AAAAAHHHH BESPINBEN!!!It's a glorious day! ;D
Giant logo
(http://mms.businesswire.com/media/20150521005329/en/468995/5/SMD_Logo_Final_RGB.jpg)
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon/
https://www.facebook.com/SerebiiNetPage/photos/a.272994882786806.65588.271717862914508/832403310179291/?type=1&theater
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150521005329/en/Pok%C3%A9mon-Super-Mystery-Dungeon-Launching-Winter-2015#.VV3bHI5Viko
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/pokemon_super_mystery_dungeon_is_adventuring_to_3ds
http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/
YAY!!!!! I know what my birthday present will be next year!
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edit: more europe discrimination? ty nintendo
YES OUR PRAYERS WERE ANSWERED!
Now we just need to hope for a good story, with nothing in common with the wiiware games, and no Free to Play model.
EDIT: Japanese title is "Pokemon Mystery Dungeon ULTRA" it seems. Can't find any info on if it's a F2P or a retail game.
Hell yeah I would be wondering when the Gen VI Mystery Dungeon would be announced. It was inevitable, we've had one for every gen since III. In response to the comment above me, the phrase "sweeping tale of adventure and mystery" implies that it's an adventure game (story based), and the fact that it's announced to "retail" in North America by the end of 2015 suggests that unlike the recent Pokémon Shuffle and Pokémon Rumble World it will not be a free-to-play title (and will likely be available both in physical and download copies). Can't wait for more dungeon crawling and Pokémon soap opera drama. This announcement mmd. Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon, I await your arrival! Hopefully they let you pick your character's Pokémon again, that was so helpful.
Aw I thought the personality quiz at the beginning was cute in the first two games.
I didn't play Gates to Infinity because I heard bad things about it, but if this one comes out okay (i.e., having all the Pokemon in it) then I'll probably pick it up for old time's sake.
You should play GtI. Lots of people bash it, but it's still a good game. Most compare it to EoS, which is why everyone gets annoyed about it. I had fun with it though. :)
Yeah, it looks likely to be a complete traditional PMD game ^.^
I do hope they bring the personality quiz back lol. GtI wasn't bad, it just didn't have a lot of aspects I loved about the first two.
Also the words "Mystery Dungeon" in the logo returned to how they looked in the first two titles. Hmm.....
Oops didn't see this thread lmao
Quote from: blueflower999 on May 21, 2015, 08:44:16 AMAw I thought the personality quiz at the beginning was cute in the first two games.
I didn't play Gates to Infinity because I heard bad things about it, but if this one comes out okay (i.e., having all the Pokemon in it) then I'll probably pick it up for old time's sake.
Ohhhh yeah that'd be great but 3D models do take a ridiculous amount of data, especially since they used the Pokédex 3D Pro ones. XY/ORAS got around it by using cel-shading, so maybe if they use the new models they'll be able to include more Pokémon.
I think this just cured my cold. And everything else.
I hope no one thought I was getting assaulted in the last 10 minutes (well, I was [by my unfettered hype-spasms]).
I really hope they keep the composition team from last time. Maybe bring back Arata Iiyoshi for old times sake (they revived the old MYSTERY DUNGEON typesetting btw), but dang, Keisuke Ito and Yasuhiro Kawagoe made one of heck of a combo.
There was a 3-year gap between Rescue Team and Explorers, 5 years between Explorers and Gates (3 if you count Sky), and now it looks like PSMD will be 3 years since Gates. Not bad.
(Though in Bespin time it felt awfully fast - more like 1 year!)
I love seeing the internet in upheaval. Only confirms my theory that people will judge this game by Explorers and Gates [judging from several comments on the linked sites]. I always saw Gates as the spiritual successor to Rescue Team, so maybe PSMD will be more Explorers-like.
I'm truly surprised honestly. I really thought PMD was finished, seeing as the Iwata Ask interview revealed that the developers of Gates truly believed Gates was the ULTIMATE Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (and I could see why!). If that, their labor of love, didn't pan out well in the fans eyes, what then?
But I'm happy. I really am. I got the game I always wanted in the last, so I was ready to accept a bittersweet ending, but this is indeed a bright future. And who knows? Maybe this will end up being the means to really put the PMD series in the popular spotlight again, and newcomers might be interested in discovering the past installments. What a great cycle.
Quote from: Bespinben on May 21, 2015, 11:44:40 AMI think this just cured my cold. And everything else.
I hope no one thought I was getting assaulted in the last 10 minutes (well, I was [by my unfettered hype-spasms]).
I really hope they keep the composition team from last time. Maybe bring back Arata Iiyoshi for old times sake (they revived the old MYSTERY DUNGEON typesetting btw), but dang, Keisuke Ito and Yasuhiro Kawagoe made one of heck of a combo.
There was a 3-year gap between Rescue Team and Explorers, 5 years between Explorers and Gates (3 if you count Sky), and now it looks like PSMD will be 3 years since Gates. Not bad.
(Though in Bespin time it felt awfully fast - more like 1 year!)
I love seeing the internet in upheaval. Only confirms my theory that people will judge this game by Explorers and Gates [judging from several comments on the linked sites]. I always saw Gates as the spiritual successor to Rescue Team, so maybe PSMD will be more Explorers-like.
I'm truly surprised honestly. I really thought PMD was finished, seeing as the Iwata Ask interview revealed that the developers of Gates truly believed Gates was the ULTIMATE Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (and I could see why!). If that, their labor of love, didn't pan out well in the fans eyes, what then?
But I'm happy. I really am. I got the game I always wanted in the last, so I was ready to accept a bittersweet ending, but this is indeed a bright future. And who knows? Maybe this will end up being the means to really put the PMD series in the popular spotlight again, and newcomers might be interested in discovering the past installments. What a great cycle.
It would make for a great time to rerelease PMD RRT-EOS on the Wii U Virtual Console to introduce new players to the series. They did it for ORAS with Pokemon TCG, Pinball RSE and Puzzle Challenge!
I'm sick of seeing people immediately dismiss GTI for being too different from explorers due to silly nitpicks, even though they likely don't realize how bad the Wiiware games were in comparison. Maybe it's because I despise Explorers but then again I can't really say that's the reason since these same people seem to act as if Rescue Team never existed either...
Now I just hope people will give this new game a chance. Maybe take the nostalgia goggles off for explorers and give the new game a shot with an open mind. Or if that isn't their cup of tea, they could just grab Ys I-II off of the Wii Virtual Console or Lufia the Legend Returns off of the 3DS Virtual Console for a similar experience.
The hype is pretty real right now. I just need more info, dammit. I really hope this game is good.
Nintendo could really do better with advertising though. Instead of leading us on with generic statements of random dungeon generation as evidenced in the title, why not actually try something hypeworthy?
Once again, a human is transformed into a Pokemon . . . Once again an inseparable friendship is forged . . . Once again, a grand adventure awaits! Welcome (back) to the world of Pokemon!Make it epic. Make it a grand tale. Make it
Explorers.
Quote from: Nebbles on May 21, 2015, 12:36:26 PMThe hype is pretty real right now. I just need more info, dammit. I really hope this game is good.
Inorite!? There's just nothing to do right but sit and wait XD I think Game Freak does their homework well though. The subtle references in Gates shows that. They'll know what to fix.
Well, let's hope they'll know what to fix.
What do you think the acronyms for the game will be? I mean there's the obvious:
...but that sounds too much like PTSD. I've seen some cool ones though like:
(sounds epic like Super Metroid ;) )
I guess this means I'll have to stop calling Gates to Infinity as PMD3DS, seeing as there would now be two games that could fall under that title. Unless:
I was just gonna stick to calling it Super PMD. Though a better name definitely could've been used.
I like Super PMD haha
The next games in the series are going to be Super PMD Turbo, Super PMD 64, and New Super PMD.
Then ULTRA PMD!!!!
One PMD to rule them all, One PMD to find them,
One PMD to bring them all and in the dungeons bind them
In the Land of Post Town where the Forest of Shadows lie.
Obvious rant is obvious: Why are the Japanese logos for things always so much better designed?
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http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/#
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201505/21079134.html
Speaking of the Japanese logo it roughly translates to Pokemon Mystery Dungeon ULTRA from what I can tell. That seems to be a better name IMO. Makes it seem like the ultimate game.
I do have a bad feeling I'll get too hyped and expect dumb and crazy things like voice acting, cutscenes and redbook audio, thanks to Ys being stuck in my head lately. Still, I hope they can pull through with the story while making it more accessible to those who liked Explorers/RRT.
Ironically I had a formal letter made for Spike Chunsoft I was going to mail to them after I beat GTI back in 2013 when it launched but I never sent it since I couldn't read Japanese addresses. I can now that I've taken Japanese so maybe I'll send it anyway?
Subtle edit is subtle!
This morning:
"...battle alongside Legendary and Mythical Pokémon to save the world
in a sweeping tale of adventure and mystery."
(Source: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/pokemon_super_mystery_dungeon_is_adventuring_to_3ds)Just recently:
"Battle alongside Legendary and Mythical Pokémon to save the world
from a crisis in a tale of unprecedented scale."
(Source: http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon/)
I don't know about you guys, but if giant meteors, collapse of space-time continuum, and the incarnation of evil itself haven't already set that precedent, this game is sure claiming to be SOMETHING.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 21, 2015, 03:00:45 PMSpeaking of the Japanese logo it roughly translates to Pokemon Mystery Dungeon ULTRA from what I can tell. That seems to be a better name IMO. Makes it seem like the ultimate game.
I do have a bad feeling I'll get too hyped and expect dumb and crazy things like voice acting, cutscenes and redbook audio, thanks to Ys being stuck in my head lately. Still, I hope they can pull through with the story while making it more accessible to those who liked Explorers/RRT.
Ironically I had a formal letter made for Spike Chunsoft I was going to mail to them after I beat GTI back in 2013 when it launched but I never sent it since I couldn't read Japanese addresses. I can now that I've taken Japanese so maybe I'll send it anyway?
Hmm really? The Japanese Pokémon official site has it indexed as "cho dungeon" in the URL, which I guess often is rendered as "super"? You'd know more Japanese than me of course.
Give in to the hype! I nearly punched a hole in my bed. (Though I missed out on the hype train during GtI, so maybe I'm just desperate to finally get to ride it again).
Quote from: Bespinben on May 21, 2015, 03:02:12 PMSubtle edit is subtle!
This morning:
"...battle alongside Legendary and Mythical Pokémon to save the world in a sweeping tale of adventure and mystery."
(Source: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/pokemon_super_mystery_dungeon_is_adventuring_to_3ds)
Just recently:
"Battle alongside Legendary and Mythical Pokémon to save the world from a crisis in a tale of unprecedented scale."
(Source: http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon/)
I don't know about you guys, but if giant meteors, collapse of space-continuum, and the incarnation of evil itself haven't already set that precedent, this game is sure claiming to be SOMETHING.
Hmm really? The Japanese Pokémon official site has it indexed as "cho dungeon" in the URL, which I guess often is rendered as "super"? You'd know more Japanese than me of course.
Give in to the hype! I nearly punched a hole in my bed. (Though I missed out on the hype train during GtI, so maybe I'm just desperate to finally get to ride it again).
I'm no Japanese master or anything but I believe that's what it roughly translates to. "Cho" could also possibly be short for "Chotto" which means "A Little", so I hope this game isn't one of those shorter experiences we've been getting lately. Either that or it could mean something I haven't learned yet.
And Crisis in a tale of unprecedented scale? Darn you TPCI stop making me think it's going to have a deep and epic story like Ys IV or Lufia II, since I know you guys wouldn't allow blood or death or questionable female antagonists (Then again GTI had one, along with the infamous Kyurem scene, but you never know)
Speaking of which I also have a feeling that people will make jokes about it being a new SNES game, since back then they loved putting Super on every name for that system and now it returns for the NA/EU versions.
I don't really care what they call it, as long as they deliver on the story! That said, the title gives away even less than the previous ones, so we'll be speculating for a while [emoji14]
Following the past three, I'm guessing a gen 6 legendary or two will be a large part of the story.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 21, 2015, 03:11:13 PMSpeaking of which I also have a feeling that people will make jokes about it being a new SNES game, since back then they loved putting Super on every name for that system and now it returns for the NA/EU versions.
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Quote from: Bespinben on May 21, 2015, 03:26:55 PMTrololollolololollolololol
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Noooooooooo now you make me want someone to do a Lufia II sprite edit to replace everybody with PMD NPCs :(
That being said, what if this game introduces Zygarde's new form? It's possible after all...
My day has been made.
Those Japanese links don't have too much information, although while the English thing just uses the word "crisis", the Japanese one uses "星の危機"...
Japan's getting it in autumn, so I'd love to have a sneak peek of it then.
I'm hoping for something involving Yveltal, since it seems like a pretty good candidate for a plot thing.
Hoping for a more varied mix of Pokémon, too. And hoping for a difficulty ramp-up.
Quote from: InsigTurtle on May 21, 2015, 04:51:06 PMMy day has been made.
Those Japanese links don't have too much information, although while the English thing just uses the word "crisis", the Japanese one uses "星の危機"...
Japan's getting it in autumn, so I'd love to have a sneak peek of it then.
I'm hoping for something involving Yveltal, since it seems like a pretty good candidate for a plot thing.
Hoping for a more varied mix of Pokémon, too. And hoping for a difficulty ramp-up.
That seems to mean "World Crisis" which is the same thing. I have a feeling we'll see it playable at E3 with a trailer next month, so hopefully it'll be great!
But 星 means star. 世界 is world. I don't know if it's a hint about the plot or if they just decided to use different wording.
Oh snap! E3 is soon! I do hope we get at trailer then.
"Tired of resetting your game over and over to get your favorite 'Mon? No fear! With new Super Mystery Amiibos™, exclusive to Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon™, you can instantly become your inner Poké-sona of choice."
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DOES THIS MEAN PERSONALITY QUIZZES ARE BACK?!
Quote from: Nebbles on May 21, 2015, 10:43:46 PMDOES THIS MEAN PERSONALITY QUIZZES ARE BACK?!
Spoiler
Only if you consider the source reliable:
http://bespinben.deviantart.com/art/Pokemon-Super-Mystery-Dungeon-SuperPMD-Amiibo-534573202
I sowwy Nebbles :3
aw come on
Thanks. You had me super excited for 5 seconds before I scrolled down.
Quote from: Bespinben on May 21, 2015, 10:36:31 PM"Tired of resetting your game over and over to get your favorite 'Mon? No fear! With new Super Mystery Amiibos™, exclusive to Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon™, you can instantly become your inner Poké-sona of choice."
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/superPMDamiibo_zps7lmrf2vb.png) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/superPMDamiibo_zps7lmrf2vb.png.html)
Oh hey, it's one of those PMD2 toys they made! I thought I was the only one who knew about them.
Now you make me want to try something similar.
Hold on...
Spoiler
GUYS FIRST DUNGEON THEME REVEALED
Joking aside I do wish PSMD will have music as great as this song though
I can't wait to play all of it on piano :3
What features do you most want to see return? (From Rescue Team, Explorers, or GTI)?
Explorers had a lot of good features, like being able to recruit easily with no need to bust bank on friend areas, but I liked being able to switch leaders/party mid-dungeon like you could in Rescue Team.
Quote from: Latios212 on May 22, 2015, 07:17:11 AMWhat features do you most want to see return? (From Rescue Team, Explorers, or GTI)?
*Lots of mythical lore (Ninetales Legend, Time Gear, Voice of Life -- that type of stuff.)
*Incorporate new 6th Gen mechanics to facilitate plot (mega evolution just screams that)
*I would love to have a large open world. The Friend Areas helped, and so did Pokémon Paradise, but I'd really like to actually travel to dungeons and have it take time to get there. The "outside-dungeon" mechanic from GtI could be altered to make traveling dangerous (road bandits, hunger, etc.)
This just in, a new Amiibo model!
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stop with the amiibos ;_; you're getting my hopes up
I really hope Pokémon jumps on the amiibo train soon. I want one of al my favorite Pokémon. They'd make a boatload.
What about a new app in the style of the Pokédex ones, but amiibo let you get more information or special things about whatever Pokémon amiibo you have?
There's a Pikachu and lucario amiibo
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 23, 2015, 08:12:00 AMThere's a Pikachu and lucario amiibo
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Quote from: Nebbles on May 22, 2015, 12:57:06 PMI liked being able to switch leaders/party mid-dungeon like you could in Rescue Team.
