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Title: [DELETED] [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Zeta on February 05, 2017, 01:27:52 AM
Submission Information:

Series: Super Smash Bros.
Game: Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U
Console: Multiplatform
Title: Opening
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Tobbeh99 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3658)
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on February 05, 2017, 01:31:05 AM
Thought I might submit this song even though of my comment. I still hang around here, from time to time. And don't think that this arrangement is perfect, and that it needs some "fine-tuning" and maybe some discussions concerning various things before it is ready to go. So that's why the decision.

-I edited the ending so that it is now much easier to read. I also think the notation fits better with the rest of the arrangement.

Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on February 19, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
bump-di-i-bump.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: JDMEK5 on May 10, 2017, 04:49:21 AM
It's very nice indeed. Just a couple things I can give you right off the top:

-Measure 17, RH: You've got some augmentation dots running over the natural sign here. Maybe spread that out a tad.
-Measure 23, both hands, beats 2 and 3: Rhythm here I'm pretty certain is two dotted eighths followed by a standard eighth (notated correctly of course). I could've sworn (up till now) that this rhythm was in the previous few measures as well, but it's more debatable in those cases and I can't say that you're wrong with the way you have them there. Here though, I think I've got enough surety in myself to conclude as I do.
-^Above comment also applies to measure 31.
-Section E, melody: There are places in here where the melody has some anticipations that are lacking in your score. Find them and incorporate them please.

But overall a fabulous job; well done.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Maelstrom on September 01, 2017, 02:30:23 AM
Bump for arranger. Are you still interested, tobbeh?
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on September 04, 2017, 02:00:23 AM
It's very nice indeed. Just a couple things I can give you right off the top:

-Measure 17, RH: You've got some augmentation dots running over the natural sign here. Maybe spread that out a tad.
-Measure 23, both hands, beats 2 and 3: Rhythm here I'm pretty certain is two dotted eighths followed by a standard eighth (notated correctly of course). I could've sworn (up till now) that this rhythm was in the previous few measures as well, but it's more debatable in those cases and I can't say that you're wrong with the way you have them there. Here though, I think I've got enough surety in myself to conclude as I do.
-^Above comment also applies to measure 31.
-Section E, melody: There are places in here where the melody has some anticipations that are lacking in your score. Find them and incorporate them please.

But overall a fabulous job; well done.

m.17: emm no. What are you talking about. The natural sign is on the left side of the notes, and the dots are on the right side.
m.23: Hmm kind of hard to hear but m.31 is definitely what you said. I'll take a look at it. 
Section E: Emm what have I missed?
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Latios212 on September 04, 2017, 09:10:04 PM
Here's some stuff you missed from a while back:

- m. 32, molto...? Disconnect beats 3-4?

- Section E: seems kind of off. First, the timing is off for some of the notes. The entirety of what you have for m. 46 should occur one eighth note earlier, you can hear those notes don't fall on the beat (listen to the drums). I'm also not sure what the cross-staff slur is supposed to mean in 47, and in general I'm having a hard time visually following the line in the original in your sheet. It also seems like there's a note missing on m. 47 beat 4.

And yeah, what JD said about measure 23.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on September 04, 2017, 10:14:49 PM
No I don't agree on m.23. I listened to it again and I feel like the strings play very "straight". But the drums do some triplet like rhythm, probably two dotted 8ths+8th (as you guys said). So therefore it sounds almost like a 3v2 poly-rhythm.

And I looked at the E section and it seems as if the rhythm was incorrect.
Is this one better/correct?
(http://i.imgur.com/reuUx1K.png)
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Latios212 on September 04, 2017, 10:18:09 PM
Just regarding section E for now: Yep, that image contains the right rhythms.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on September 04, 2017, 10:32:05 PM
Uploaded new files, with some changes.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on September 12, 2017, 08:27:53 PM
Anything more?
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Maelstrom on September 27, 2017, 03:55:13 AM
This song has .... issues. Notes and rhythms feel really off in places even without comparing it directly to the original. Yet, there's so many good ideas here, that I really want to see this sheet shine. That's why I'm not actually going to tell you where those places are. This song needs to be edited, and hard, but not by an updater. There are problems in here you can pick out and solve without us, and there are some mistakes in this song that should have been caught long before the submitting it. Reviewing on this sheet will continue only after these problems are addressed, and addressed completely.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on September 27, 2017, 01:25:13 PM
You're comment provides literally no clue at all where the problems are. I thought I had it all done, and you're saying there are lots of issues, which I'm supposed to see by myself? You can at least specify where the problems are, so that I can take a closer look at it.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Maelstrom on November 06, 2017, 04:11:18 AM
That's the point. Compare it to the origina again. There are so many nitpicky error that non-musicians could pick them out instantly. There's a lot of rhythms that are just wrong and chords that sound distinctly off. The reason I'm not being specific is so that the updaters don't do all the work for you. What keeps happening is the updaters will point out a few examples of errors, and you will fix them, but only those errors, and never checking to see if similar problems might exist elsewhere. By not telling you exactly where everything is, I'm hoping you can learn to check your arrangements better yourself. It's your sheet.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on November 06, 2017, 01:21:14 PM
Yet again I don't see the errors. I've made this arrangement as perfect as I can. And I don't even know what errors you're talking about. Can you at least give me an example of a rhythm that is wrong, or a chord that is wrong? Else nothing is really going to happen with this arrangement as you just keep on saying "do it yourself, find the errors yourself" and keep saying "I don't know where the errors are".
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: LeviR.star on November 06, 2017, 03:22:39 PM
Perhaps you should listen to the original and carefully check it section by section, Tobbeh? That might things easier for both the updaters and you.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: mastersuperfan on November 07, 2017, 09:39:47 PM
Not sure if Mael would want me to mention them yet, so I won't, but there are indeed many striking errors in here...

Perhaps you should listen to the original and carefully check it section by section, Tobbeh? That might things easier for both the updaters and you.

This is what Mael is trying to get you to do, and this is what would probably help. Start with the rhythms, maybe--those are the most distinctly glaring parts that need to be fixed (at least to me, because I identified more inaccuracies than I can count on two hands just by glancing at the PDF briefly).
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: LeviR.star on November 07, 2017, 10:15:44 PM
Look, Tobbeh; we know this is a tricky and long sheet, and we respect your effort put into it, but attempting such a song is a commitment at this point. It's not just some sheet you feed to the updaters so they can revise it for you.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on November 07, 2017, 11:12:07 PM
I've looked through and re-listened through this over and over... but I guess I do it again.. sigh
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: blueflower999 on December 06, 2017, 05:42:09 AM
Tobbeh, non-musician here: I really like your arrangement, but there are definitely a few rhythms that sound off, especially in the second half. Did you make any changes recently that should be put in the OP?
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Tobbeh99 on December 06, 2017, 12:08:43 PM
Tobbeh, non-musician here: I really like your arrangement, but there are definitely a few rhythms that sound off, especially in the second half. Did you make any changes recently that should be put in the OP?
You talk about "the second half". From which point do you mean. From section C, or D? Nice that you're more specific, helps me a lot.
Title: Re: [MUL] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U - "Opening" by Tobbeh99
Post by: Maelstrom on January 23, 2018, 12:30:06 AM
Feel free to resubmit this upon return with the proper edits