It would also include some general information about standards of piano-writing so we don't end up with new arrangements asking the player to play two octaves in a single hand. If we wanted explanations, I would be totally willing to write these up; I could use a chance to test my ability to write about music theory, haha.

In addition, the proposed page would also include a handful of guides on how to arrange prepared by seasoned arrangers, geared toward the new arranger who isn't sure where to start with a piece. They would walk the reader through the process as they perceive it, and the reader could obviously read them all and get an idea of which one works best with their individual experience.

I feel like there's a lot of defeatism when it comes to arranging. Like, "oh, that's too complicated, I could never do that." I thought so once, when I was a teenager, and... uh... that's changed after probably over 100 arrangements. (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7217.0) It's easier than you think it will be, but I know it can be hard to figure out where to begin. By putting all the information in one place, and a place on the main site at that, I think it may encourage community interest and draw a new base to NSM.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Dudeman on April 23, 2017, 12:03:33 AM
This is a really great idea, and now that you've pointed it out, it is a little baffling that we don't have any indication on the main site itself of how to go about becoming a member/arranger. Although I think the theory resources and more advanced information of the like would best be relegated to some sort of "advanced" subpage (and I guess with all the ideas you've got there, a few subpages would be in order anyway), any sort of instruction on the main site would do wonders for reducing the number of new members with misformatted sheets. I am in complete support of this.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 23, 2017, 12:12:18 AM
Although I think the theory resources and more advanced information of the like would best be relegated to some sort of "advanced" subpage (and I guess with all the ideas you've got there, a few subpages would be in order anyway)

Yeah, that would be fine too. Just as long as it's somewhere publicly visible lol
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: NocturneOfShadow on April 23, 2017, 12:52:56 AM
Sure good idea
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: WaluigiTime64 on April 23, 2017, 03:40:19 AM
I'm all for this idea. Adding more to the main site would be nice, and this would help remove some consistent problems on the forums.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: daj on April 23, 2017, 05:26:06 AM
This is brilliant. And um, I'll be doing theory crash courses in time to come, so maybe I could help with that "advanced" part, hehe! ^^
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: InsigTurtle on April 23, 2017, 05:59:41 AM
As long as you include plenty of examples, I think it'll work out great
Also, maybe we're due for a main site redesign anyway, since the navigation is rather disgusting right now :P
So maybe this could be part of it
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 23, 2017, 01:53:33 PM
As long as you include plenty of examples, I think it'll work out great
Also, maybe we're due for a main site redesign anyway, since the navigation is rather disgusting right now :P
So maybe this could be part of it

tbh it kind of is lmao
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Yug_Guy on April 23, 2017, 07:53:22 PM
I am in complete support of this.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Sebastian on April 23, 2017, 07:58:43 PM
This is a fantastic idea. Speaking from experience it took me a year and a half after finding the site to open an account because I didn't even know about the forum side...let alone submit arrangements.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: LeviR.star on April 25, 2017, 08:08:55 PM
This is an excellent idea. We get too many new people that are scared away by as much as a single response, and try to contribute again.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: AmpharosAndy on April 25, 2017, 09:19:12 PM
This is a fantastic idea. Speaking from experience it took me a year and a half after finding the site to open an account because I didn't even know about the forum side...let alone submit arrangements.
I was exactly the same! But even once I got on the forums after that I still took ages to figure out how anything worked. Getting messages from some random frustrated latios man about submissions topics confused me further XD Only now I realise what he was going on about.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Dudeman on April 25, 2017, 09:24:26 PM
some random frustrated latios man
man, that guy was a jerk
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Pianoth on April 25, 2017, 10:06:37 PM
I agree with the idea, also considering I needed to search and read several pages before making my first submission. I think that the best thing that could be done is basically to put all NSM Resources (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=2223.0) on the main site, in some well-ordered way.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: mastersuperfan on April 25, 2017, 11:38:00 PM
man, that guy was a jerk

man, this guy is a hypocrite
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Dudeman on April 25, 2017, 11:43:44 PM
...oh

:/
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 26, 2017, 12:39:26 AM
So it looks like there's a decent amount of community interest. I haven't heard from Jamaha or Deku yet but if we wait for them we'll be here for years :vv so i figured we could start putting resources together now and just see what happens.