That was a lot of fun! (And it would save me when my leader was getting wrecked...)
Quote from: Bespinben on May 22, 2015, 02:10:20 PM*Lots of mythical lore (Ninetales Legend, Time Gear, Voice of Life -- that type of stuff.)
*Incorporate new 6th Gen mechanics to facilitate plot (mega evolution just screams that)
*I would love to have a large open world. The Friend Areas helped, and so did Pokémon Paradise, but I'd really like to actually travel to dungeons and have it take time to get there. The "outside-dungeon" mechanic from GtI could be altered to make traveling dangerous (road bandits, hunger, etc.)
I loved the mythical story elements in all three games. I really enjoyed the element of
discovery in all three games - you're literally dropped into a world with NO CLUE what's going on and you have to slowly piece together what mythical elements drive the story. And you can't predict the story based on past titles, so the real you is just as clueless as the in-game you, which makes the story really immersive.
Mega evolution would be cool (but how would it work???)
That open-world idea is wonderful. It felt a little strange to me how just about every dungeon is accessible by taking a step or two beyond the edge of the screen, and taking time to get to places I believe would make it more enjoyable. (Think Comet Observatory vs. Starship Mario.) This would also help to make the dungeons more memorable - I found it difficult to recall names and story locations in GTI. (Also Zero Isle - cool name, great challenge, but what's that place really about?)
Also, keep it up with these Amiibos.... they're fun to look at :P
Quote from: Latios212 on May 22, 2015, 07:17:11 AMWhat features do you most want to see return? (From Rescue Team, Explorers, or GTI)?
For me, lots of things. This will be long, so for things that should return...
Rescue Team-TM/HM Hunting. As odd as this may seem, it would be neat to go and actually put effort into finding HMs in order to advance the post game plot, as long as they aren't
too hard to find.
-Link moves. I really miss these but they helped me so much in this game I need them back. So many cool combinations
-Smart NPCs. In my opinion, RRT/BRT had a great cast of characters. They all were worried about the coming danger, and none of them were sure who to believe or how to stop it, but eventually you learn fun details about them if you wish, such as the Snubbull that didn't like evolving, Caterpie having faith in you, ETC. They felt more "real" to me, and while GTI did bring that back for the story characters, the ones that didn't do much in the actual story had barely any personality to them at all. Yeah I could learn that Emolga and Virizion are a couple now, but I want to see what that Ducklett was up to, what his story was, and why he came to the town, if you know what I mean.
Explorers-Eggs. I liked collecting these and it made completing difficult missions much more satisfying, though the randomness of getting the eggs made it a bit cheap, I think they could improve it in PSMD.
-Special Episodes. If we get a great cast of NPCs in PSMD, we might as well learn about them, right? I think it would be a great chance to bring these back, especially if we had more memorable characters this time around. (IMO the only special episodes worth playing were 1, 4 and 5.)
-Multiple Jobs at once. This is self explanatory.
-99 Floor Dungeons. Yes, these were in GTI but there were very few of them and only one (Strongest Trail, the DLC dungeon) allowed you to keep your current level as you fought hordes of dangerous enemies at your own skill level, and even then it was sixty floors long. I think bringing back the post game challenge would be a treat for hardcore fans like me.
-Direct Travel to Dungeons. I found it amazing that you could literally go from the town to right in front of the Beach Cave without selecting it from a boring menu. PMD would benefit greatly from this if they expand on this concept.
-Wi-Fi rescues. Self explanatory.
Gates to Infinity-Team Attack. Was very helpful and took care of those pesky monster houses. Would be neat to see return.
-Pokemon choice selection. The personality test was only a pointless gimmick, this way you can choose the one you want without looking at a guide. They could also make the test optional for those who love it.
-Move Levels. Encouraged you to keep your strongest moves in your moveset without constantly rotating them. However it did lead to some overpowered team members if you leveled it up too much...
I'm looking at you Keldeo.
-Legendary "Battle Rooms". I loved these as the entire focus was a fierce fight against the boss, and it truly felt epic to me. It would be great to have this come back.
-Genders. Yes, this was in GTI but only in the Japanese version for some odd reason. It didn't change much in the gameplay but I think I'm not the only one who believed it was silly that every pokemon in the US version was genderless even if the story said otherwise. It also would help fix broken moves that were supposed to only hit the opposite gender.
Those were things I think they should bring back from the older titles, but what about new features? Well... Here's my wishlist.
NEW features-Voice acting. Spike Chunsoft's visual novels have a lot of voice acting, and they are really good as well. It wouldn't hurt to give the final boss a line or two, would it?
-Redbook Audio. Yes, I know this is outdated but hearing high quality PMD music in this epic fashion would be an (impossible) dream come true, especially considering how well it helped the Ys (Ys I-IV on the PC Engine CD), Sonic (Sonic CD Japanese version) and Castlevania (Rondo of Blood) games.
-Classic music. I loved how in GTI you could replay select older tracks from the musical paradise if you bought the DLC, and I'd love to see more of that in PSMD, as long as they weren't all locked behind DLC of course.
-Cinematic cutscenes. While GTI had these in some way, I think a big, impressive, epic cutscene would be a great way to show off some things in this game. X and Y did it, so PSMD should be able to do so too.
-Mega Evolution. Nearly every Gen VI spinoff so far has mega evolution in some way, so there's no excuse for it to be absent in PSMD. It would lead to some great story elements.
-Multiple endings. While PMD GTI did have a "bad ending", it was pretty tame and didn't do much besides reverse time. I think having multiple paths for many different endings would be fantastic in PSMD, especially since Spike Chunsoft have experience in this field. (Otogirisou, 999, Virtue's Last Reward, Danganronpa, etc.) Would also encourage multiple replays of the game as well.
-Multiple save files. I feel that since the Wiiware PMD games had them, even if they weren't great games, it would be helpful if they finally had a main PMD game with more than one save file, especially if the multiple endings idea is actually used.
And that's my random (But probably unlikely) ideas for what should be added in the new Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game! Honestly, I'm excited for just a screenshot at this point. Hopefully we'll get to see what the game looks like very soon!
If Mega Evolution is added, I hope they add special music/remix for it for each dungeon. like how in Touhou 13 there's a separate track with different instrumentation that plays when you enter trance mode, or like how a remix plays inside on the pipe in Koopa Cape in MK Wii, since a single "mega evolution" track could get boring and it prompts people to play earlier dungeons if they wish to hear the Maurice (like the illusion tracks in GTI). or they could just have no special music playing. That would be meh
Pokémon Get☆TV airs today at 23:00 GMT, and from what I understand there might be more info on SuperPMD. Here's a link to a stream:
EDIT: Don't bother watching. No SuperPMD news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9Fio5swsPI
Oh rad, I hope we get some sweet info.
wow I got here 1 min before it started. But I have a committee session in a few minutes so I can't watch it :(
Don't bother watching the video stream recording. It just finished. No news on SuperPMD.
(The guy had the audacity to say "like this video" at the end too - for WHAT!?)
Well, it was hilarious, but no Super PMD. :(
D: Maybe we'll get Super PMD news this week?
We can hope!
I'm hoping for something in a month. Probably going to have summertime hype.
Spike Chunsoft also developed to recent Etrian Mystery Dungeon game, right? That one looked pretty good and it has good reviews. that fives me high hopes for Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon.
I wonder what the super means here... It must have some significance...
Quote from: InsigTurtle on May 23, 2015, 05:11:42 PMI'm hoping for something in a month. Probably going to have summertime hype.
Spike Chunsoft also developed to recent Etrian Mystery Dungeon game, right? That one looked pretty good and it has good reviews. that fives me high hopes for Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon.
I wonder what the super means here... It must have some significance...
They did indeed, along with Atlus. Unfortunately that game has no story which made me not pick it up, so I hope they focus on the story in this game, unlike EMD where they didn't.
I'm sure we'll be having plenty of summer time hype for Super PMD.
they sacrificed story for graphics and gameplay apparently.
It would be funny if people watched Nintendo's E3 event expecting Pokemon Z or Pokken Tournament only to see a trailer for PSMD and get very upset while us over here would be super excited
Bahahaha oh god that'd be great
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 23, 2015, 05:35:25 PMIt would be funny if people watched Nintendo's E3 event expecting Pokemon Z or Pokken Tournament only to see a trailer for PSMD and get very upset while us over here would be super excited
This. I'd have a second heart attack.
Quote from: Nebbles on May 23, 2015, 05:37:14 PMBahahaha oh god that'd be great
Nearly everyone I saw on the internet reacted to the announcement like "uggggh this isnt pokemon z gamefreak u suck pmd will never be good again after gates explorers forever" which is why I KNOW they'll do the same with every reveal trailer later on. Unfortunately they don't seem to realize doing yearly instalments are the reason why ORAS lacked a battle frontier or any challenge, so IMO this is good for the main series.
Agreed! I think a break from yearly installments in the main series would be nice, and we can get some nice spin off love.
We win, and we win again ;)
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 23, 2015, 05:35:25 PMIt would be funny if people watched Nintendo's E3 event expecting Pokemon Z or Pokken Tournament only to see a trailer for PSMD and get very upset while us over here would be super excited
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 23, 2015, 05:41:43 PMNearly everyone I saw on the internet reacted to the announcement like "uggggh this isnt pokemon z gamefreak u suck pmd will never be good again after gates explorers forever"
Poor souls just don't know what they're missing in their lives:
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I couldn't give less of a fuck about Pokken Tournament but anything else Pokémon wise would be amazing
pls bring personality quizzes back
Quote from: Nebbles on May 23, 2015, 07:23:19 PMpls bring personality quizzes back
I
just had an idea. It will reconcile both parties that both want and don't want the questionnaire. I don't think this will actually happen, but it could work.
Remember the Colored Bow you magically get from nowhere at the beginning of PMD2 (the color of which corresponds to the Aura you were analyzed to have had?). This was a really helpful item to carry around at the beginning of the game because it boosted ALL your stats.
Here's my idea. You can CHOOSE whether or not to take the Personality Test. However, you will not get an Aura-related item if you opt instead to just pick your Poké-Avatar. The game could pull off some kind excuse for the weakening of the player by having a Xatu-like NPC saying "Your weakened state is due to the misalignment of your spirit aura and your present body."
Huh. That could work.
Quote from: Bespinben on May 23, 2015, 06:13:28 PMPoor souls just don't know what they're missing in their lives:
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Oh crud, now I have to counter...
OK, uh...
Spoiler
Look! A song that may fit a random dungeon in PSMD!
Expect many 16 Bit music jokes to come....I do wish I could get photoshop someday. I'd make tons of mockups due to my excitement for the game, even if some of them make no sense at all.
EDIT: I just realized something horrifying. They used pokedex 3D models for GTI... And Gen VI was never included in Pokedex 3D... So how will they design the pokemon? I'm kinda nervous they'll go and use the terrible models made by Ambrella like they did for PMD3, since Pokemon Rumble World made Gen VI pokemon into those models. I'm actually quite terrified now that they'll try that again...
if the game is going to be for the 3DS, they'll have to incorporate 3D somehow. Using the older style models from Explorers of Time would be challenging
That would be terrifying, but I honestly don't think that's going to happen. They already have 90% of the sprites done, given that Gen 6 has introduced so few Pokémon. (Well, Mega Evolutions....)
Still, I don't think they'd lower their standards for the graphics. (GTI WAS BEAUTIFUL!!)
Quote from: Nebbles on May 23, 2015, 05:44:27 PMAgreed! I think a break from yearly installments in the main series would be nice, and we can get some nice spin off love.
Won't somebody please think of Pokemon Pinball?
Quote from: Latios212 on May 24, 2015, 11:20:55 AMThat would be terrifying, but I honestly don't think that's going to happen. They already have 90% of the sprites done, given that Gen 6 has introduced so few Pokémon. (Well, Mega Evolutions....)
Still, I don't think they'd lower their standards for the graphics. (GTI WAS BEAUTIFUL!!)
Yeah, after how nice GTI and EMD looked I'd hate for them to go back to sprites. I'd honestly only accept it if it would the only way we could get voice acting in the game somehow. (Hey if Pikachu of all things can have a voice in Gen VI surely something in PSMD can as well?)
I don't think we really need voice acting for a PMD game.
Quote from: Nebbles on May 24, 2015, 12:36:42 PMI don't think we really need voice acting for any game.
ftfy
Portal 2
Voice acting is fine where it's fitting at least, but Pokemon games have never seemed to be fitting for voice acting at all.
I've always felt that it would add more charm and personality to the game, like it did in Pokepark Wii. As much as I dislike those games in terms of gameplay, I still found it to be adorable how every Pokemon had their own voice from the anime. Since Pokemon in PMD say more than just their name, I honestly believe that it would be a great series to get some sort of voice acting, even if it was something simple like a laugh from the main antagonists or whatnot. Of course, as long as it isn't cringe worthy like the anime specials... (Save for the animated trailers for Gates to Infinity)
voice acting is never necessary either the game is still just as good without it or it detracts
While I agree that voice acting is amazing in some situations (hm... Professor Layton) I find it kind of awkward hearing Pokémon speak in English. Especially since you can believe they (your partner in particular) sound however you want them to, to really feel like it's
your own story and experience. I wouldn't want to risk the universality of the story.
In my opinion, some things are best left to the imagination...
What would Hydreigon sound like? Morgan Freeman?
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Yeah, I agree with you there. I sort of liked imagining my own voices for the Pokemon anyway, and Pokemon is just one of those games where it'll never really work out.
Quote from: Latios212 on May 24, 2015, 01:38:04 PMWhile I agree that voice acting is amazing in some situations (hm... Professor Layton) I find it kind of awkward hearing Pokémon speak in English. Especially since you can believe they (your partner in particular) sound however you want them to, to really feel like it's your own story and experience. I wouldn't want to risk the universality of the story.
While I can see where you are coming from with that, (In my opinion I also like the idea of feeling like it's me in the PMD games, and that my partner is their own person instead of the same character as everybody else) I still think having something to change things up isn't a bad idea. Heck, X and Y had optional lyrics for it's end credits that you could sing in your head if you wanted to, so maybe PSMD could at least have that for it's ending? I don't know, it's just with no screenshots, trailer, music or anything from PSMD I'm very nervous and also excited on what they'll do with this new installment.
I agree with Latios. Even in the animated special, I was just saying "No! Umbreon does NOT talk like that!"
Also, I pronounce some Pokemon's names wrong (for example, Virizion), so I would get annoyed at the game.
Professor Layton's voice acting is great, and so is Kid Icarus:Uprising's, but I think that would be too much of a shift for me to have it in a Pokemon game. I think making it optional could work, though.
I just can't imagine them having voice acting in a Pokemon game. The idea is way too weird for me.
They should only give voice acting to Pikachu like they did in Generation 6
Naaaah. That enough was stupid, we don't need anything like that again.
MEOWTH THAT'S RIGHT!
Quote from: Nebbles on May 24, 2015, 01:59:22 PMNaaaah. That enough was stupid, we don't need anything like that again.
Yeah I can agree with that at least. This Pikachu bias because he's the mascot shouldn't get too out of hand.
I guess the whole reason I hoped for some sort of voice acting in PMD was because I'm hoping that they'll expand the universe somehow. (Like with another Anime special, a third Manga, a CD drama, something that can give extra info on the inevitable mysteries left unsolved in this game's plot.)
To be fair, I've found it very irritating how they only seem to do these things for the main series, with all of the CD dramas they have released, the numerous manga series they've published, etc when PMD should be able to have at least one of those considering how it's the most popular of the spinoff franchises.
Hm, another PMD manga would be pretty interesting, that I wouldn't mind.
does it have to be anime/manga
why not American cartoon or comic books
Well, uh, Pokemon is a Japanese franchise. And anime and manga are kind of a Japanese thing. So it'd make sense for Pokemon to get an anime or manga adaptation.
Quote from: Nebbles on May 24, 2015, 02:08:31 PMHm, another PMD manga would be pretty interesting, that I wouldn't mind.
That would be amazing :P I loved Ginji's Rescue Team.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 24, 2015, 02:19:39 PMdoes it have to be anime/manga
why not American cartoon or comic books
I'm not even sure if you're joking here. What's the difference besides waiting for translations anyway?
Quote from: Latios212 on May 24, 2015, 02:48:29 PMThat would be amazing :P I loved Ginji's Rescue Team.
Ginji's Rescue Team was my LIFE holy shit
Y'know I never gave that manga a fair chance, I kinda flipped through it and never read it in full.
