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Title: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Tobbeh99 on January 27, 2016, 09:45:37 AM
Hi I have an idea for the submission system, concerning smaller formatting replacements.

So you only get 2 submissions, most people probably will use them wisely, submit their best arrangements, or from a series they think need more arrangements, or replacing a really bad arrangement. The thing is that few people probably want to spend them on smaller replacements (revised replacements).

So my idea is that we first of: to divide the submissions board into 2 boards. One for regular submissions and bigger replacements, and one for smaller replacements. Secondly: keep the submission count at 2 for regular and bigger replacements, and give people 1-2 submissions for smaller replacements.

What this does is that it encourages people to fix/touch up sheets on site that are already fine in musical terms. Rather than now when people often consider submitting other more important arrangements, and arrangements with mediocre formatting will remain as they are.   
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Altissimo on January 27, 2016, 09:48:31 AM
Altissimo likes this.
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 27, 2016, 10:52:19 AM
Not really a new idea, but a worthy one to consider. Keep in mind though, replacement or not, that still raises the submission counter. For something like this to succeed, I predict we will need to end another focus. Perhaps we can move to having only one "Official Project" at a time, alternating between fixing the sheets and new arrangements at the choice of the community.
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: BrainyLucario on January 27, 2016, 11:03:51 AM
I feel like My submission led to this topic..
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Altissimo on January 27, 2016, 11:07:48 AM
I've suggested before something like this and my proposed solution was that non-updaters (or like, special "secondary updaters") could be responsible for accepting formatting related nonsense since that doesn't require as much musical understanding like the updaters have
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: BrainyLucario on January 27, 2016, 11:09:17 AM
so people like Sebastian?
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 27, 2016, 11:15:05 AM
Quote from: Altissimo on January 27, 2016, 11:07:48 AMI've suggested before something like this and my proposed solution was that non-updaters (or like, special "secondary updaters") could be responsible for accepting formatting related nonsense since that doesn't require as much musical understanding like the updaters have

Yeah, but it would be in those situations that musical errors would go unchecked. Better to just handle it the normal way, really.
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Altissimo on January 27, 2016, 11:22:09 AM
but see:

Quote from: Tobbeh99 on January 27, 2016, 09:45:37 AMWhat this does is that it encourages people to fix/touch up sheets on site that are already fine in musical terms. Rather than now when people often consider submitting other more important arrangements, and arrangements with mediocre formatting will remain as they are.

It wouldn't necessarily be musical errors. It's just formatting and maybe readability
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 27, 2016, 12:01:43 PM
But that is only a portion of the reason we replace arrangements (and the smaller one, at that).
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: TheMarioPianist on January 27, 2016, 12:12:26 PM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on January 27, 2016, 12:01:43 PMBut that is only a portion of the reason we replace arrangements (and the smaller one, at that).

 Here is a non formatting reason. (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/60)
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Tobbeh99 on January 27, 2016, 12:19:42 PM
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on January 27, 2016, 12:12:26 PM Here is a non formatting reason. (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/60)

I can use the entire Zelda: Oracle of Seasons/Ages section as example. pno.'s, too many pages than necessary, wrong text sizes and styles, wrong enharmonics, lack of dynamic etc.
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 27, 2016, 01:26:49 PM
 Still, it doesn't hurt to get an updater's approval on these things (that's kind of our job). If anything, it will just yield a better arrangement.
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: BrainyLucario on January 29, 2016, 11:45:50 AM
Who all can accept submissions anyway?
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 29, 2016, 11:54:47 AM
Updaters.
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Sebastian on January 29, 2016, 11:56:48 AM
This is literally the same idea I brought up a while ago. Good idea, Tobbeh!

Quote from: Olimar12345 on January 27, 2016, 10:52:19 AMPerhaps we can move to having only one "Official Project" at a time, alternating between fixing the sheets and new arrangements at the choice of the community.
I like this idea. In my opinion, we don't need tow arrangement projects going at a time. We could, as Olimar suggests, alternate between fixing and regular arrangement projects or we could do away with fixing the sheets since we would have a replacement board. I don't know how others feel about that.
Title: Re: Idea for submission system for smaller replacements
Post by: Zunawe on January 30, 2016, 01:54:36 PM
I've considered this a number of times as well. I would say that a pretty large portion of my submissions are replacements. But I think Olimar's right. Even if I were to just update the formatting on the horrible sheets, I'd need to end up fixing a few notation errors like time sigs, key sigs, 32nd notes that should be grace notes, etc... And if I'm gonna fix that stuff, I might as well check rhythms. And while I'm checking rhythms, I might hear a wrong note. By now I'm halfway to submitting a normal replacement, and the rest is gonna get fixed by the updaters anyway. In the end, it's really just a better idea to replace a sheet with everything fixed. Might as well put in the work while it's being looked at.