I didn't make this with the expectation that everyone else would do all the work. I plan to contribute, but I want to wait until after my exams are over to do any new big projects. However, I don't want this to lose momentum, which is why I'm posting. If you'd like to contribute, feel free to do so; if you don't want to, then don't, I can fill in the gaps.

I'm thinking - and this is totally open to community feedback - three pages: Contributing to NSM; Arranging Resources/Guides; Music Theory Resources. Page 2 could be combined with page 3 or nonexistent altogether. We'll just see how things turn out.

Here's my idea for the sections on each page, arranged as a table of contents.

Contributing to NSM:

1) Signing Up for NSM (Links to the forum and sign up page; any necessary information about the sign-up process. This also includes deciding on an arranger name.)
2) Formatting Your Arrangement (Basically an overview of formatting guidelines. Links to the Templates and "need Finale help" forum threads as well.)
---a) Why MUS? (An explanation of why it is we use MUS so that people stop asking that question too.)
---b) Importing From Other Software (A guide on getting scores from Musescore, Sibelius etc into Finale.)
3) Finding Composition Data (How to get accurate information about: composer, system, copyright company and year, and title. Includes "what to do if the composition is based on another piece".)
4) Submitting Your Arrangement (How to submit an arrangement. Includes standard submission etiquette, such as posting the soundtrack's Youtube video in the first comment.)
5) Feedback (This section is optional. Ideally it'd just be sort of an explanation of how to incorporate, and interpret, others' feedback. I say interpret because sometimes people have questions about like, "what do you mean measure 7 beat 1.75" etc. Could include common updater/musical terminology.)
6) FAQ

Arranging Resources/Guides:

1) Music Notation Software (An overview of software types, but with a note that all arrangements must be MUS in the end. Links to the websites of arranging software, and links to guides on how to use them.)
2) Music Manipulation Software (An overview of, with links to, stuff like Audacity, AudioStretch, etc.)
3) Conversion Resources (Resources or making Youtube videos into playable files.)
4) Miscellaneous Resources (BPM and any other resource anyone can think of that is useful for arranging.)
5) How to Write for Piano (General guidelines of piano arranging.)
6) Repeats (What to do about them. As this is video game music most of our music loops. Just basically says "you can loop or provide an optional ending", perhaps shows some of the various repeat schemas?)
7) Arranging Guides (Here, I'll take as many submissions as people want to submit! Basically, write up a "how-to" guide that takes the reader through your personal process of arranging. Different people work in different ways, so I want as many options as I can get (without being too many, of course... lol). Make sure you write in such a way that your reader will understand concepts with minimal music training. For instance, "figure out tonic by listening to the melody" may be easy for someone who knows traditional tonal function, but for someone who doesn't, you might need to be a little more specific in how they will identify tonic & translate that into a key signature. Don't make too many assumptions!)
8) FAQ

Music Theory Resources (can either be links to appropriate pages OR user-submitted guides):
1) Rhythm and Meter
---1a) Hypermeter and Measure Distribution (How to identify phrases and use them to create a matching measure distribution.)
2) Key Signatures
---2a) Modes and Altered Scales (For when the key signature as implied by tonic does not match what it is visible in the music. Can include diatonic modes (and their altered versions), jazz scales, whole tone/octatonic scales, etc.)
---2b) Shifting Keys (How to notate key changes if you don't plan to change the key signature: in other words, how to identify a shift in key and mark it with the appropriate accidentals.)
---2c) The Minor Mode (Relevant because there are still shitty sheets on site that are notating in the minor mode but have b1 rather than #7 as the leading tone. Wrong)
3) Notating Harmonies (An intro to triads, 7th chords, etc.)
4) Articulations and Ornaments (A basic overview.)
5) Accidentals (How to know when to use what accidentals. Should be fairly general: we don't need to explain the concept of German 6ths here in order to make sure arrangers know to use b3 and #4 and b6 on them, for instance.)

Can anyone think of anything else?
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Latios212 on April 26, 2017, 12:47:46 AM
This

This is a good plan
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Yug_Guy on April 26, 2017, 12:51:29 AM
There should probably be something about getting correct info for a song. Like proper name, composer, publisher, copyright year, etc. It'd probably end up being something similar to "Go to vgmdb lol", but it should at least be there.   