Quote from: Bubbles on May 24, 2015, 02:50:19 PMI'm not even sure if you're joking here. What's the difference besides waiting for translations anyway?
I wouldn't watch/read it either way because I don't watch tv shows or read comic books so it makes no difference to me, but I would think a significant portion of the demographic speaks english
...but the origin country is Japan, so of course it's going to follow their path of entertainment, not anyone else's.
Quote from: Nebbles on May 24, 2015, 02:52:36 PMY'know I never gave that manga a fair chance, I kinda flipped through it and never read it in full.
You won't regret it:
http://jb2448.info/Ginji_Rescue_Team/PMD_Ginji_Rescue_Team_c01
Quote*voice acting in PMD discussion*
I like the idea of having voice acting as part of a SEPARATE medium from the game (like the CD drama idea, or anime adaptations), but since the game is supposed to be YOUR experience, leaving it up to the imagination is best.
HOWEVER, if this fan voice-acting clip of the Disappearance scene from PMD2 is any evidence, it definitely could have some strong emotional power (again, in it's own medium, not part of the game itself)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKk5B5UsSD8
Quote from: Bespinben on May 24, 2015, 03:07:29 PMYou won't regret it:
http://jb2448.info/Ginji_Rescue_Team/PMD_Ginji_Rescue_Team_c01
I like the idea of having voice acting as part of a SEPARATE medium from the game (like the CD drama idea, or anime adaptations), but since the game is supposed to be YOUR experience, leaving it up to the imagination is best.
HOWEVER, if this fan voice-acting clip of the Disappearance scene from PMD2 is any evidence, it definitely could have some strong emotional power (again, in it's own medium, not part of the game itself)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKk5B5UsSD8
Ah the PMD1 manga... I remember learning about it and going nuts in school back in the day. I kept nagging my school librarian for a copy until she finally said "OK just leave me alone and look at Borders or something.", where my Aunt took me and there I saw it! I was so happy that I brought it home and read the entire book.
...Well, compared to the games I found it to be a bit confusing and not as emotional as I would have liked it to be, but it was still interesting nonetheless. When I learned the PMD2 Manga was more emotional (And fixed my problems with the characters), I desperately wanted a copy to the point I emailed Viz Media asking for a localization. (Of course since I was 10 I had bad grammar so I obviously didn't get a response.) I heard there was a fan translation, but I've never seen it for myself and even then I'd prefer a physical copy somehow. If they did make one for PSMD, I would absolutely do everything I could to have Viz Localize it, especially since we FINALLY have Pokemon Adventures in English after so many years.
...And somebody made a PMD2 audio drama. I think I'm going to leave the room and scream in excitement that there are so many great fans out there. Seriously we don't even have one screenshot and this topic is at seven pages already, and I feel glad I'm not the only excited one here.
Quote from: Bespinben on May 24, 2015, 03:07:29 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKk5B5UsSD8
I thought I was listening to a fkn anime episode until I read the post
Quote from: Nebbles on May 24, 2015, 01:59:22 PMNaaaah. That enough was stupid, we don't need anything like that again.
^this times 1000 idc that only Pikachu got its anime cry, I care that its original cry was nixed in favor of the iconic one. Pokémon saying their names is fine for a kid's show but I absolutely hate how Pikachu's cry is just its own name in the games now. Especially since it evolves and becomes an animal noise again.
Like I love Pokemon cries so it was annoying it got nixed. There was a point where I just knew all of the gen one cries by heart actually
my friends all can do that like I was playing yellow and I was like "name that pokemon" and they kept getting it and I was so confused because they literally all sound the same
Awww... I love it! Pikachu is now my favourite Pokemon noise!! It's even better when you KO one and it squeals "PIKAAAAAA!!" :P
PLOT PREDICTION BECAUSE I HAVE NO LIFE
The Studio
•Brand new staff is employed to write script (Shinichiro Tomie is probably burnt out)
•All previous PMD composers re-unite in a super dream team, making the composition staff total at 8 members
Generalities
•Playable character is a human-turned-Pokémon (I'm such a Sherlock); amnesiac? maybe
•Playable character will have a special power, like the Dimensional Scream in PMD2
•There will be a partner (I had to think hard about that one)
•Partner will grow to care deeply for you, even to the point of possible room for shipping.
•Partner's history may be explored (a la Gates to Infinity)
•Partner's family could be in the story... (following the trend from Gates)
•Which Pokémon you are has no effect on the plot, besides some minor dialogue alterations (see Rescue Team for instance)
•Likely will be only one town, but considering it's SUPER Mystery Dungeon, multiple towns would be cool (kinda like the multiple Planets in Metroid Prime 3)
•Diancie will be a queen for cosmetic effect to the town
•There will be a Exploration coalition of some sort (a guild, HAPPI, or something of the like)
•Main conflict concerns legendary and mystical pokémon and the fate of the world (pulled that right out of my butt! the main site announcement!)
•The inevitable plot twist will involve a betrayal by someone close to you, the playable character.
•Dungeon researcher type characters (ex: Umbreon and Espeon in GtI) will play a supporting role
Various Cliche Plot Points
•Partner will instantly believe you are a human, like in Gates, despite knowledge humans are a myth.
•Some cute, innocent pokémon will have her item stolen and you have to save her item
•Some 6th gen legendary will appear to the player character in their dreams; initial dreams will be vague.
•Some local lore will involve a tale about Zygarde acting as a guardian that keeps the World's Balance.
•Town turns on you by some twist of events related to the lore
sounds like my horoscope
Gawd, Ben. I think you need to find yourself another hobby or something. PMD is consuming you. :P
I'm assuming it's another singular title. Not that I have a problem with that, but I did like the differences between the versions.
Am I the only one that misses the password rescue feature? Seriously, if this game brings it back and lets you share them via miiverse that would be an awesome way to communicate with fellow teams. (Same goes for any VC rereleases of PMD I-II)
It'd definitely be nice, or just an easier way to rescue people, because oh god typing up those passwords was so tedious.
More theories to keep me sane until new news comes.
(You may just be right Fingerz)
PMD Gates to Infinity is really the Pokémon version of Fullmetal Alchemist. Here's why:
1.) Magnagates = Transmutation Circles
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Proof is in the pudding. Also worthy of note is how both use this mechanic as a means to traverse dimensions. In Fullmetal Alchemist (at least in the 2003 anime), performing a human transmutation has the potential to "open the other side of the Gate", resulting in a portal to the (4th wall break!) THE REAL WORLD WE LIVE IN.
As for Gates to Infinity, the BLUE Magnagate is only seen in context of PMD --> Human World cross-relations (ex: the .gif above, as well as using the in-game Magnagate dungeon feature that uses the 3DS camera). Similar wording is used in the Our First Meeting scene to describe its function - "...but what will happen if I tell him that I came from the OTHER SIDE OF THE SKY? Guess I'll just have to spill the beans." This Blue Magnagate ALSO breaks the 4th wall, just like in Fullmetal Alchemist.
2.) Entercards = Philosopher Stone (or any kind of alchemic modifier)
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Notice how in PMD:GtI that, when Entercards are invoked, the aura of the Magnagate turns RED? Similarly, in FMA, transmutations aided by the power of a Philsopher Stone (or, alternatively, faux "Red Stones") also have a RED aura.
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Post-Commentary:
*I always struck me odd how you never learned how to use Entercards to create Magnagates yourself in the game -- you always had to go through Umbreon and Espeon. If their so-called Science is really Alchemy (a la Fullmetal), then it would make sense there would only be a select few that could perform the art, as we see the majority of the population in Fullmetal Alchemist do not have the natural talent to perform alchemy.
*Umbreon and Espeon seem to give of a "Roy Mustang x Riza Hawkeye" vibe...
Oh, cool. Also, in the end,
Spoiler
When Edward goes to our world, he is put into the body of a human from our world (hence the "does transmutation mean anything to you?" line). What about when you're put into the body of a Pokemon? Also, Al gets his body back at the cost of Ed and his memories. Think about how all of your friends are supposed to forget you?
Disclaimer: I have not seen that anime in several years, so my memory may be a bit dodgy.
I thought spirit tracks was fullmetal alchemist
Why, because of the Phantoms and Zelda and...oh.
I actually know nothing about FMA but apparently there's an Alphonse just like in spirit tracks and the whole Zelda in phantoms thing
You should watch it! It's really good.
Although similar in appearance to Al, the Zelda/Phantom mechanic has many differences. First, Phantoms do not have free will. They are just sentries. Al, however, is his own person. At times he disagrees with Ed, and he has his own personality. In the spirit Zelda mechanic, she can control Phantoms. Although in this mode she has free will and control over the suitor armor, she us not bound to it like Al is, and she can move freely between Phantoms, and even just as a spirit.
Well, that was a very long-winded explanation, wasn't it. Basically, just watch the show. :P
Quote from: Hero of Trains on May 27, 2015, 07:21:26 PMOh, cool. Also, in the end,
Spoiler
When Edward goes to our world, he is put into the body of a human from our world (hence the "does transmutation mean anything to you?" line). What about when you're put into the body of a Pokemon? Also, Al gets his body back at the cost of Ed and his memories. Think about how all of your friends are supposed to forget you?
hmm. thats not what i remember. Did you watch the original anime or brotherhood?
The original, I think.
Yeah I'd love to connect two of my favorite series but I don't think brotherhood mentions 4th wall stuff so you lost me there
Also about Zelda vs Alphonse: Al is a human soul trapped in a suit of armor. Zelda is a spirit who posses armor to control it for a slight period of time. I wouldn't really compare the two (since Al's situation is a lot more heartbreaking) but the armor designs are very similar
Quote from: Hero of TrainsWhen Edward goes to our world, he is put into the body of a human from our world (hence the "does transmutation mean anything to you?" line). What about when you're put into the body of a Pokemon? Also, Al gets his body back at the cost of Ed and his memories. Think about how all of your friends are supposed to forget you?
OH MY GOSH. Trains you just answered one of the questions that always had been on my mind about Gates to Infinity (using my own theory no less!). It makes so much sense. If we liken the Player's soul being transported to the body of a Pokémon as being analogous to Alphonse's soul-to-armor situation, then, in order to bring the Player's soul back to their human body in the human world, the necessary sacrifice to satisfy the equivalent exchange.... would be
the memories of everyone (just like in FMA 2003). Now I would like to investigate what caused this equivalent exchange to be overruled in the Finale to bring the Player back to the Pokémon world (and with everyone's memories intact)... I mean sure the power of love, hope, friendship is magic etc, etc, -- but I think there's something deeper!
Oh, and today marks 1-week since the announcement of Super Mystery Dungeon!
(Funny, it only took Gates to Infinity TWO DAYS between the announcement and the first trailer... GRAAAAH)
...christ, it's already been a week?
Japanese Nintendo Direct soon over summer titles. Slim chance of a PSMD teaser but don't get your hopes up. Hopefully it won't be like the wiiware game...
A slim chance is something, at least.
"Magnagate = Alchemy" theory now proven. (Why didn't I google Ley Lines earlier?)
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(Leygate? oh come on that's a total giveaway!)
It's important to note Nicholas Flammel (c. 1300s) was most notably skilled as an alchemist, rather than a magician.
(Granted, the Wiki is of pop fantasy, but this stuff goes way back)
Btw, the first ever fanmade Music Prediction of the SuperPMD OST was made today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yin0qiTFUu0
I wouldn't mind this actually being the real deal, haha.
Ohh, this makes me feel really happy on the inside. I want it to be real.
I believe they mentioned Ley Lines in both FMA and PMD. In FMA, I think it was sometime directly after Al... you know (I can't add spoilers right now because the forum's messed up). In PMD, it was when they were discussing magnagates.
That looks really cool!
Quote from: Bespinben on May 29, 2015, 10:00:45 PMBtw, the first ever fanmade Music Prediction of the SuperPMD OST was made today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yin0qiTFUu0
I wouldn't mind this actually being the real deal, haha.
I like the calm theme in the background, helps especially since I had a poor day today.
I also had a dream about PSMD last night. Dreamed that I woke up one morning, checked the internet and it was a free to play game that used the ambrella models. Even in my dreams I can't stop worrying about that.
IT IS TIME
(Can anyone translate?)
- Release date September 17.
- Good sprites. Awwww yea. Gameplay looks pretty much like GTI.
- Pikachu stares into a pool of water, shocked (that feels familiar).
- GIANT WAILORD MOVING AROUND THE DUNGEON IS HILARIOUS
- Monster houses return.
- Some new colorful town-looking place. I spy Kecleon and Cofagrigus shops, and a new Klefki one on the left. (Treasure-chest opening service?)
- Sad Piplup is sad.
- Apparently all 720 Pokemon are in this game!
- Many cutscenes of Legendaries.
- Looks like you will have your choice of any regular starter, Pikachu, or Riolu. (No personality quiz, though?)
- *lots of Japanese text I can't read*
- Cutscene of Rayquaza crashing into Deoxys in space (DELTA EPISODE REFERENCE??)
- The music sounds great just like I'd expect! I'm going to guess this is the opening theme. Starts off with a bang, includes a slew of sounds to create the feeling of a grand adventure. Then it slows down a bit just like the other opening themes so you get the chance to just stare in awe. It starts building up to an awesome finish ...and the song fades out.
LOOKS LIKE THE AMOUNT OF CONTENT IS BACK :]]]]
WE FINALLY GET TO WEAR SCARFS AND BOWTIES!!!!
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(I have to wonder if these familiar NPCs would be the actual same ones from previous games.... seeing as there was a Lombre in PMD1)
The music (and town design) give off a very royal vibe...
OKAY, if Gates to Infinity was a 1 GB size game (which is large in the 3DS spectrum), this game is going to be freaking ginormous with all 720 Pokémon.
MP3 of the Main Theme for our amusement and edification:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/SuperPMD%20-%20Main%20Theme%20%28beta%29%C2%8F.mp3
(couldn't remove the sound effects without terribly distorting the original signal :/)
......'dat trumpet near the end.... take that Hoenn!
YES! This is best thing ever to wake up to! It looks so great! But you probably already know what I'm most excited about. Yep, it' Charmander! Also, if they do something with the Delta Episode, that would be amazing. The music sound wonderful. This is great. I'm really excited right now. ;D
YES YES YES IT LOOKS SOOOO AMAZING! Oh my goodness I'm really, really, really hyped for this game. More variety, still seems like a good story, the legendaries look gorgeous, (If Articuno has a role in the story again I'll be super happy) and the music is amazing! Great thing to wake up to this morning. Seems that I was wrong on it being PMD Ultra though in japan... Likely because I thought super and Ultra looked the same in Japanese.
...Now the hardest part of it all, waiting a month or two after the JP release. Sadly while I do know a bit of Japanese I'm no master, so if I were to translate the text in the trailer myself to romanji it would take a while, and then translating the romanji to rough english would take even longer for me. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a fan translated version from someone better than me in a few weeks or so, but if not, I can try translating key parts, even though it likely wouldn't be as good as from those who know more than me...
MY TWO TOWN THEORY IS AT LAST CONFIRMED!!!!!
(See how there are
TWO Kecleon shops -- in entirely different places!?)
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This whole SUPER thing was no joke after all.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 31, 2015, 10:48:20 AMI can try translating key parts, even though it likely wouldn't be as good as from those who know more than me...
I'd like to know if the text indicates the player is an amnesiac again, or keeps their memories like in Gates?
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Yes, all of the starters are back! I don't see evidence of the personality quizzes, but I'm happy we have all of the damn Pokemon in the game this time.
Quote from: Bespinben on May 31, 2015, 11:44:56 AMI'd like to know if the text indicates the player is an amnesiac again, or keeps their memories like in Gates?
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(http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/2.jpg)
(http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/12.jpg)
From my understanding and (limited) knowledge, the first picture translates to "Eh!? What's that!?" like it's an unknown reflection.
Translating the second one now, will edit when done
EDIT: Second one's very complicated for me due to the presence of Katakana which I don't know yet. Regardless I tried anyway and it seems to roughly translate to "Did I really become a Pokemon?" Not 100% sure but wouldn't surprise me considering the nature of the game
EDIT 2: Looked around the internet some more and PMD2 Nostalgia aside, a few people in comment sections claims that the other NPCs are talking about pokemon suddenly becoming petrified and turned to stone, which may be the story focus. Also Piplup apparently is upset because children can't join exploration teams? Seems a bit strange to me, but hopefully we'll have an english version soon so we can be 100% certain.
