please do not try these at home.
there's a whole bunch of deep stuff as to why i decided to do this, but i'm currently laughing at what i'm seeing on my screen because the whole writing process was filled with high and stupidity and stuff.
| #1 | Battle (Champion)! | Pokemon DPPt | Youtube Release (310716) (https://youtu.be/lvmv58uL4S4) |
| #2 | Title Theme and Victory Theme | Overwatch | Youtube Release (131116) (https://youtu.be/Hgkb-T4ElZU) |
#1 - Battle (Champion)! (Pokemon DPPt)I have no idea what I just did, but that was really fun. So dang fun.
I think this here is now my all-time favorite arrangement of yours to date. I'm always curious how people approach and re-interpret material that is inherently unfit for the mechanics of piano (pitch bends, long sustained tones, UNPITCHED PERCUSSION, etc.), and you've more than impressed me. Bravo.
Quote from: Bespinben on July 31, 2016, 03:00:24 AMI think this here is now my all-time favorite arrangement of yours to date. I'm always curious how people approach and re-interpret material that is inherently unfit for the mechanics of piano (pitch bends, long sustained tones, UNPITCHED PERCUSSION, etc.), and you've more than impressed me. Bravo.
Ahh, humbled. So, very humbled. <3
Thank you so much for your kind comment, glad you enjoyed it~ ^^
Erm, I might go a little more into detail about my take on rhythmic stuff once I do a few more of these, but in essence, the focus throughout the arranging process (strengthened by sugar and caffeine) was rhythmic pulse and forward momentum. A while before this I was going full-out electronic ambient, soooo...yeah. Rhythm was and still is really integral to the construction of a work, and for a piece like this is takes precedence before melodic texture. Yep, pretty much :)
Your video (at least the first some seconds of it that I caught) reminds me of my Galacta Knight piano transcription and how you need crazy fast hands just to nail the solo (how Jonny Atma pulls the solo off, then proceeds to perform his own solo on top of his original rearrangement here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvRm6Aub37g)...he actually spends some seconds alternating hands in fast keyboard passages, that's how he pulls it off).
There are other piano arrangements of crazy fast VGM--there's a decent (but inaccurate) one of Super Meat Boy's "Battle of Little Slugger" in here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drrKxH1bUjU), and yes, that's a human performer playing the fast notes.
...Stuff like this is probably why I don't tend to simplify the melody lines of my transcriptions--as long as someone who can play Liszt can pull it off, I'm convinced the transcription is playable. That I can't play Liszt or some of my own pieces at the correct speed doesn't help.
Amazing job! It sounds so good that I want to try to play it! (but it'll probably kill my hands since I can barely even play the Entertainer :P)
Two thoughts:
1. I thought the song was awesome all the way through! XD for the first 25 measures, I thought the LH was a lot less menacing, even empty (comparatively speaking :P), and then the sheet got to m26. Sweet merciful crap. That went from 35 to 170 over the course of a transition between two measures XD
2. What would all of you do if, at some point, you see a video I uploaded of me (successfully) performing this piece?
Well good luck with that because I think even calling it 'theoretically posible" is a stretch.
Well one thing you can do is play it at like 10 bpm and then speed the video up!
Quote from: FireArrow on August 03, 2016, 12:10:59 PMWell good luck with that because I think even calling it 'theoretically posible" is a stretch.
Agrees. Is there even a pianist who could play those double-note sextuplets and septuplets in the beginning at 190 bpm!?
Quote from: Latios212 on August 03, 2016, 01:10:23 PMWell one thing you can do is play it at like 10 bpm and then speed the video up!
lol!
Quote from: Latios212 on August 03, 2016, 01:10:23 PMWell one thing you can do is play it at like 10 bpm and then speed the video up!
Shhhhhhh... That's what I was banking on...