Otherwise, what you have so far looks fantastic!
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 26, 2017, 12:58:26 AM
There should probably be something about getting correct info for a song. Like proper name, composer, publisher, copyright year, etc. It'd probably end up being something similar to "Go to vgmdb lol", but it should at least be there.   

I was thinking it could be part of "formatting" but you're right that it should probably be separated. Added that section.

For everyone: If you'd like to start writing any of these sections, feel free to do so! Again, I promise I will help, but not until my last exam finishes on May 10 :p

Edit: Also, in the event that none of this ends up on site, I feel like the mods wouldn't be opposed to putting the info in stickies somewhere... :p
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Dudeman on April 26, 2017, 01:36:51 AM
Edit: Also, in the event that none of this ends up on site, I feel like the mods wouldn't be opposed to putting the info in stickies somewhere... :p
I mean, we technically have all that info in stickied threads, they're just scattered all over the forum and not easily accessible. If a full writeup gets written and Deku/Jamaha fall off the face of the earth, though, I wouldn't be against pinning it in an easy-to-locate spot and possibly un-sticky the various other threads (depending on how in-depth this gets).
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 26, 2017, 01:39:14 AM
If a full writeup gets written and Deku/Jamaha fall off the face of the earth, though, I wouldn't be against pinning it in an easy-to-locate spot and possibly un-sticky the various other threads (depending on how in-depth this gets).

That's what I was thinking, I should have clarified.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 26, 2017, 01:41:26 AM
I've been pseudo-following this topic and support the cause.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: InsigTurtle on April 26, 2017, 01:44:00 AM
I'd suggest maybe a tidbit on chord voicing, just for the cases where using the original voicing makes it difficult to play?
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 26, 2017, 01:55:47 AM
I'd suggest maybe a tidbit on chord voicing, just for the cases where using the original voicing makes it difficult to play?

That could maybe be covered under piano writing.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 26, 2017, 01:57:18 AM
Actually (now that I've actually read the thread) I think the "contributing to nsm" is what I support. The arranging resources/guidelines/music theory resources seems like a mixture of overkill and repetition (since we have all that stuff stickied in the help board). Maybe just a link to that as a separate bullet would be more concise?
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 26, 2017, 02:02:35 AM
The arranging resources/guidelines/music theory resources seems like a mixture of overkill and repetition (since we have all that stuff stickied in the help board).

The arranging guidelines I think need to be as part of "contributing to NSM". People simply do not read them on the forums. I'm open to the idea of making the other resources less prominent (as long as they are indicated somewhere on the main site) but again I don't have final say so, community thoughts appreciated.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: NocturneOfShadow on April 26, 2017, 02:40:14 AM
That looks a bit overkill to me but step by step photos on using the NSM panel would go a long way I think
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 26, 2017, 02:54:37 AM
I think the music theory part is unnecessary. Everyone will get that kind of advice from the people checking their sheets.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Zunawe on April 26, 2017, 03:03:13 AM
People simply do not read them on the forums.
Agreed. There are few people on the internet who will seek out information and guidelines before contributing to a forum or project. If people have to link to the formatting guidelines every time a new contributor submits an arrangement, something is wrong.

If we're going to have a set of rules that sheets must follow, those rules need to be indicated to anybody who wants to contribute before they try submitting. Given that the majority of new forum members probably come from the main site, a guidelines page should be right there with "how to contribute," catching most if not all of that traffic. At the minimum, the NSM Panel should have direct links to all the formatting and quality guidelines every time somebody clicks "make a new submission."

But we should definitely have a signpost that says "come here if you want to contribute," and when people go to that signpost, they should be handed a pamphlet that details the most important requirements and suggestions for getting something accepted. And then maybe there are optional pamphlets that give more in-depth help and tips for those who want it.

Ninja'd
I think the music theory part is unnecessary. Everyone will get that kind of advice from the people checking their sheets.
True, there are some aspects to theory that come from experience and education, but it's not like it would hurt to have some simpler relevant stuff compiled in the place people will be looking for help anyway. It's not meant to be a gate; it's a convenient place for experienced musicians to dump helpful knowledge. There are arguments to be made about whether that's a job for general forum topics though.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 26, 2017, 03:06:44 AM
The arranging guidelines I think need to be as part of "contributing to NSM". People simply do not read them on the forums. I'm open to the idea of making the other resources less prominent (as long as they are indicated somewhere on the main site) but again I don't have final say so, community thoughts appreciated.