Being turned into stone? Damn, that's... wow.
I wonder if it will turn out totally irrelevant like the being turned to stone plot in Miracle Mask did
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Just glancing at the video, it looks like the Belly stat has returned. Yay@
And this time around, there appear to be "investigation teams" (which seem to be investigating that petrification thing which will probably give those statue fetish people more stuff to work with...
Lugia also mentions Legendary Pokémon going "here", which I guess is that cloud sky place thingy?
Quote from: InsigTurtle on May 31, 2015, 04:18:21 PMwhich will probably give those statue fetish people more stuff to work with...
wait is this actually a thing i'm laughing
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 31, 2015, 04:20:52 PMwait is this actually a thing i'm laughing
Considering that this is the internet, I wouldn't be surprised.
Quote from: Latios212 on May 31, 2015, 07:26:28 AM- The music sounds great just like I'd expect! I'm going to guess this is the opening theme.
LET IT BEGIN
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The PMD music quest shall never end!
Quote from: Bespinben on May 31, 2015, 05:12:18 PMLET IT BEGIN
*Music*
The PMD music quest shall never end!
Oh Bespi, you overachiever!
Quote from: InsigTurtle on May 31, 2015, 04:18:21 PMwhich will probably give those statue fetish people more stuff to work with...
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Wait, what? and I thought Ys II's petrification scene was boring. Can't believe that there are crazy people out there addicted to odd things
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Perfect.
Yay! A translated (and slightly different) video + commentary! Watch starting around 5:40!
Mostly things we've already confirmed yesterday (thanks, translators!), but it's nice to have things translated.
- Pikachu staring into water has just been turned into a Pokémon. (Surprise!) The text "Have I become a Pokémon?!" kind of indicates they have some previous memory.
- Pokémon have been turning to stone.
- Piplup is sad because kids aren't allowed to join the "Expedition Society", whatever that may be.
They did seem to omit a lot of the legendary Pokémon's quotes, though.
Also I think the opening theme plays further in than yesterday! It's a little hard to hear when the guy's talking though and we still aren't shown the ending of it...
Quote from: Latios212 on June 01, 2015, 07:44:37 AMYay! A translated (and slightly different) video + commentary! Watch starting around 5:40!
Mostly things we've already confirmed yesterday (thanks, translators!), but it's nice to have things translated.
- Pikachu staring into water has just been turned into a Pokémon. (Surprise!) The text "Have I become a Pokémon?!" kind of indicates they have some previous memory.
- Pokémon have been turning to stone.
- Piplup is sad because kids aren't allowed to join the "Expedition Society", whatever that may be.
They did seem to omit a lot of the legendary Pokémon's quotes, though.
Also I think the opening theme plays further in than yesterday! It's a little hard to hear when the guy's talking though and we still aren't shown the ending of it...
YES!
YES!
ARTICUNO HAS A ROLE IN THE STORY
Ahhhh, I'm even more excited for this game after seeing the english footage. Winter can't come soon enough...
EDIT: Preorders available now. http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Super-Mystery-Dungeon-Nintendo-3DS/dp/B00YC7DZP4/ref=sr_1_7?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1433179575&sr=1-7&tag=ninten0ee-20
Oh sweet, I'll pre-order soon then.
Quote from: Latios212 on June 01, 2015, 07:44:37 AMMostly things we've already confirmed yesterday (thanks, translators!), but it's nice to have things translated.
- Pokémon have been turning to stone.
In the anime, anyone who had their life energy completely drained by Yveltal would become petrified
(ex: Movie 17 [also Movie 1 is comparable])
u cri evrytiem
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The spin-off games have taken inspiration from the anime on multiple occasions, so I'm thinking Yveltal is at least one of many culpable culprits.
Quote from: Bespinben on June 01, 2015, 12:49:00 PMIn the anime, anyone who had their life energy completely drained by Yveltal would become petrified
(ex: Movie 17 [also Movie 1 is comparable])
u cri evrytiem
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The spin-off games have taken inspiration from the anime on multiple occasions, so I'm thinking Yveltal is at least one of many culpable culprits.
Let's hope that this time Yveltal is more menacing and he doesn't simply turn someone to stone only to have them revived a minute later. I hated that about the Diancie movie the most, as he could have been a total threat in that movie.
In my opinion though I hope it's Hoopa Unbound, since that would make for an epic final boss fight.
mewtwo turned ash to stone in the first movie
Wailord is watching.
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Quote from: Bespinben on June 02, 2015, 12:31:39 AMWailord is watching.
Box art just in:
Box art
(http://i.imgur.com/M336rcA.png)
Best box art I've seen in a decade.
Not sure if anyone has posted this, but the Pokémon USA official Facebook page confirms that there will be 20 potential Pokémon as starters. The only one I can see as definitely in is Pikachu, as the screenshot released alongside that statement basically confirms it.
I think in a screen shot I saw Pikachu, all the starters, and Riolu?
Quote from: Nebbles on June 02, 2015, 10:30:47 AMI think in a screen shot I saw Pikachu, all the starters, and Riolu?
Yeah, that's right.
Kinda sad there's no Eevee or Skitty :c Those were my favorite starters to get in PMD2.
OH MY GOD DO I CHOOSE TREECKO, SNIVY OR CHESPIN???? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PICK HOW AM I SUPPOSED
Charmander.
Hmm. It'll be tough to choose lol
If they do a personality quiz or something like that, I could just keep going until I got a Grass Pokémon. That'd work
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 02, 2015, 01:55:01 PMIf they do a personality quiz or something like that, I could just keep going until I got a Grass Pokémon. That'd work
from the trailer, I'm guessing they aren't going to have the quiz. All the available Pokemon were together in a sort of selection wheel. Sucks cuz I like the quiz, but I didn't like resetting over and over to get the Pokemon I wanted.
Yeah the quiz was only needed for me once, in the original games as during that point in my life I had just been through numerous rough times and it really helped me to feel like myself. Nowadays I prefer a choice but the impact was still strong.
Speaking of which I may consider typing up a entire plot prediction soon...
Plus, the music for the quizzes were so lovely.
Japanese Preorder info (Thanks to Serebii)
"First, if you purchase the physical or the download copy, you will get a Nintendo 3DS theme featuring the package illustration drawn by Ken Sugimori
Second, if you purchase the physical version, you'll get a set of 3D stickers using illustrations from the box art, also drawn by Ken Sugimori
Finally, if you purchase the download version, you'll get a second Nintendo 3DS theme for your home screen
We'll provide full details and images of these bonuses as and when they are released."
So it seems the artwork will be similar to the box art of RT/Explorers, where it was drawn by Ken Sugimori. Neat info! Hope it looks good. The 3DS Home themes make me very excited as well.
Nice! PMD home themes sounds really awesome.
whenever I see "illus. Ken Sugimori" I think, "Oh, that's how they look in the video game"
I love Ken Sugimori's art... I WANT THOSE STICKERS
I freaking love this new Title Theme. Reminds me a lot of the style of the Gates to Infinity "Opening" (which leads me to believe maybe at least 1 or 2 people got carried over from the composition staff). It starts off with a bombastic arrangement of the iconic Rescue Team motif, introduces the game's own motifs at first very charmingly but gradually growing in splendor, and then it finally breaks out with a glorious trumpet solo before the music tapers out at the end (jerks!).
[3DS] Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon:
{NEW} "Title Theme" (Beta)
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/SuperPMD%20-%20Title%20Theme%20%28beta%29.mus) [MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/SuperPMD%20-%20Title%20Theme%20%28beta%29.mid) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/SuperPMD%20-%20Title%20Theme%20%28beta%29.pdf) [MP3] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/SuperPMD%20-%20Title%20Theme%20%28beta%29.mp3)
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/bespinben/title-theme-beta?in=bespinben/sets/pok-mon-super-mystery-dungeon[/soundcloud]
Have some hype:
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... and I'm really digging the new Town Square design (especially the circle thingy in the middle)!
The drought of news has re-ignited my speculation/wishlisting fuels once again.
The general feeling I get is that Pokémon Co. is going to really try advertise Super Mystery Dungeon big time. That their "big announcement" of a new game back in April turned out to be THIS GAME is my reasoning.
If that is the case, then I think Pokémon Co. needs to pull another Pokémon Ranger. What does that mean? It means bridging the imaginary gap between spin-offs and the main series. Remember how the only way to get a Manaphy in Diamond/Pearl versions was to import an egg over from Pokémon Ranger? By doing this, it forced main series collect-em-all-ers to investigate the then brand new spin-off title -- and it worked.
So how might Super Mystery Dungeon tie into the main series, and if it did, what kind of incentive would it provide?
Gates to Infinity opened the door already for bridging the gap between PMD-Earth and normal Earth, but it never did anything with the concept, and in all honesty, it couldn't, because the hidden implication in GtI was that "human world" was very literally REAL LIFE due to the 4th wall demolition. HOWEVER, if Super Mystery Dungeon follows after the vein of Explorers (and it seems to be doing that a great degree already), we can expect the Player Character to be moreso an avatar rather than You Yourself. In such a setting, making an in-game connection to the main-series world would be possible because the "human world" could simply just be the main series world.
As for a possible storyline, perhaps it could be some sort of post-credits mission with the Expedition Society deciding to investigate some interdimensional rift created by Hoopa. This would lead to some kind of experiment of sending a parcel through to "the other side", and perhaps in X/Y 2, Z, or Delta Emerald, there would be an event programmed into the game that, by receiving this unknown parcel from another dimension, it would be the key to unlocking said event. Maybe Volcanion? Maybe the parcel could contain a super OP Rescue Badge that would be extremely useful in competitive battling? who knows...
Pokémon Co. has their opportunity to draw in the fragmented Pokémon fanbase to one of the longest running spinoffs in the entire franchise. Will they pull it off? I sure hope so.
Making any attempt to meld the stories of the main series with the spinoffs would be such a dumb and, for me, disappointing move. As much as I love PMD it's not worthy of being called a true Pokémon game like the actual main series are. It's simply not even in the same tier or caliber, not to mention that the development teams are totally different--Chunsoft doesn't have the rights to the individual contents of the Pokémon regions, for instance. It's not going to happen.
I agree it probably won't happen.
However, the main series and spinoffs HAVE already melded once - through Pokémon Ranger. It even got it's own movie (why can't PMD have a movie?). This is a fact that can't be ignored. It might not work for Mystery Dungeon specifically, but I see no reason to have this imaginary line drawn up between spin-offs and main series when that barrier HAS ALREADY been torn down once, with success.
Unless you didn't like the Pokémon Ranger movie or the exclusivity of the Manaphy egg. Then my point is moot.
Ohhhhh I forgot about the Manaphy Egg hmm. My points are moot too then, probably. I'm still iffy about the idea though.
I'm surprised I was the first one to see this, Bespinben.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8nnxYvwrhQ
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Is that a personality quiz?
Personality quiz is back, and my decade old wish for wordlewide physical travel came true.
I'm think I'm going to explode.
Translation of trailer dialogue and text (thank you Reddit):
What they say on-screen will be quoted, what the announcer says will be normal.
An adventure on a scale never seen before! (title) One day, you have been turned into a Pokemon, and join a research team with your partner, who has a map they want to fulfil.
Pikachu: Eh? What's this?! Somehow... I've become a Pokemon?! Eeeehhh~~?! Piplup: Join a research team and explore a bunch of places... And someday, I'll >finish my map of the world's stars!
Before long, you are head off into an adventure where you explore many dungeons with your partner, and explore the vast world.
Piplup: Whoa! The calm village makes you feel like smiling, doesn't it?
Before you begin, you must answer several questions given to you.
Answer the questions honestly... Let's awake the Pokemon sleeping within! It's a nerve-wracking first day at school... What want the people you'll be friends >with to be like? In the same class./They'll chat with me./ I wonder if they'll greet me?/ I'm nervous.
By answering these, you choose yourself and your partner.
What Pokemon would you like your partner to be? Cool!/Cute! There are 20 different Pokemon to choose from! You're Pikachu! Pikachu: Whoa! Look at that!
Go, with your partner, to the Mystery Dungeons!
It's a monster house! These mysterious dungeons change shape each time you journey inside. It's a spinning trap! Pikachu's confused! Snivy warped!
[The screen with the connections lists pokemon you've met, which is 52.] There are over 720 Pokemon, all Pokemon, appearing onscreen.
All 720 Pokemon appear onscreen!
Combine powers with your allies, use tools, and work through formidable dungeons.
Riolu used the Role Call Orb! [The Forest is called 'Yesterday's Forest'] Snivy use the Sleep Branch!
During your adventure, there is a dreadful case of Pokemon being turned to stone, one by one.
Lombre: Recently, there's been incidents of Pokemon being turned to stone. Piplup: Ehh?! Pokemon to stone?! Latios: Keep up! Latias! Kyogre: Stonified...?
Both legendary and illusory Pokemon are being turned to stone, by a mysterious power.
Lugia: Both legendary and illusionary Pokemon have come here... Zekrom: We... have been turned to stone... Reshiram: Who's work is this? Dialga: Also... from where?
This envelops the lives of all the Pokemon in the world.
Deoxys: That's...! Gaaaah! So, what has happened... on this planet?
It's an adventure with unimaginable Pokemon, on an unimaginable scale!
Arceus: This needs the concentration of all the Pokemon in the world... Piplup: Gyaaaaa!
I have officially experienced Nirvana
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Proof
(http://imgur.com/DXAAeLy.png)
Rescue Team is back.
HOLY SHIT
Bespinben's face right now:
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PERSONALITY TEST YEAAAAH
I'm interested in the screen with the web of Pokémon and how it's organized.
AND THEY DID THE WAILORD THING AGAIN EXCEPT THIS TIME WAILORD FALLS OUT OF THE SKY
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Honestly, I can't think of a single gripe right now everything about this game so far is amazing
...multiple things.
First, DARN YOU CHUNSOFT I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A PLOT PREDICTION NOW I HAVE TO RESTART IT
Second, THE WORLD IS HUGE AGAIN YES
Third: Personality Quiz is back? Argh... Better be optional.
Fourth: The trailer music sounds EPIC yet again!
Fifth: Plot looks epic, hope it also will be as dark as GTI.
Sixth: RESCUE TEAM CONTINENT CONFIRMED!!!
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Ever since I was young I had a theory that Explorers took place on a western continent while rescue team took place in the east. Did I see the future?
Also, if RRT'S region is returning, I hope they do something Like Ys IV where they completely remaster some of the OST.
Like how this:
became THIS:
I'm finally excited again for a Pokemon game. Last time I was this excited was when GTI was confirmed. Shows you how much faith I had in Gen VI...
I suppose I can also use this chance to prepare my "Feel the superior wrath of PMD!" rant when people inevitably complain about the lack of Pokemon Z at E3.
YAAAY!!!!!! I'M SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW. I MADE ALL OF MY FRIENDS WATCH THE TRAILER WITH ME! YES, THE CAPS ARE NECESSARY! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S THE RESCUE TEAM CONTINENT! YAY! ;D
Now for the hardest choice of all time. Who should be my partner, Squirt (Rescue Team) or Mudkip?
Also, female Charmander had better be Brave nature this time too. I would hate for this to be the first one I had to lie on.
Also, YAAAY!!!!!
Holy shit (^_^)b
Personality quiz is actually exciting news for me though I've voiced iffy opinions on it. I'll just take whatever I'm given. I'm always chosen as Sassy though so I'm sure it'll be whatever that is
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 09, 2015, 09:14:51 AMSixth: RESCUE TEAM CONTINENT CONFIRMED!!!
Also, if RRT'S region is returning, I hope they do something... where they completely remaster some of the OST.
I'm so stoked to revisit Great Canyon and its glorious music...
(anyone notice in the English trailer a week ago there was a dungeon that looked kinda like Great Canyon?)
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I have to wonder... will this be a prequel or sequel to Red/Blue Rescue Team? I'm thinking sequel, 10 years in the future, 'cuz, ya know, Nintendo loves to do that sort of stuff (*cough*SkywardSwordxZelda25anniversary*cough*)
Okay I'm all for speculation and I don't mean to sound like a prick but don't compare Pokémon with other Nintendo titles as it is developed by Game Freak, separately from Nintendo, and is only published by Nintendo. That's a pet peeve of mine. This one isn't even really developed by Game Freak, though, so it's even further removed from Nintendo.
Quote from: Bespinben on June 09, 2015, 10:44:13 AMI'm so stoked to revisit Great Canyon and its glorious music...