Ahh, thank you all for your comments <3 You're all amazing :)
Now to talk about some stuff, hehe:
Quote from: DocDoom2 on August 03, 2016, 07:54:47 AMAmazing job! It sounds so good that I want to try to play it! (but it'll probably kill my hands since I can barely even play the Entertainer :P)
Quote from: FireArrow on August 03, 2016, 12:10:59 PMWell good luck with that because I think even calling it 'theoretically posible" is a stretch.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on August 03, 2016, 02:01:20 PMAgrees. Is there even a pianist who could play those double-note sextuplets and septuplets in the beginning at 190 bpm!?
Some extra info! Hehe.
The score is designed only with these three conditions:
1. Only four parts can be active at any time.
2. The largest harmonic (play at the same time) interval is a major 9th (octave + another key).
3. You need nothing more than two hands and ten fingers to play everything.
So the main kind of "impossible device" here is that there's a flourish and melody in the same part, and while the harmonic intervals are okay, the flourishes go everywhere and you need to make insane leaps in split-second timings to catch the next melody-flourish dyad. Hehe.
Is this impossible? Not really. But it's far from Lisztian (Liszt actually intended to play his own etudes). It borders on unpianistic, actually, but it's still within the bounds of "theoretically possible" :)
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on August 03, 2016, 10:08:20 AMTwo thoughts:
1. I thought the song was awesome all the way through! XD for the first 25 measures, I thought the LH was a lot less menacing, even empty (comparatively speaking :P), and then the sheet got to m26. Sweet merciful crap. That went from 35 to 170 over the course of a transition between two measures XD
First of all thank you so much for that, you made my day and the days ahead <3
The opening should have sounded less intense, but the emptiness was a tiny compositional kinda-fault on my end.
The track uses open 5ths over triads but suggests G-sharp minor, and that makes it a little tough to score (complicated shit here haha). The left-hand accompaniment patten in that section is almost-exact, actually, so it's all open 5ths. The only way I suggested G-sharp minor was through those subtle middle-voice single-note tremolos in the right hand, hehe ^^
Quote2. What would all of you do if, at some point, you see a video I uploaded of me (successfully) performing this piece?
Quote from: Latios212 on August 03, 2016, 01:10:23 PMWell one thing you can do is play it at like 10 bpm and then speed the video up!
Even if you pull this off using Latios' technique, I will instantly send two hundred bucks to your bank account haha. Is it possible? Yeah. But I assure you you'll still need to practice the score, and you'll need to practice it until you want to kill yourself and burn the sheet alive bwahahahahahahaha
That, and you become my instant hero! <3
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Once again thank you for all your comments guys, love ya all :)
p.s.
Oh yes! I'll be doing another of these at some point in the next two months, hehe. I'm currently undecided on what sheet to...erm, make changes to, but if you've got ideas I'd really appreciate them! ^^ If you have a sheet that you want bastardised that'll be awesome too, it would be a cool collab <3
Do Super Mario Sunshine, I can provide you any sheet if it isn't already on-site
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on August 03, 2016, 08:57:46 PMDo Super Mario Sunshine, I can provide you any sheet if it isn't already on-site
Hehe no need to be discrete ;)
Taking this to PMs, still taking suggestions~
#2 - Title and Victory Themes (Overwatch)This one involved a little bit of creativity and, sigh. Forced gaming. Of course I had to do it. Like, I just needed that footage. Oh well~
Enjoy, guys! ^^
THIS IS AWESOME
I love this kind of music, loud and driving
The Overwatch "theoretically possible" arrangement doesn't look 100% possible to me when it comes to bars like Bar 4 (I need to either use pedal or not play the tied 8th note in the left hand), Bar 17 (liberal use of pedal to the rescue for the LH), Bar 104 (again, I need to either use pedal or behave as if each LH quarter note is only a sextuplet-version 16th note), and quite likely more.