A link to a thread with such info seems much more appropriate imo.

I think the music theory part is unnecessary. Everyone will get that kind of advice from the people checking their sheets.

I agree.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Latios212 on April 26, 2017, 03:24:46 AM
I disagree about its irrelevance; I can say from my experience making my first sheet and seeing people attempt their first sheets that there is a lot that could be said that could help people before there is even anything to share.

In other words, among other benefits, it could help beginners flailing about wildly trying to make their first sheet, and hopefully steer them in the right direction before they go and make everything that could possibly go wrong go wrong.

Not to mention that there doesn't really seem to be a one-stop-shop reference guide on the help board for either basic or complicated things. Like if I had to go search for what it was that people said about modes and key signatures again I'd have to go digging.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: ThatHiddenCharacter on April 26, 2017, 03:27:10 AM
make everything that could possibly go wrong go wrong.
Ah... Murphy's Law. Horrible thing, really. Anyway, I agree with Latios.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 26, 2017, 03:30:09 AM
That's way too much for the main site though. If anything, there should just be a link to a topic like I said so that it can be regularly edited and maintained etc.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Latios212 on April 26, 2017, 03:31:47 AM
Oh, having them on the forums instead of the main site is fine by me. I was just disputing what I thought Slow said about them not needing to exist at all.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: LeviR.star on April 26, 2017, 03:36:33 AM
I've been working since January the 27th to bring at least one BS-X sheet to the site, and it finally happened. If it took that long, I think this is an awful too much work for poor Deku.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: NocturneOfShadow on April 26, 2017, 03:49:25 AM
Man I need to learn how this forum is set up
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Deku Trombonist on April 26, 2017, 05:05:23 AM
That's way too much for the main site though. If anything, there should just be a link to a topic like I said so that it can be regularly edited and maintained etc.


We've got something in the works. Don't worry, it won't take a year.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Dudeman on April 26, 2017, 05:11:29 AM
We've got something in the works. Don't worry, it won't take a year.
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Pianoth on April 26, 2017, 08:45:34 AM
I think we should create one or two concise pages, containing only the necessary information, that is:
Any other tips on arranging in general, and music theory stuff, must be either inserted in a concise way on the first page, or just with a link to the forum, or both, with the forum having more information. We must be careful though: the more information you give to users on that page, the less likely they would have patience and learn everything before submitting. That's why I think doing more than two pages wouldn't work.

I conceptually agree with Olimar: many things would be learned quickly on the first submissions. But a simple, concise page would help a lot, I think. In fact, I don't think that writing these pages would be a problem; the main issue is selecting what to say or not. The plan proposed by Altissimo would be great if we wanted to update the NSM Resources on the forum, but it would be just too much for the site.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Dekkadeci on April 26, 2017, 12:22:05 PM
For another topic to cover, I think this is a great idea:

Submitting Scores When You Don't Want to Pay For Finale
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 26, 2017, 12:27:54 PM

We've got something in the works. Don't worry, it won't take a year.

if i may ask what is planning to be put on the main site versus the forums

I'll admit that arranging resources and music theory resources may be better put on the forum but I in fact strongly disagree with Olimar's view that the formatting guidelines should simply be linked to. I think he underestimates human incompetence. I think they need to be much more prominent than a simple link within a page, or else it will not change anything.

edit: also do you need help on any of it
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Pianoth on April 26, 2017, 12:35:51 PM
But I in fact strongly disagree with Olimar's view that the formatting guidelines should simply be linked to. I think he underestimates human incompetence. I think they need to be much more prominent than a simple link within a page, or else it will not change anything.
Yeah, that's why I also think we need a very concise but clear page (or even two pages, but not more than that I would say) with as much information as possible, but as short as possible (otherwise, most people won't contribute because of tl;dr).
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 26, 2017, 02:33:51 PM
I in fact strongly disagree with Olimar's view that the formatting guidelines should simply be linked to. I think he underestimates human incompetence. I think they need to be much more prominent than a simple link within a page, or else it will not change anything.

Altissimo... never did I say that:

Actually (now that I've actually read the thread) I think the "contributing to nsm" is what I support. The arranging resources/guidelines/music theory resources seems like a mixture of overkill and repetition (since we have all that stuff stickied in the help board). Maybe just a link to that as a separate bullet would be more concise?