(anyone notice in the English trailer a week ago there was a dungeon that looked kinda like Great Canyon?)
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I have to wonder... will this be a prequel or sequel to Red/Blue Rescue Team? I'm thinking sequel, 10 years in the future, 'cuz, ya know, Nintendo loves to do that sort of stuff (*cough*SkywardSwordxZelda25anniversary*cough*)
I'm thinking Sequel. Everything seems a bit "clean" on the RRT continent, implying to me that the events of the meteor are now ancient legends. Speaking of which, what if they rereleased RRT/BRT on VC to celebrate and if it detects them on your Nintendo eShop account, your old team will reappear in the story as legendary heroes? Super unlikely but would be neat nonetheless.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 09, 2015, 10:54:02 AMwhat if they rereleased RRT/BRT on VC to celebrate and if it detects them on your Nintendo eShop account, your old team will reappear in the story as legendary heroes? Super unlikely but would be neat nonetheless.
I had been thinking about how SuperPMD is now essentially the Gold/Silver "Johto" to Rescue Team's "Kanto", which led me to fantasizing of final boss battle against YOURSELF (i.e. the PMD equivalent of fighting Red atop Mt. Silver). I had avoided the thought of if they would include the Hero/Partner of PMD1 though because EVERYONE's set is different... but with your idea that actually makes it work. The only problem is that if you do that, then it raises the question of is the PMD1 Hero YOU, or is your SuperPMD Hero YOU? (Or neither, Gates considered)
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 09, 2015, 10:17:01 AMI'm always chosen as Sassy though
^^^
(but yeah I see what you mean about not comparing separate business entities)
SHIT SON THE PERSONALITY QUIZ IS BACK
Quote from: Bespinben on June 09, 2015, 11:02:13 AMI had been thinking about how SuperPMD is now essentially the Gold/Silver "Johto" to Rescue Team's "Kanto", which led me to fantasizing of final boss battle against YOURSELF (i.e. the PMD equivalent of fighting Red atop Mt. Silver). I had avoided the thought of if they would include the Hero/Partner of PMD1 though because EVERYONE's set is different... but with your idea that actually makes it work. The only problem is that if you do that, then it raises the question of is the PMD1 Hero YOU, or is your SuperPMD Hero YOU? (Or neither, Gates considered)
Yeah that would be an issue. I'm not expecting it, but maybe this game will be the one that reveals the mysteries of the hero Lucario? Maybe HE'S the ultimate challenge, being hailed as a legendary hero even back in Rescue Team, before Gen IV existed. The RRT continent gives me hope that piece of the story will finally be revealed.
It would also be neat if he had his own battle theme that fits with his strength, as if it was a desperate battle with an indestructible hero. Something along the lines of this would fit well in my opinion.
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Oh cool, the B/RRT Continent. I wonder if that would allow them to erroneously link ORAS and B/RRT via meteor?
Neat.
Well I finally got a USB keyboard for my Wii U so I suppose I can give my plot prediction and hopes for this game early! It'll be quite long, so I hope you don't mind lots of detail and speculation. Of course none is this is confirmed and it's likely that these things won't happen in the game at all, or in the order i'm guessing them to happen in.
First off, just for fun, two cool composers that I would love to see in this game, along with an example of their prior work. even if it's EXTREMELY unlikely, it's still fun to hope.
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Ryo Yonemitsu: Famous for remixing Falcom music. He hasn't done anything in a while though, and I can't find any data on whether he's active as a composer or not. Regardless, his talent would be neat to see in a game like this.
Example: A Still time (Ys I-II, PC Engine CD, 1990) I feel it would be neat to see a song of this beauty in the game somehow. While we have advanced past the age of Redbook audio, that still doesn't mean relaxing songs like this couldn't be made for PSMD, even if it's unlikely that Yonemitsu would do it.
Yoko Shimomura: Famous for a LOT of JRPG soundtracks, most notably Kingdom Hearts. I think we would all like someone of her talent and experience lending a hand with this soundtrack.
Example: MEGALOMANIA (Live a Live, 1994, Super Famicom) You are probably confused on why I picked an obscure song from an obscure game instead of one of her more recent songs as an example. Well, in my opinion I think we need some change in the boss music. Having the same theme for four games now is a bit silly. What better way to change it up than to have an intense, epic theme similar to this to get everyone excited for an upcoming boss battle, made by a legendary composer? It would certainly be a nice change of pace for her considering how she's mostly known for more emotional songs in this day and age.
With my "Dream Team" composers out of the way, here's my "Not likely but still fun to speculate based off of the trailer" plot predictions. Let me know what you think about my predictions, on if some of them may be likely from what we know, or if some of these are rather crazy. E3 is next week, so it's likely there will be a demo for the press. Maybe then we can see if I got some of these things right!
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Plot Predictions: Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon
-Game would begin with a legend of sorts, going over the events that have happened in the prior games (the RRT continent in the trailer leads me to believe it'll mention every major game in the series.) Explorers would be the first in the timeline, followed by Gates to Infinity, then Rescue Team before finally PSMD. Squad doesn't count. Current timeline is the good future from Explorers.
-Human would find herself in a mysterious dream, where the quiz takes place. Option to skip the quiz and go straight to what the player feels is best. After the duo is picked the player would emerge next to a lake, and discover that he/she is a Pokemon now. Would meet the partner shortly afterwards, who wants to join an exploration society for an unexplained reason.
-The partner was told by a group of "experts" that they can't join due to their ages, making him/her demotivated. The player would explain that they should try anyway to help others, as they go through a simple dungeon to find a lost item.
-The duo succeeds and learns that they can join, in fact they are encouraged to due to the incidents of pokemon turning to stone. They enter the "Grass village" and sign up, becoming a team.
-The next day after filler missions the duo learns that the "experts" who made the partner sad earlier are actually jerks that can't do anything, meaning they would be the Team Skull of this game.
-They do more missions as the player wonders why he is in the world of pokemon, as the partner overhears, mentioning how he isn't sure either, as her parents disappeared ages ago, and she wanted to be an explorer to find them.
-The next day the townsfolk report on how the town guardian, Shaymin (Chosen due to being a grass legendary) was turned to stone after strange visitors arrived. The duo enter a nearby cave to investigate and discover the evil team of this game. The evil team run away as the duo gives chase, before losing them and ending up in the "Desert Village". They learn that this town has not been hit by the petrification, as they decide to stay and help protect the town from those mysterious thieves.
-After a few more dungeons and minor tasks, they learn that the trio of mysterious pokemon return, as the duo decides to stop them from hurting the guardian of the town. They enter Mespirit's domain as the encounter the evil trio, who wants the energy from the Mespirit, They successfully turn her to stone as one of the members battle your team, before losing quickly. The team is warped out just in time before being turned to stone.
-Understanding that they cannot defeat the evil trio without learning more, the duo decide to head to other villages and warn them about the danger.
-The duo enters a volcano, before being stopped by Entei, who is on the side of the evil trio for some reason. They battle and defeat him as they move on to the "Fire village".
-The duo warns the town about the evil trio, encouraging them to heavily guard the town. They do so just in time to block an incoming petrification attack. With the job done, they do a few more missions to help the town before learning from the town guardian, Ho-Oh that long ago there were attempts to throw the pokemon world in peril, but each time a human saved the day. Ho-Oh tells the player that he is the one who must save the world from the worst danger yet. To learn more about the legend, they are told to find lapras.
-The defenses are broken as the trio turns everyone in the village besides the Kecleon and team into stone. They leave the Fire village and head back to the Grass Village.
-Luckily nobody else was turned to stone due to Shaymin's power being all that was needed. The society recommends heading west to find Lapras, and to consult the guild for help.
-The duo head through many, many dungeons to get to the Guild, where they meet the new guildmaster, who tells them that ages ago three heroes went and found lapras to go to the hidden land and restore time. She guides them to the beach cave where Lapras takes them to the Hidden Land.
-At the Hidden Land, the three are horrified to find it destroyed, but luckily the rainbow stoneship was still working, as the duo head to Temporal Tower, where they meet the trio at the top. Two members leave to attack the other regions, while one fights the duo, who defeats him. However Dialga is still turned to stone as he tells them to hurry east and warn Rayquaza.
-Leaving Temporal Tower, Lapras takes them to the RRT continent, where they go into Pokemon Square and warn everyone. Team ACT, still alive tells them to head to Great Canyon, and find Xatu who can help them with their quest.
-The duo heads to Great Canyon and meets Xatu, who tells them the world is in calamity again, as a big threat is about the destroy the world. Mentioning the RRT team who saved the world long ago, he teleports the duo to Sky Tower, where they scale it before finding another member of the evil trio at the top.
-This member explains how they need the energy of Rayquaza's true form to power up their master, Yveltal. Forcing Rayquaza to Mega Evolve, Rayquaza attacks the duo. Unable to hurt Rayquaza, it seems like they are about to die at his wrath, before Xerneas comes and heals him, saving him from petrification as the evil member gets mad, before fighting your team himself. You battle him and defeat him before Xerneas tells you that one last member remains, in Post town to the north. She teleports you there before telling you that an item owned by the voice of life can restore all petrified pokemon to normal.
-Arriving in post town, they learn that everybody has been turned to stone, as the last evil member fled to Glacial Tower which has appeared yet again. Unable to reach the tower, they seek the voice of life.
-However on the way, they get stopped by the team of "experts" from earlier, who are after the Voice of Life as well for the sole purpose of getting rich. After an easy battle, the Voice of Life appears, as Hydregion, explaining how the only way to get to the Glacial tower is by meeting Lugia and the legendary birds, who can take them to the tower. Hydregion gives the duo a bell that when hit at the top of Glacial Tower, will restore all pokemon turned to stone back to normal.
-Going through another dungeon, the Partner reveals that her parents were explorers long ago as well, before passing away one day, after going missing for months. They weren't actually still missing, but it was just a lie made to get you to join the partner with his dream. Understanding her grief, you tell her that you will always be there to help her.
-At the end of the dungeon, you meet the four legendaries. Lugia takes you to Glacial tower, as the legendary birds turn to stone. Time is running out, so the duo must hurry!
-Arriving at the tower, it has completely changed from last time due to the influence of Yveltal. Scaling the tower, the duo discovers the last member of the evil trio fighting Kyruem, who warns them that Reshiram and Zekrom are in grave danger before turning to stone. The last member then steals your bell and breaks it, as Reshiram and Zekrom turn to stone.
-Arceus watches from above, nervous at the state of the world as he notices the final member going back to the RRT Continent. Suddenly he's turned to stone by a mysterious force, causing the whole world to slow down, with many areas being petrified.
-Worried sick, the partner fears for the fate of his home village, the Grass area. Returning there thanks to Lugia, they discover it's completely petrified, as the forces of Yveltal begin to grow. Determined to stop him from getting full power, the duo heads back to the RRT continent, where they find Latios and Latias, very nervous due to the growing spread of petrification. If it keeps up, everybody will turn to stone forever.
-Xerneas reappears, stating how there's still hope. If they journey to the newly relocated Wish Cave and tell Jirachi their wish, then everyone can be restored for good.
-Rayquaza goes into space after discovering a strange, familiar disturbance in space. Flying by Deoxys, he discovers that a mysterious pokemon is causing the petrification to strengthen, and it isn't Yveltal. Nervous, he rushes to the duo's side, before being stopped by Deoxys who thinks he's a threat, before being defeated and weakened, unable to warn them.
-Going into the wish cave, they discover the final member trying to get Jirachi to fulfill his wish of infinite power to Yveltal, but is refused due to having a heart of darkness. The duo fights the final member, as he's defeated. They make a wish to purify everyone, as the world is returned to normal. Warning them that Yveltal is dangerous, they go to make their final journey, entering the dark crater and encountering Yveltal. After a super close battle to the finish, they discover that Yveltal meant no harm, and was being controlled by Giratina, who was also controlling the three legendary dogs. After another battle with Entei and the other two, the final battle against Giratina begins. After defeating both of his forms with the power of all pokemon on earth, the situation seems to be over.
-Back in their home town, the duo is welcomed home by the other residents, who thank them for saving the entire planet. Suddenly, the player begins to glow, as he is told by Xerneas that his duty is complete, and he should now return to the Pokemon World. As the Player says farewell, he returns back to his world, ending the main game...
...And that's my very long, random prediction on the main game of PSMD. I feel there will be a long post game, so expect an even more crazy prediction for the post game too. Still, what do you guys think the story will be? I'd love to see what others think this game's epic story will be, so share your predictions as our hype continues.
sounds like a pokemon mystery dungeon game
It can't be just a coincidence that the maps between Rescue Team and PSMD are similar. There will likely be some sort of connection.
Moar news/official artwork!
http://www.serebii.net/news/2015/12-June-2015.shtml (http://www.serebii.net/news/2015/12-June-2015.shtml)
3DS theme
(http://www.serebii.net/corocoro7154.jpg)
Mega Evolution
(http://www.serebii.net/corocoro7155.jpg)
SCARVES
(http://www.serebii.net/corocoro7156.jpg)
RIP post game theory of a Mega Evolution story. My predictions are not as likely as hoped. Oh well. That 3DS theme looks gorgeous though!
And this is likely obvious when examining the Hoopa pictures, but you can recruit Legendary pokemon again it seems. Notice the green "Ally" circle underneath Hoopa Unbound.
I wonder how mega evolution will be integrated into the main story...
Ken Sugimori has touched SuperPMD. Guaranteed success now.
This might be stretching it, but if you invert the PMD2 Explorers map backwards (left becomes right, right becomes left), there are a few places on the "new" continent of Super Mystery Dungeon that match up.
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/pokemon_super_mystery_dungeon___super_nostalgic__by_guyromaster-d8wnamb_zpstf89bwkg.gif) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/pokemon_super_mystery_dungeon___super_nostalgic__by_guyromaster-d8wnamb_zpstf89bwkg.gif.html)
(Treasure Town, the mountain range, Blizzard Island - to name a few.......... if so, the Lapras you ride just might be the same Lapras from PMD2!?!?)
Oh maaannnn the hype is hella real
Seems like my east and west theory may be right! Now let's see GTI areas return too
Character art:
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/pokemon/150615_01.html#
(it's the same as in the magazine, but better quality)
Also game screenshots, and plot details
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/about/150615_01.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/story/150615_01.html#
Sugimori you wonderful person you.....
(new avatar?)
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/superpochama_zps7lgxighq.png) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/superpochama_zps7lgxighq.png.html)
OH MY GOSH THE TOWN ART
OH MY GOSH THE CHARMANDER
OH MY GOSH THE PANCHAM
All hail the might boxart!(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/allhailboxart_zpsrdjjm5ac.png) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/allhailboxart_zpsrdjjm5ac.png.html)
Source:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aJLLEPq_0U
The blue branching thing at the top gives off some serious Xerneas vibes.... I SENSE PLOT PREDiCTIONS
Quote from: Bespinben on June 15, 2015, 08:49:39 AMAll hail the might boxart!
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/allhailboxart_zpsrdjjm5ac.png) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/allhailboxart_zpsrdjjm5ac.png.html)
Source: Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aJLLEPq_0U
The blue branching thing at the top gives off some serious Xerneas vibes.... I SENSE PLOT PREDiCTIONS
My plot prediction for PSMD may be partially right then with Xerneas in the background! Hydregion was on GTI's boxart and he was a main character, so maybe she will be the one who summoned the player. But the fact that the pictures indicate that your partner's biggest dream is to create a world map means that there's likely a lot of things I didn't get right. Oh well, I can make up for it with a post game prediction. The box art is absolutely gorgeous!
Oh yeah, There is an Nintendo Network logo on the box. Meaning we'll have one of the following:
-Online multiplayer/rescues
-DLC (Seems likely due to GTI and EMD)
-Miiverse
There's also new pics and some of them are interesting.
Spoiler
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/50.jpg)
Look at the top right. Seems to be a death counter of sorts. Very interesting, would certainly change things up.
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/38.jpg)
Something ancient on that stone it seems.
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/26.jpg)
Unknown sad moment
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/28.jpg)
The "Experts" I mentioned in my prediction, or just some townsfolk having fun?
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/23.jpg)
Grass village house confirmed
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/24.jpg)
Full View of The Grass Village
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/31.jpg)
Giant tree that reminds me a lot of Roda from Ys I. Wonder if it'll be important in the story?