In second reflection, it does look like Cynthia's battle theme does suffer from some of the same problems (such as Bar 28, where the LH either requires pedal or forces me to let go of the long bass LH notes early). Maybe the tremolos in the Overwatch LH made its problems with theoretical playability really obvious.
Shame--they do sound like arrangements that could have come out of Georges Cziffra's mind (or Vladimir Horowitz's on a good day).
Mmm.. it's still pretty impossible. Stretches aren't the only thing that make something impossible. Rapid intervals frequently require the re-positioning of your hand and it's just not possible to do it at that speed. The double thirds at around a minute in or so are also damn near unplayable.
You two are totally missing the point... xD
Quote from: braixen1264 on November 13, 2016, 09:04:12 AMTHIS IS AWESOME
I love this kind of music, loud and driving
Ahaha, thank you! ^^ Love this kind of music too, whoop~
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 13, 2016, 03:08:18 PMThe Overwatch "theoretically possible" arrangement doesn't look 100% possible to me when it comes to bars like Bar 4 (I need to either use pedal or not play the tied 8th note in the left hand), Bar 17 (liberal use of pedal to the rescue for the LH), Bar 104 (again, I need to either use pedal or behave as if each LH quarter note is only a sextuplet-version 16th note), and quite likely more.
In second reflection, it does look like Cynthia's battle theme does suffer from some of the same problems (such as Bar 28, where the LH either requires pedal or forces me to let go of the long bass LH notes early). Maybe the tremolos in the Overwatch LH made its problems with theoretical playability really obvious.
Shame--they do sound like arrangements that could have come out of Georges Cziffra's mind (or Vladimir Horowitz's on a good day).
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on November 13, 2016, 03:23:06 PMMmm.. it's still pretty impossible. Stretches aren't the only thing that make something impossible. Rapid intervals frequently require the re-positioning of your hand and it's just not possible to do it at that speed. The double thirds at around a minute in or so are also damn near unplayable.
Ooh, someone looked at the score over the gameplay in the ackgroubd! Yay ^^
So um, some of the youtube comments I get have similar vibes to your two replies, hehe. To answer that I'll conveniently quote what Lat said:
Quote from: Latios212 on November 13, 2016, 03:25:08 PMYou two are totally missing the point... xD
Except not really. At its core this video (and this style of videos, really) emulates so called "black midis" and "impossible scores", which are often made to be blatantly unplayable using huge chord slams, excessive layering, and basically whatever anyone with no experience knows cannot be humanly played. I um, thought it was pretty distasteful and harsh in general, so this is my take on it. Difficulty through blatant unplayability is different from difficulty through intricacy, and these are extreme examples of over-intricacy.
So this score is meant to be humanly impossible - only possible in theory. It follows the rules that you need to follow when you write for someone with two hands, but disregards pianistic-ness (pianisticity??).
That being said, the fact that people are taking a closer look at the score and analysing my concept means I've fulfilled my initial purpose while, hopefully, giving you guys something entertaining to watch :)
Hmm, maybe I should explain what I meant by that, haha.
These appeal to me because of... it's hard to place a finger on it. The limitation to the way things would sound on piano and to specific note ranges, yet freedom from the reasonable playability constraints... The creation of a musical texture using the piano's sounds without being limited to the way... people... play things.
So the way I see these it's more of an emulation of VGM on a piano rather than something that's supposed to even be thought about attempting... just look at the sheet! (And the disclaimers.) I love the way daj emulates the drumbeats in Cynthia's theme and complements the melody with the crazy runs. It's a great listening experience. It's not hard for the sake of being hard (like black midis, ugh, people just throw notes everywhere for the sake of making the synthesia playback more colorful) but for the sake of making it sound full... without resorting to multiple instruments.
And it's nice to see an arrangement like this on a traditional 2-staff piano sheet instead of on Synthesia, or spread across like 8 staves. It's fun to look at, haha.
I hope I interpreted your goals right? xD Or if not, I just explained why I'm enjoying these arrangements ^^