Contributing to NSM:

1) Signing Up for NSM (Links to the forum and sign up page; any necessary information about the sign-up process. This also includes deciding on an arranger name.)
2) Formatting Your Arrangement (Basically an overview of formatting guidelines. Links to the Templates and "need Finale help" forum threads as well.[/i])
---a) Why MUS? (An explanation of why it is we use MUS so that people stop asking that question too.)
---b) Importing From Other Software (A guide on getting scores from Musescore, Sibelius etc into Finale.)
3) Finding Composition Data (How to get accurate information about: composer, system, copyright company and year, and title. Includes "what to do if the composition is based on another piece".)
4) Submitting Your Arrangement (How to submit an arrangement. Includes standard submission etiquette, such as posting the soundtrack's Youtube video in the first comment.)
5) Feedback (This section is optional. Ideally it'd just be sort of an explanation of how to incorporate, and interpret, others' feedback. I say interpret because sometimes people have questions about like, "what do you mean measure 7 beat 1.75" etc. Could include common updater/musical terminology.)
6) FAQ

*Obligatory reading is difficult comment*
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 26, 2017, 02:38:49 PM
You then said "arranging guidelines" should be separate. I think we might be having a miscommunication as to what you mean by arranging guidelines.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 26, 2017, 02:42:30 PM
Arranging Resources/Guides

...

Music Theory Resources (can either be links to appropriate pages OR user-submitted guides)

You had three sections. I was saying that only the first section seems necessary for the main site and that the other two (shown above) should go on the forums.

How are you confused about this?
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on April 26, 2017, 02:46:43 PM
i'm not now
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Dudeman on April 26, 2017, 05:14:00 PM
Pianoth, what on earth do you mean by "synthetic"?
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Pianoth on April 26, 2017, 05:21:30 PM
Short, concise, terse. Uhm, I thought that word meant that in English, I was wrong apparently, interestingly enough ("Sintetico" in Italian means both "concise" and "artificial"). Anyway, that's what I meant; I guess I'll modify my post to make it clear enough.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: NocturneOfShadow on April 26, 2017, 06:44:57 PM
Synthetic means artificial here, it doesn't have the connotation of 'compact' that Italian does apparently
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Dudeman on April 26, 2017, 07:07:18 PM
Ohhhhhh I totally forgot that Pianoth is Italian, that explains it. :P
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Pianoth on April 26, 2017, 08:46:29 PM
Synthetic means artificial here, it doesn't have the connotation of 'compact' that Italian does apparently
Yeah, but it's not like I've checked every word I learned in English in the dictionary, I just assumed it had the same meanings hahaha... I checked after Dudeman pointed out, so I corrected myself.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on April 27, 2017, 01:12:38 AM
Hmmm... I guess that could imply that artificial things make things more concise than their natural counterparts?
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on May 10, 2017, 04:55:26 AM
All right well I don't know when the main site overhaul is happening but in the meantime maybe we could consolidate some of the stickies into 1 place with a lot of info??
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: JDMEK5 on May 10, 2017, 05:19:59 AM
I just wanna say (cuz I don't think I have yet) that a long time ago, I actually did have a "Music Theory Q/A (or something of the rather)" topic for theory from basic simple stuff to more complicated stuff. It never reached completion persay, but it did have some stuff in there that I had actually written out (articles on keys, rhythms, etc iirc). Might be worthwhile to dig that up perhaps. It may help if I'm understanding everything in this topic correctly.
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: Altissimo on May 10, 2017, 01:24:46 PM
I just wanna say (cuz I don't think I have yet) that a long time ago, I actually did have a "Music Theory Q/A (or something of the rather)" topic for theory from basic simple stuff to more complicated stuff. It never reached completion persay, but it did have some stuff in there that I had actually written out (articles on keys, rhythms, etc iirc). Might be worthwhile to dig that up perhaps. It may help if I'm understanding everything in this topic correctly.

Maybe the community could help finish it, too?
Title: Re: Contribution Resources on the Main Site
Post by: JDMEK5 on May 28, 2017, 04:25:56 AM
Maybe the community could help finish it, too?
That was originally the hope but I mean, yeah whatever you guys want.