Oh, that thing on the top right is a Belly counter. The text's just telling you to hurry the fuck up and eat something because damn son you're hungry. Not in that tone, of course :P
Although, that meter isn't present in the rest of the screenshots... except for those at the end of one of the pages I linked, that belly meter pops up when it warns you that you're getting hungry. So I guess it's present in all dungeons, but it's hidden unless you're famished?
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 15, 2015, 10:19:09 AMThere's also new pics and some of them are interesting.
Spoiler
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/50.jpg)
Look at the top right. Seems to be a death counter of sorts. Very interesting, would certainly change things up.
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/38.jpg)
Something ancient on that stone it seems.
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/26.jpg)
Unknown sad moment
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/28.jpg)
The "Experts" I mentioned in my prediction, or just some townsfolk having fun?
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/23.jpg)
Grass village house confirmed
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/24.jpg)
Full View of The Grass Village
(http://serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/31.jpg)
Giant tree that reminds me a lot of Roda from Ys I. Wonder if it'll be important in the story?
Yay translations!
ENGRISH much!
(http://pre03.deviantart.net/2492/th/pre/f/2015/165/d/e/super_strange_dungeon__screen_translate___by_elfcoach-d8xcq7u.png)
Too much Engrish I think.
Reminds me of this:
Spoiler
(http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Vietnamese-Crystal/Update%2001/2-What003.png)
(http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Vietnamese-Crystal/Update%2001/11-What024.png)
(http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Vietnamese-Crystal/Update%2003/54-Rude114.png)
(http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Vietnamese-Crystal/Update%2003/55-Rude115.png)
(source: lparchive)
Quote from: InsigTurtle on June 16, 2015, 12:26:21 AMReminds me of this:
Spoiler
(http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Vietnamese-Crystal/Update%2001/2-What003.png)
(http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Vietnamese-Crystal/Update%2001/11-What024.png)
(http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Vietnamese-Crystal/Update%2003/54-Rude114.png)
(http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Vietnamese-Crystal/Update%2003/55-Rude115.png)
(source: lparchive)
Haha, I love Pokemon Vietmanese Crystal!
Here's what PSMD's voice acting quality would likely be like if it got voice acting
Spoiler
(Yes this is from a real game, not a fandub)
Never forget the odd days of Voice acting. While I do think it would be nice to have in PMD I wouldn't want it to be this silly.
Nintendo's E3 is not too far away. Hopefully we hear more PSMD news.
That's nothing.
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-TPhBIuTJc
Crappy voice acting and a crappy script all at once. And this was a AAA release. Not to mention it came out nearly 10 years later.
New English trailer! Honestly, why they didn't show this at E3 is beyond me.
(Though, I still feel like pulling my hair out with how crappy the English marketing team is.... like, wood paneling? Seriously?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPQW-qc67pE
English boxart came out pretty decent too:
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/PSMDboxartEng_zpssx9643cy.png) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/PSMDboxartEng_zpssx9643cy.png.html)
They JUST wrapped up a treehouse live segment, Interesting details:
-Genders are back
-You are apparently found by a Nuzleaf
-Your Partner meets you later outside his home
-Village has a name, Serene Village
-Your Partner is OBSESSED with Exploration. Like, really badly.
-Your Partner has a dad. Carracoasta.
-First mission is saving goomy
-Later on you and your partner go to a lava area, where there seems to be a Drilbur guarding something underneath. Will my "Protect the fire village" theory be realized?
-Tiny Reviver Seeds are new
-Hunger is in the main story
Nothing mindblowing, still a Holiday 2015 release for the west but I'm still super excited!
That music style is pretty GTI-like and more orchestral. I kind of miss the quirky chords used in the previous games, though.
Wait, a Carracosta? Is your partner supposed to be a Tirtouga?
Well, it could an adoptive father of sorts, if you choose whatever Pokemon they are from the choices.
Yeah! This seems great!
Still can't decide which water starter my partner should be. :-\
The father will definitely change the relationship between you and your partner, hopefully in a good way!
Treehouse footage for those that missed it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY8POIbj5ok
Carracosta is such a good standard for a father I LOVE it
Side note: my phone wants to autocorrect carracosta to car racists
I just loved how they refer to the partner as "cherished" As odd as she acts in the story it still makes me excited to see the character develop for the partner
Quote from: Bespinben on June 16, 2015, 10:50:31 AMEnglish boxart came out pretty decent too:
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/PSMDboxartEng_zpssx9643cy.png) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/PSMDboxartEng_zpssx9643cy.png.html)
I dunno, that Pikachu looks derpy as all shit to me... O.o
Well, this game's already got one good thing going for it: every Pokemon to date is IN! Now, for faster text speeds and the ability to take on multiple requests at a time and we're on-par with the old games again. ;)
Nice that Mega Charizard Y is getting some love finally
So while I wait for this new game, I'm going to go on a quest to play every Mystery Dungeon game again and report my progress to you guys. Not sure how or where I should do it though, cuz it would probably be kinda spammy to put it here. You guys have any ideas?
Honestly for as much love as that series has on this website, I don't think it's out of the question to have a general Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series thread.
So I was just checking out Bulbapedia's preliminary info on the game, and it says that accessories like scarves/bands will be visible on your character in the overworld and dungeons.
ALL OF MY YES
I AM SO HYPED ABOUT THAT THE BOX ART IS ALWAYS SO CUTE WITH THE SCARVES AND I WAS BITTER I COULDNT MAKE MYSELF WEAR A BOW TIE LIKE THE FREAKIN HOME SCREEN ICON SHOWS ON SNIVY FOR GTI
Ever since that anime special for Rescue Team, I have always wanted to see my character wear the scarves I put on them. Also now that we have more diverse items like the Reunion Cape (which is useless but it could still be cool looking, assuming they make more wearable items like that) it makes for so many neat combinations.
Also Snivy with a bow tie would be fantastic lol
bow hype 2k15
Someone with better eyes than me noticed, but in the treehouse live apparently you can speed up the text if you want to for whatever reason.
Well as long as you're able to full text boxes quickly so you don't have to wait to read the slow crawl of text like in Gates, I see no problem with it.
I loved the slow text crawl. I'm not even joking. After falling in love with Ace Attorney slow moving text is weirdly comforting and even in other games I let it play out slowly.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 20, 2015, 12:48:21 PMI loved the slow text crawl. I'm not even joking. After falling in love with Ace Attorney slow moving text is weirdly comforting and even in other games I let it play out slowly.
That's why I thought the complaints about slow text speed in GTI was silly. It seemed to me that the majority of those complaining could care less about focusing on the story and that they just wanted to skip through it, even though in reality the text speed wasn't nearly as slow as some of the other games I've played. (Like Ys Book I and II where what would be a four minute cutscene ending if you could skip the text is always least ten minutes due to the inability to speed up the text at any point in the game, and since the ending has a ton of text the super slow text speed makes it frustrating to watch when you've completed the game many times already. GTI's text speed was much faster in comparison.) Still, the ability to speed up the text returns, so if those people want to ignore the story entirely because it isn't Sky then they can do so, even though it seems like they'll miss out from what we know so far. That being said if I played through Explorers again I'd likely want to skip everything too, so maybe it is helpful to have that option...
What I REALLY want to know is if they'll allow multiple jobs at once in the same dungeon again. That was one of the few issues I had with GTI.
I wouldn't have a problem with the text if I didn't read faster than it came up on screen. My problem isn't wanting to skip it. Mine is wanting to get it done in a timely fashion.
man I hate that like the beginning of pokemon and stuff, like I read each word 4 times before the next one comes up
Pretty sure you could at least hold down A to speed that up. Can't do that in Gates.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 20, 2015, 04:43:38 PMThat's why I thought the complaints about slow text speed in GTI was silly. It seemed to me that the majority of those complaining could care less about focusing on the story and that they just wanted to skip through it...
It bothered me and I love the storyline. I've got limited time as it is, let alone enough time to sit there for hours watching a cutscene dragged out due to sssslllloooowwww text.
I loved the cutscenes for those games, though! It's just that I'm a fast reader and don't need 5 minutes to contemplate what each sentence means... Gets REAL boring after a while.
The Japanese website for Super Mystery Dungeon has a very subtle feature for the official boxart where the background shows up first and then the Pokémon starters fade-in afterwards (all in about the time of 0.5 seconds). Because of that, I was able to isolate the background itself!
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/superPMDbackground_zps3wxnpnw7.jpg) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/superPMDbackground_zps3wxnpnw7.jpg.html)
Time to make some sweet album art ;]
(P.S. What could the red glow in the center of the Tree mean?)
(P.S.S. I see LOTS of Balls of Light on the right side....)
link?
Quote from: K-NiGhT on June 25, 2015, 01:55:52 PMlink?
To the site, or to my picture? The picture already links to photobucket, but here's the site if you couldn't find it before:
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/#
Quote from: Bespinben on June 25, 2015, 01:42:52 PMThe Japanese website for Super Mystery Dungeon has a very subtle feature for the official boxart where the background shows up first and then the Pokémon starters fade-in afterwards (all in about the time of 0.5 seconds). Because of that, I was able to isolate the background itself!
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/superPMDbackground_zps3wxnpnw7.jpg) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/superPMDbackground_zps3wxnpnw7.jpg.html)
Time to make some sweet album art ;]
(P.S. What could the red glow in the center of the Tree mean?)
(P.S.S. I see LOTS of Balls of Light on the right side....)
That's definitely a sign of a spirit. Xerneas is pretty much guaranteed to be the one who sends you to the Pokemon world.
In other news, MERCHANDISE CONFIRMED
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2015/06/150615_gm01.html
Art Book of Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon coming soon to Japanese Pokemon Centers. Hopefully it comes to the US one.
Merch confirmed??? goodbye money
T____T I neeeed this book...
So I was dreaming about PSMD's launch (Hey I'm not the only one!) and it made me wonder...
"Holiday 2015". What month do you guys think PSMD will launch in NA? I'd love for it to come out on 9/17 for the US and EU along with Japan but it doesn't seem like it's happening. Fall (September to Early October in Nintendo's world) is pretty much likely either, so that leaves the rest as Holiday 2015. For reference, last year SSB Wii U and Captain Toad were labeled as Holiday games, and they launched in November and December respectively.
I really don't want PSMD to launch in December, since it would be 100% impossible to avoid spoilers for three months, and the wait would be more painful than it was for GTI for me, since I literally made a countdown to the GTI launch date and wished every single day until the 24th of March would end quickly so the game was in my hands. That was only three months, but it was during a slow time in school. This time it would be MUCH slower meaning I would lose my mind. October or November release is my hope.
And I swear if it launches on the same day as the pokemon ripoff or xenoblade x I'll be very upset as it may hurt the game's sales. I want PMD to continue forever!
(Or you know, have the games on VC... I could wait if they did that!)
November 21
According to serebii.net (http://serebii.net/news/03-July-2015.shtml):
"On July 10th 20:00 JST through to July 11th 20:00 JST, there will be a 24 hour livestream showcasing past Pokémon Mystery Dungeon titles. This is mostly focused on Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time, but it is also said to feature some content for the upcoming title, Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon."
I am hype. I wonder if this homage to the older games is any implication of possible E-Shop versions in the future?
Oooooh, interesting. I wonder why it's mostly focused on EoT?
Quote from: Bespinben on July 03, 2015, 10:47:56 AMAccording to serebii.net (http://serebii.net/news/03-July-2015.shtml):
"On July 10th 20:00 JST through to July 11th 20:00 JST, there will be a 24 hour livestream showcasing past Pokémon Mystery Dungeon titles. This is mostly focused on Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time, but it is also said to feature some content for the upcoming title, Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon."
I am hype. I wonder if this homage to the older games is any implication of possible E-Shop versions in the future?
Wait what
There better be an announcement of a DS VC release of EOT/EOD/EOS then. I may not care for those games but I'll gladly take them in a heart beat if they get a VC release. Do we know who the host of the stream is? If so, maybe we could send him some tweets of encouragement and hope for a rerelease to celebrate PSMD.
I would like them on VC, actually... that'd be nice.
The Pokémon website pretty much says nothing about who's hosting or playing, but they do say that there's a special guest whose name is あばれる君. I don't know too much about that guy, but maybe y'all do?
Hopefully, someone will put up a Youtube stream of it because Nico Nico is pretty fucking meh in a lot of aspects.
Quote from: InsigTurtle on July 03, 2015, 02:21:03 PMThe Pokémon website pretty much says nothing about who's hosting or playing, but they do say that there's a special guest whose name is あばれる君. I don't know too much about that guy, but maybe y'all do?
Hopefully, someone will put up a Youtube stream of it because Nico Nico is pretty fucking meh in a lot of aspects.
That guy's twitter name is abarerukun. He seems to be a famous actor of sorts.
There was a brief clip of some dungeon music from the 2nd trailer (the pre-E3 one). This music was also in the (hilarious) new commercial ad released yesterday. Someone beat me to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqBkxuafZrY
Someone beat Bespinben to making PMD music?! GASP!
I am impressed. Who the hell did that?
New Pictures! Seems they are going to do it via the Japanese twitter.
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIjjnuVUwAArPId.jpg:small)
go to school
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH2tcMLUcAAdsro.jpg:small)
Grass Village at night
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH6W50VUwAAvzhR.jpg:small)
The map. Lots of places in JUST the first village
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJCUAUmVEAA1soG.jpg:small)
A Poster
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI-zsxUUEAEkabW.jpg:small)
Espurr is here, but why? Unknown.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on July 05, 2015, 08:52:16 PMNew Pictures! Seems they are going to do it via the Japanese twitter.
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIjjnuVUwAArPId.jpg:small)
go to school
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH2tcMLUcAAdsro.jpg:small)
Grass Village at night
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH6W50VUwAAvzhR.jpg:small)
The map. Lots of places in JUST the first village
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJCUAUmVEAA1soG.jpg:small)
A Poster
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI-zsxUUEAEkabW.jpg:small)
Espurr is here, but why? Unknown.
Source: https://twitter.com/Pokemon_cojp
So, I wonder who is going to be the zany, nonchalant, so-derp-he's-genius headhoncho this time? Might SuperPMD surpass the likes of Quagsire or Wigglytuff? Who knows... (though that Simipour looks to be someone of authority...)
Perfect Apples confirmed...
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/nv6ul_zps6v7ohoid.gif) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/nv6ul_zps6v7ohoid.gif.html)
All hail the return of the Grandmaster of All Things Bad!
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/allhailapple_zpst7ge9go4.gif) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/allhailapple_zpst7ge9go4.gif.html)
oh man i can't wait
Rewatching the costume-clad commercial again for the umpteenth time, I happened to notice a NEW scene from the game itself:
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/nv8cx_zps2rfdalj4.gif) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/nv8cx_zps2rfdalj4.gif.html)
SPAAAAAAACE
Is this some kind of "portal to the world of Pokémon?" If so, why are You and the Partner already wearing Guild apparel? Or..... (*uber-speculation*) IS IT A PORTAL TO THE HUMAN WORLD? BLUERGHBLERUGH
What really happened:
Spoiler
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7inn79vOS1qgocy3o1_500.jpg)
Quote from: Bespinben on July 06, 2015, 04:16:28 PMPerfect Apples confirmed...
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/nv6ul_zps6v7ohoid.gif) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/nv6ul_zps6v7ohoid.gif.html)
All hail the return of the Grandmaster of All Things Bad!
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/allhailapple_zpst7ge9go4.gif) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/allhailapple_zpst7ge9go4.gif.html)
NO. NO, THIS IS BAD. If Wigglytuff is back there better be a boss battle against him so I can destroy him with Flare Blitz.
Quote from: Bespinben on July 06, 2015, 05:56:34 PMRewatching the costume-clad commercial again for the umpteenth time, I happened to notice a NEW scene from the game itself:
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/nv8cx_zps2rfdalj4.gif) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/nv8cx_zps2rfdalj4.gif.html)
SPAAAAAAACE
Is this some kind of "portal to the world of Pokémon?" If so, why are You and the Partner already wearing Guild apparel? Or..... (*uber-speculation*) IS IT A PORTAL TO THE HUMAN WORLD? BLUERGHBLERUGH
The scene reminds me of Ys III's Pre Final boss cutscene, where Adol (The Hero) rises to fight the ultimate foe. Maybe this plays before an important boss fight?
So I'm at Temporal Tower right now in PMD Explorers, having already played once through the game.
But
Spoiler
Grovyle sacrificing himself :'( :'( :'( :'( My god the feels
I'm also disappointed that you never fight Team Skull.. At least in the main game. I feel like it would've been fitting to fight them for the water float or something, Idk... I mean, Rescue Team had the fight with Team Meanies, and it fit perfectly well.
Oh, and I'm a Pikachu, and Thunderbolt hits everyone around you, and my partner is a Torchic with Overheat. This game is easy, also because I take way too much time to do missions XD (at Diamond rank right now at temporal tower).
The latest in PMD scholarship.
Parts of the west continent of Super Mystery Dungeon strongly resemble the world of PMD Gates to Infinity.
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/989/156/0da.jpg)
Quote from: Bespinben on July 09, 2015, 01:20:06 PMThe latest in PMD scholarship.
Parts of the west continent of Super Mystery Dungeon strongly resemble the world of PMD Gates to Infinity.
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/989/156/0da.jpg)
Ooooh this is getting better and better! Wonder if the Glacier Palace will make a comeback, but buried underwater due to it crashing into the sea...
Tomorrow is the stream guys. What do you think will happen during the PSMD segment? Mini poll of sorts:
A: Explain Treehouse Live events in Japanese (They didn't get a Japanese equivalent during E3 so info there is unknown)
B: Surprise EOT/EOD/EOS release on Japanese Wii U eShop after the stream (SUPER unlikely due to the VC game for Japan next week already confirmed as Mario Story)
C: Announcement of PMD on Japanese VC but coming "soon" (Sorta likely maybe? It's a no brainer that they would be excellent for Miiverse)
D: Announcement of Retro PMD 3DS themes (Inevitable, they did it for the main series. BUY THEM ALL)
E: Official confirmation of old areas returning
GUYS
GAMEPLAY TEASER
CHECK IT OUT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Pretty good gameplay, but that soundtrack sounds sooooo good for piano!
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on July 09, 2015, 07:53:12 PMGUYS
GAMEPLAY TEASER
CHECK IT OUT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)
plot
I never thought I'd actually get rick rolled in reality ever again. *slow claps* Congratulations.
New screenshot
Spoiler
(http://img.gamefaqs.net/screens/6/c/2/gfs_59306_2_5.jpg)
...Just kidding, this is the real image.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJTaDu_UcAAPAq3.jpg:small)
Seems to show that Farfetch'd is an important character + another look at the village. Please don't be another Chatot or else the joke image I put above will describe his character perfectly
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJjJ08xVAAAaad5.jpg)
For context, this is from one of their tweets talking about the stream. I don't know what's going on, either, other than the fact that the guy in the middle is the special guest who was playing for a bit
The Nico Nico page says that they're going to play the anime special for EoT/D at 11:30. There's nowhere saying anything about any time reserved for any potential SPMD announcements, so I guess it's just going to be a surprise.
Argh. I set up an account after messing around with the Wii U internet browser, only to see it's Flash only. I'm stuck in a friggin forest cabin for another week and a half so I'm very mad that I can't tune in due to my lack of a computer up here... There better be a youtube archive.
Nico Nico is pretty annoying to use. Even if you could watch it, if you don't have a premium account, you could be kicked out if too many people are watching, since there's a limited amount of viewers allowed to watch at once, and the video only lasts for 7 days... Ah, well.
So yeah. I wish for a Youtube video too.
(insert tanabata or jirachi joke)
The twitter feed says they were at Mt Bristle about an hour ago, and no mention of anything 3ds related.
Quote from: InsigTurtle on July 10, 2015, 07:37:36 AMNico Nico is pretty annoying to use. Even if you could watch it, if you don't have a premium account, you could be kicked out if too many people are watching, since there's a limited amount of viewers allowed to watch at once, and the video only lasts for 7 days... Ah, well.
So yeah. I wish for a Youtube video too.
(insert tanabata or jirachi joke)
The twitter feed says they were at Mt Bristle about an hour ago, and no mention of anything 3ds related.
Yikes, maybe it's best that I can't watch.
Regarding location, according to the PMD Reddit one hour ago they JUST met Dusknoir in EOT... Don't remember how close to the end it is, but I don't think it's anywhere close...
Chapter 10 out of 20 iirc.
Seems they had issues with Amp Plains for some reason and aren't too far ahead, and there's still no PSMD footage. Makes me wish they chose the better game to play through in 24 hours instead... (Rescue Team)
Yeah, who was the genius who decided to play the longest game in 24 hours?
The webpage says that they can't extend the time if they don't finish it. So I hope they've at least reserved some time for new stuff.
Quote from: InsigTurtle on July 10, 2015, 08:44:10 PMYeah, who was the genius who decided to play the longest game in 24 hours?
The webpage says that they can't extend the time if they don't finish it. So I hope they've at least reserved some time for new stuff.
Is explorers really the longest game? It didn't feel very long at all to me, I could've sworn Rescue team was longer (though that's probably just my nostalgia).
Rescue Team has far fewer dungeons between start and final boss (though the dungeons are, for the most part, longer), and less dialogue.
Not one bit of PSMD info. Pretty disappointing overall, and according to the twitter they only made it to "The Climax" before time ran out. I really hope they have new info sometime soon at least... Or even better an American release date.
Relax. Game Freak and Spike Chunsoft are much better at planning, marketing, and releasing games than you.
All rise for the PMD4 national anthem:
(Finally, I can now finish my Title Theme arrangement!)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xQe5dtDoxNs
Quote from: Bespinben on July 12, 2015, 11:21:59 AMAll rise for the PMD4 national anthem:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag335/Altissimo1/IMG_0901_zpsff4plhre.jpg)
(I, uh. Um. Yes.)
Cute! :D Time to listen to this all day!
Quote from: Bespinben on July 12, 2015, 11:21:59 AMAll rise for the PMD4 national anthem:
what I'm picturing
(http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/uploads/Symphonic_Evolutions_Art_1200px_300dpi.jpg)
Not even 3 days since the unveiling of the full Title Theme, and I've already been 1-up'd. WHAT IS THIS MADNESS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbMbDStXGeI
Quote from: Altissimo on July 12, 2015, 11:46:47 AMSpoiler
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag335/Altissimo1/IMG_0901_zpsff4plhre.jpg)
Best thing I've seen in months.
Imagine it's the composers going trolololol let's freak this guy out
Tons of new info, mainly things from treehouse live and TONS of screenshots. Here are some I found interesting
Spoiler
(http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/66.jpg)
End of a Job request
(http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/61.jpg)
Take a spin now you're in with the technoset you're going surfin on the internet
(http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/68.jpg)
Job mission cutscene.
(http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/92.jpg)
Strict like Chatot. Everybody level grind for the inevitable battle where you can get payback.
(http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/101.jpg)
Recruiting Legendary Pokemon reconfirmed.
(http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/uploads/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-17-656x328.jpg)
Official Artwork
(http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/common/images/thumb/game/pokemon/150715_03.jpg)
Artwork of summons
(http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/common/images/thumb/game/pokemon/150715_02.jpg)
Artwork of School characters
(http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/story/images/150715_01/img_01.jpg)
To give bespinben a headache
LOOK AT ALL DAT
News on how to recruit Pokemon.
http://mobile.siliconera.com/all/2015-07-15-pokmon-super-mystery-dungeon-shows-how-to-recruit-new-buddies
That is WAY better than just praying you'd get lucky enough to recruit them, holy shit.
I don't like it because now I have to wait to unlock them on the orb before I can recruit the mons I want in my team ._.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on July 17, 2015, 07:56:54 AMI don't like it because now I have to wait to unlock them on the orb before I can recruit the mons I want in my team ._.
Well, it was kind of like that in the older games, eh, since you had to wait til you could access a dungeon before you could recruit its Pokémon?
I admit I like the thrill of dungeon-crawling for recruits, but oh GOD is this better.
Quote from: Altissimo on July 17, 2015, 10:35:32 AMWell, it was kind of like that in the older games, eh, since you had to wait til you could access a dungeon before you could recruit its Pokémon?
I'm pretty sure you still have to unlock the dungeon where you can find the mon before recruiting it! I doubt it'll be like you can go recruit mons just like that without unlocking the dungeons, otherwise I think you could unlock any mon without advancing in the story? Anyway it's still frustrating because it might take forever until you can get the mon that you've really wanted in your team for a long time. Especially if the "all your Pokemon in your entire team earn the Exp" -thing from GtI is in the game, the mons you get later will be so underleveled that there's no reason to train them.
on another topic I'd love it if they made it so that you could access the Hidden Abilities to all of the mons somehow!!
I got Chimchar + Froakie
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/tumblr_ns7lpjus3L1r6wywso1_500_zpsulgoflpj.gif)
Totodile + Chimchar :D
Pikachu + Oshawott
Chespin and Charmander. I like :P
Maybe you guys were probably like "Oh cool a new SuperPMD-inspired 3DS cover" and moved on...
(http://www.nintendo-insider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-new-3ds-cover-plate.jpg?625101)
BUT I HAVE A REVELATION!
Take a REAL close look at the background of the 3DS cover? Notice a shape? Something almost like a TIME GEAR? So you can get a good look at it, I erased all the 'Mons and manually reconstructed the design:
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/SuperPMD%20relic_zpsttxvboic.png) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/SuperPMD%20relic_zpsttxvboic.png.html)
Whaddya think? Plot implications? or just conveniently shaped like a Bronzor?
(I do think there's some symbolism to the 6 circle-nodes on the design though... maybe we'll have something like "finding the 6 sages" sort of quest like OoT)
Quote from: Bespinben on August 01, 2015, 03:34:23 PMWhaddya think? Plot implications? or just conveniently shaped like a Bronzor?
(I do think there's some symbolism to the 6 circle-nodes on the design though... maybe we'll have something like "finding the 6 sages" sort of quest like OoT)
OH OH OH!
In Gates to Infinity, Hydreigon mentions there being OTHER Voices of Life, besides just himself. Perhaps to restore Petrified Pokémon back to normal, you will have to gather the energy from each of the (six?) Voices of Life....!? :o (Eek)
(and once you get ALL 6, epic final boss battle against Yvetal?!?)(Speculating is so fun)
Gosh darn it Ben at this rate you'll disappoint everyone when they play it
Cyndaquil and Mudkip. Prett cool.
That Ampharos pose tho. I wonder what role he'll (or she'll) play, since most of the characters on there were already introduced.
PMD2 Explorers confirmed for SuperPMD
On the Japanese Twitter page, there's a quote from the in-game Kecleon:
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/superPMD%20treasure%20town%20reference_zpszf7vg5rs.jpg) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/superPMD%20treasure%20town%20reference_zpszf7vg5rs.jpg.html)
This is what Google Translate spits out:
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/superPMD%20treasure%20town%20reference2_zpsohuhvtsk.jpg) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/superPMD%20treasure%20town%20reference2_zpsohuhvtsk.jpg.html)
In short, Kecleon is wondering if "Ruriri" and "Mariruri" are in good health.
"Ruriri" and "Mariruri" are the Japanese names for "Marill" and "Azumarill", so we KNOW that the Treasure Town mentioned in the quote isn't just ANY coincidentally-named "treasure town", but THE ONE AND ONLY Treasure Town. Interestingly, in PMD2, they two weren't that Evolved yet -- they were just Azurill and Marill.
THEREFORE, Super Mystery Dungeon takes place AFTER the events of PMD2.
HOLY SHIT IS THIS ACTUALLY A PMD2 SEQUEL YOOO
OH MY GOD IT BETTER FUKKEN BE
I'm writing a fanfic that ties the events of MD1 and MD2 together in a crazy convoluted way. When SMD was announced my first thought was "Oh shit what if I want to put this new one into the continuity?" (I haven't played GTI so that never factored into my plans) If it's a direct sequel this might be a bit easier than I thought!
Urgh. Not sure what to feel about this since Explorers was my least favorite. Hoping to see some Rescue Team and GTI love in this game soon!
I knew that Kecleon looked familiar.
So, those new CoroCoro scans.
I have to say, I'm more excited about the Ampharos having what I assume to be a large role (something that approximately translates as a 'team leader'. I really fucking love Ampharos, and his/her art has a bitchin' pose.
Oh, and that new Mega Evolution mechanic is cool, too.
They promise more stuff in the next issue. So....
Quote from: InsigTurtle on August 09, 2015, 11:42:17 PMSo, those new CoroCoro scans.
1st Scan
(http://www.serebii.net/corocoro9152.jpg)
2nd Scan
(http://www.serebii.net/corocoro9153.jpg)
Translation of scans (credit to Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/MysteryDungeon/comments/3gg3jb/pokemon_super_mystery_dungeon_corocoro_scans/)):
Spoiler
First Scan
There's Mega Evolution in Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon!?
In Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon, you can enjoy adventures countless times, and the battles are awesome as well! With Mega Evolution, the common sense of dungeon exploration has changed!!
Caption: Mega Evolving will raise your stats even further!
Evolution surpassing evolution!!
Conquer dungeons with Mega Evolution!!
Inside dungeons, once certain conditions have been met, your Pokemon "awakens"! Certain can "awaken", and Mega Evolve, powering them up, and changing their look, type, and ability!!
Caption: Charizard Mega Evolves into Mega Charizard X!!
Of course! In battle you're mega strong!!
With Mega Evolution, your stats go up, and you can attack multiple enemies at once! Even if you're surrounded by enemy Pokemon, it's ok.
Caption: Defeat several Pokemon at once!
Caption: With Mega Evolution, there's no enemy to fear!
Even mega destroy dungeon walls!
Mega Evolved Pokemon can even break dungeon walls.
Caption: A dead end...!? But with Mega Evolution, you make a way through.
Caption: Destroy walls, and open a new path! Enjoy exploration even more!
New items: Get even more powerful with the Lapis and Ringle!!
The Ringle is an item Pokemon can hold. The Lapis power you up, once set in the Ringle.
Find Lapis!!
Caption: Lapis can only be found in dungeons. They disappear once you exit the dungeon.
Caption: Using the "Power Up X" Lapis, the power of your moves goes up! Use it well to become stronger.
Defense Up
Caption: Lower the damage taken from moves. Equip multiples to stack its effect!
Many different effects!!!
Combo Protect
Caption: Useful for when you're hit multiple times in one turn. Lowers the overall damage.
Second Scan
Welcome to the Pokemon Investigation Team!!
In order to achieve their dreams, the protagonist and partner enter into the Pokemon Investigation Team! Go on a grand adventure across the world with your colorful teammates!!
If it's an adventure, then leave it us!!
Caption: Don't miss the varied personalities of the appearing Pokemon!
Ampharos: The Team Leader Even though she's the leader, she suffers from extremly poor sense of direction... Althrough she's an airhead, the team member trust her greatly. She's a reliably Pokmeon.
Buizel: Investigater In charge of underwater exploration. A reliable senpai who protects the main heroes.
Jirachi: Astronomer Although he's a genius, once he falls asleep, it's hard to wake him up. His sleeping posture is terrible as well.
Mawile: Archeologist An archeologist, but also a seasoned adventurer. Like Ampharos, she's also a deeply trusted.
Archen: Investigater In charge of sky exploration. He has a very helpful personality.
Bunnelby: Investigator In charge of underground exploration. His special skill is digging with his ears.
Swirlix: Waiter Is in charge of the food, but he's always sneaking food.
Dedenne: Messenger The Investigation Team's messenger. Sends messeges back and forth between team member using his electric waves.
(By the way, I'm not actually sure about why gender they all are. I'm just guessing Ampharos is female because they use the pronoun "watashi" in their speech, while Buizel and Archen use the masculine "ore", and Jirachi uses the boyish "boku")
MY COMMENTARY! You'll notice in the 2nd Scan a picture of the Expedition Society members in a meeting of some sort. I noticed the Bronzor-esque symbol I reconstructed from the 3DS cover plate reoccurs here (which I boxed in red)!
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/expeditionlogo_zpsoq3lhzil.jpg) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/expeditionlogo_zpsoq3lhzil.jpg.html)
3DS cover plate comparison
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/SuperPMD%20relic_zpsttxvboic.png) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/SuperPMD%20relic_zpsttxvboic.png.html)
Looking closely at the new image, I'm thinking the symbol actually bears more resemblance to a Poké-ball than anything else. I never did understand how Poké-balls were sometimes cameo-ed in PMD
(like in Blue/Red Rescue Team, where one of options Smeargle paints on your Team Base flag is a Poké-ball), so I'm hoping SuperPMD will give some closure on that
mystery.
hype too strong
More exciting stuff:
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/gamesystem/150812_04.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/story/150812_03.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/pokemon/150812_01.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/story/150812_02.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/story/150812_01.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/gamesystem/150812_03.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/gamesystem/150812_02.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/gamesystem/150812_01.html#
Not going to spoil anything here, but there's also the jukebox stuff and the continent stuff.
Quote from: InsigTurtle on August 12, 2015, 01:54:31 AMPlethora of news
More exciting stuff:
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/gamesystem/150812_04.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/story/150812_03.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/pokemon/150812_01.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/story/150812_02.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/story/150812_01.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/gamesystem/150812_03.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/gamesystem/150812_02.html#
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/gamesystem/150812_01.html#
Not going to spoil anything here, but there's also the jukebox stuff and the continent stuff.
I'm not sure if I'm crying tears of joy, or just the fact I'm up so late is making my eyes watery.
SOMEONE GET A TRANSLATOR ON THAT SKY JUKEBOX/MELEOTTA THING
ASAPOh, and seeing this scene revived brought back some great PMD2 feels:
(http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/141.jpg)
DID SOMEONE SAY JUKEBOX
AND THAT EATING SCENE
I'VE BEEN SO TERRIBLY BUSY WORKING THIS SUMMER I'VE FALLEN BEHIND ON CHECKING THE NEWS BUT I'M FREAKING OUT AGAIN
I'm so glad Meloetta is the art for that jukebox--that was one of my favorite characters from Gates to Infinity and I was sad it wasn't used much. I loved how Meloetta went back between aria and pirouette form and called them "princess" and "prince," that was really charming and cute. It's one of my fav Pokémon
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/240643-pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-two-small-videos-details-and-scr
A
Super-Sized file size of 1.8 GB.... I am not disappointed.
Quote from: Bespinben on October 15, 2012, 09:20:16 PMComparison
The fact that PMD 3DS is a game of 1GB size means that it has quite a bit of data compared to most 3DS titles, more so even than Mario Kart 7. The point? They put a significant amount of work into the game, and perhaps the world itself is fairly large and expansive. Maybe we'll even get to go more places than just randomly generated dungeons and the hub town.
Metal Gear Solid 3D - 3.24
Resident Evil: Revelations - 3.17
Monster Hunter 3G - 1.77
The Amazing Spider-Man - 1.62
Kid Icarus: Uprising - 1.61
Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure - 1.53
Doctor Lautrec and the Forgotten Knights - 1.43
Samurai Warriors: Chronicles - 1.43
Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D - 0.67
Sonic Generations - 0.67
Mario Kart 7 - 0.66
Star Fox 64 3D - 0.63
Heroes of Ruin - 0.50
The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time 3D - 0.47
Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars - 0.47
Cave Story 3D - 0.47
Nintendogs + Cats - 0.46
Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games - 0.46
Asphalt 3D - 0.44
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 0.37
Crush 3D - 0.35
Pokemon Rumble Blast - 0.33
Super Mario 3D Land - 0.31
Bit Trip Saga - 0.31
Mario Tennis Open - 0.29
Super Monkey Ball 3D - 0.22
Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars - 0.22
Rayman Origins - 0.21
Demon Training - 0.20
Rayman 3D - 0.19
Steel Diver - 0.18
Pilotwings Resort - 0.10
Shifting World - 0.05
Oh, and the Official Super PMD website got a pretty spiffy redesign.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/bpxj/dungeon/index.html
My hype cannot be contained.
On the redesigned page:
I love that music. I call dibs.
EDIT: So I decided to make a super quick preemptive arrangement (https://www.dropbox.com/s/j0xuss8w6tphs2v/Untitled.pdf?dl=0). Because shit man I love that small little excerpt.
bigger than a Monster Hunter game? not bad o.O
I'm guessing most of that is the 3D models for the Pokémon, but that's still huge.
ORAS was 1.8GB as well if you need a straight comparison
Opinion-wise about the game, so far it's looking like the game will be just as easy as GtI sigh
some of the broken mechanics seem to be back, in addition of new ones like reusable sleep wands .-.
Hope they'd know how to balance out the game properly this time, like removing stupid mechanics starting w/ Agility
idk what you're talking about Agility isn't broken at all
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 18, 2015, 01:08:45 PMORAS was 1.8GB as well if you need a straight comparison
Opinion-wise about the game, so far it's looking like the game will be just as easy as GtI sigh
some of the broken mechanics seem to be back, in addition of new ones like reusable sleep wands .-.
Hope they'd know how to balance out the game properly this time, like removing stupid mechanics starting w/ Agility
GTI wasn't all that easy if you played the post game or DLC hard mode dungeons. The enemy learns the team skills as well and it makes items like petrify orbs useless in the later part of the game because of it. I wouldn't be surprised if the new additions both help AND hurt your team in a way
We finally got a new music leak IN FULL:
(maybe Serene Village?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIt_OUm34vQ
Dibs dibs dibs Dibs dibs dibs Dibs dibs dibs mine mine mine beetle no beetle steals punchbuggy
Might I request some research assistance however? I couldn't find this track ANYWHERE besides this random nobody's YT account. Not on Niconico, pokemonCoJp Twitter.... Nothing.
I'm not too sure. Maybe just wait for a while in case this is fan made.
It sounds nice though :)
The uploader of the music responded to my inquiry:
QuoteThe song is from one 3DS Theme based in this game, the starters one :)
I had totally forgot how back in July (http://serebii.net/news/2015/04-July-2015.shtml), the 2nd 3DS Theme (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/bpxj/_img/privilege/subbox03_pic01.png) was revealed as a Japanese pre-order bonus. I then remembered that NEW MUSIC would have to accompany the download that 3DS Theme, a fact that was specifically advertised in the following text bubble from the newly redesigned SuperPMD website (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/bpxj/privilege/index.html):
(http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/bpxj/_img/privilege/subbox03_copy.png)
(Notice the acronym "BGM" [i.e. BackGround Music]?)
So, the music upload is legit.
Furthermore, just listening to the music itself, you can immediately tell it's 100% authentic. The melody at the beginning uses the same motif from the Title Theme, and several PMD GtI instruments are used (most notably that wonderfully ethereal music box towards the end). No soundfont rip exists for Gates to Infinity yet
(and probably never will, since it's not MIDI-based), so the only conclusion to make is that this is undoubtedly an actual OST from the game.
Have you ever noticed how similar the soundfonts of 3DS games are from one to the next?
Man, this song is wonderful.
Game releases 11/20 stateside. My body is ready
Shit, that's the same day as Star Fox Zero
MY BODY IS SO READY
Quote from: K-NiGhT on August 24, 2015, 10:06:25 AMShit, that's the same day as Star Fox Zero
Eh just grab 3D After Burner II on 3DS, it's the same game. I'm really excited for PSMD yet I'm also not happy that cruddy Pokemon clone gets an earlier release date on the 6th of that month. :(
Star Fox is an awesome game
I really like playing multiplayer Assault
Waaaah the Japanese channel keeps uploading stuff and I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO SCRUTINIZE ALL OF IT GRAAAAH
i have to say i like the pan flute sample they use in the music
Quote from: Latios212 on August 25, 2015, 08:09:34 PMWaaaah the Japanese channel keeps uploading stuff and I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO SCRUTINIZE ALL OF IT GRAAAAH
MORE MUSIC? WHERE?
Quote from: Nebbles on August 25, 2015, 09:04:49 PMMORE MUSIC? WHERE?
It's in the background of the new TV ads/trailers. I isolated the BGM from the voiceovers so you can listen to it directly:
(Dungeon Theme 1)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wgqlnqpz7q0jnkx/SuperPMD%20-%20Unknown%20Dungeon%20Theme%201.wav?dl=0
(Dungeon Theme 2)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2bzyfwspk9a0ori/SuperPMD%20-%20Unknown%20Dungeon%20Theme%202.wav?dl=0
Quote from: Latios212 on August 25, 2015, 08:09:34 PMWaaaah the Japanese channel keeps uploading stuff and I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO SCRUTINIZE ALL OF IT GRAAAAH
I can't handle much more of these PMD Teletubbies ads. Kawaii overload.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/03a8dbb74f5370e5ff8d9a9c4854f20a/tumblr_ntlcolotKT1r6ornbo4_500.gif)
Those links weren't working for me :C
Ah, I was still uploading at the time of the post. They should be operational now!
woop woop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYc4Tf7WPVk
Ooooh boy, monster houses!
As you guys might know, the game became available for preload on the Japanese Nintendo 3DS E-Shop yesterday.
There's nothing quite so tantalizing as seeing THIS on your Home Menu and not being able to open it!
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/SuperPMD%20Preload_zps82vapgpi.gif) (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Bespinben/media/SuperPMD%20Preload_zps82vapgpi.gif.html)
The inevitable FAMITSU review scores just released for SuperPMD.
36/40(or 9-9-9-9)Sources
http://gematsu.com/2015/09/famitsu-review-scores-issue-1397
http://nintendoeverything.com/famitsu-review-scores-9815/
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/242188-famitsu-this-week-s-review-scores-9-8-15
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/3k37ho/famitsu_gives_pokemon_super_mystery_dungeon_a/
http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/24215957/famitsu
I think it's worth mentioning that the dogmatic "best" of the series, Explorers of Sky, got a 35/40 (lower), while the fandom's spit-upon step-child, Gates to Infinity, got a 38/40 (higher).
Famitsu's pretty unreliable recently.
I think they gave Devil's Third a 33/40.
While I do love reading reviews, in this game's case there's no real point. You know what you're getting into with a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon title hahaha
Honestly I'm rather nervous for this game since it got a lower score than GTI. I Loved that game a lot, but after being incredibly disappointed with Pokemon X and Y along with Pokemon ORAS which got similar scores I'm kinda concerned PSMD is just going to be meant for people with too much Explorers Nostalgia, with boring characters and a story that doesn't make sense with most of the attention going to solely making explorers fans shut up (Similar to the Genwunner treatment in X and Y with the Kanto nods everywhere). I'd love to know WHY they gave the game a score of four 9s to be more specific, because now I'm more nervous it'll be a disappointment due to all this waiting in suspense
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 08, 2015, 11:59:48 AMWhile I do love reading reviews, in this game's case there's no real point. You know what you're getting into with a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon title hahaha
This so much. Honestly, when I read game reviews, it's not me deciding my opinion, but trying to understand the (sometimes questionable) logic of the reviewers. I'm fascinated by pathological social behaviors.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on September 08, 2015, 01:24:47 PMHonestly I'm rather nervous for this game since it got a lower score than GTI. I Loved that game a lot, but after being incredibly disappointed with Pokemon X and Y along with Pokemon ORAS which got similar scores I'm kinda concerned PSMD is just going to be meant for people with too much Explorers Nostalgia, with boring characters and a story that doesn't make sense. I'd love to know WHY they gave the game a score of four 9s to be more specific
I think at least one reason why a game (like GtI) would get such polarized review scores (IGN's 5.5/10 versus Famitsu's 38/40) is related to cultural preferences. Dungeon crawlers in general aren't very popular in the West, but they're all the rage in Japan. Thematic elements could also play a factor. I couldn't help but think that the whole concepts behind things like the Voice of Life or the Bittercold stem from some sort of archetype in Asian folklore (perhaps Yin-Yang?).
Quote from: Bespinben on September 08, 2015, 01:33:46 PMI think at least one reason why a game (like GtI) would get such polarized review scores (IGN's 5.5/10 versus Famitsu's 38/40) is related to cultural preferences. Dungeon crawlers in general aren't very popular in the West, but they're all the rage in Japan. Thematic elements could also play a factor. I couldn't help but think that the whole concepts behind things like the Voice of Life or the Bittercold stem from some sort of archetype in Asian folklore (perhaps Yin-Yang?).
I never thought about it that way. I did find the "voice of life" extremely odd and corny, but maybe it isn't in japan.
Bespinben got beat again to this, proving that theoretically even a fat articuno can beat him at getting sheet music out first, since someone made sheet music for one of the dungeon themes from the trailers. I really like the music for the most part, as it seems like a theme of determination
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on September 08, 2015, 07:44:37 PM*link*
Bespinben got beat again to this, proving that theoretically even a fat articuno can beat him at getting sheet music out first, since someone made sheet music for one of the dungeon themes from the trailers. I really like the music for the most part, as it seems like a theme of determination
Oh, I'm even more behind the curve than just that. If you follow that guy's stuff on Niconico, he's already finished the Top Menu Theme too as of 3 days ago.
http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm27108459
Looking at the Japanese SuperPMD site, it looks like there's going to be ANOTHER NicoNico livestream to show off the game
one day prior to release:
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2015/09/150911_gm01.html
http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv233983457
I know at this point, most of us don't want any more spoilers than we've already gotten, but if I can just get a peek at the Staff Credits to finally learn who are the composers, I'll be content until the US release.
Finding this bit of info out while undercover at my school, it seems that PSMD will have over 120 dungeons, around double the amount of GTI and Explorers and three times the amount as Rescue Team! Makes me confident about the post game although I dearly hope they aren't rehashes from Explorers to satisfy the nostalgic fans. Even the rescue team dungeons I don't want to see over done, as I prefer new content. Getting excited as it the game is out in only two days in Japan!
Sadly the odds of a special episode for the game at this point are the same odds as an Articuno themed movie being made
(in other news, part one of my PMD retrospective is almost done, and should be out before the JPN release. It almost killed my computer's hard drive due to it being four hours of footage getting edited into one hour of a retrospective but I'm determined to finish it. One hour, reviews for three separate Rescue Team related media, along with history on the games (and my own past due to how important the game was to me personally). Get ready if you can handle my strange voice.
Explorers will be the next episode but it will only cover Time and Darkness and the DVD so it will be MUCH shorter. No manga and not much history in this one, that is saved for part III which covers Sky and Squad.)
why so much hate for explorers
Friendly friend reminder to tag any possible spoilers about the game now that it's about to be out
Seriously explorers are the best games
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on September 14, 2015, 11:24:49 AMwhy so much hate for explorers
Honestly while I may have mentioned it briefly before I can't really say the entire reason why. Eternal Memories will cover that but even then I don't think I can quite explain what made it hurt my feelings so much. My biggest guess is being hurt at the many "WHY THE HECK DID YOU NOT DO ANYTHING" situations in the game where the characters act really, really stupid. Especially Officer Magnezone, I hate that guy more than most people hate Chatot. Gameplay is fine, music is fine but the story really drives me nuts for some reason, despite me being in love with it when I was younger. I'm guessing Ys V's story about stopping the collapse of time by going to an ancient hidden land to restore the balance of time before bad guys use it to corrupt the present made me realize that Explorers had quite a few faults due to the characters making that story not as well written.
Oh also PSMD LEAKED ALERT ALERT EVERYONE HIDE IN YOUR SPOILER SHELTER.
Spoiler
LP part 1 With english translator
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on September 14, 2015, 01:39:50 PMOh also PSMD LEAKED ALERT ALERT EVERYONE HIDE IN YOUR SPOILER SHELTER.
Spoiler
LP part 1 With english translator
..........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA1mbZ_MMh8
(If desired, I'm willing to strip out the voiceovers to create tracks of the music.)
I WANNA HEAR THE MUSIC SO BAD OH GOD
THE GAME LITERALLY CAME OUT 15 MINUTES AGO
Oh, and some obligatory relevant self-promotion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUaAszRmBbQ
iT'S hEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (well, really over there)
Quote from: Bespinben on September 16, 2015, 08:16:52 AMTHE GAME LITERALLY CAME OUT 15 MINUTES AGO
Oh, and some obligatory relevant self-promotion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUaAszRmBbQ
YOU BEAT ME BESPINBEN
NOOOOOOO Why couldn't I finish in time
Still, my tribute shouldn't take too much longer. Excited to see it launch in Japan.
Quote from: Bespinben on September 16, 2015, 08:16:52 AMTHE GAME LITERALLY CAME OUT 15 MINUTES AGO
Oh, and some obligatory relevant self-promotion:
Holy frick I really like that song, this is making me way too excited. Is it released in America yet or only japan?
Only Japan. America gets it in November.
November 20th in North America and early 2016 for the PAL region. When early 2016 means I don't know. Someone told me it was March 25th over there but I doubt it as it would be a stupid delay in that case.
If you so much as breathe a word about the game outside of spoiler tags, there will be hell
Why does Tapatalk automatically display everything contained in spoiler tags ;-; time to not check this topic anymore on my phone
Quote from: Latios212 on September 17, 2015, 09:36:43 AMWhy does Tapatalk automatically display everything contained in spoiler tags ;-; time to not check this topic anymore on my phone
It does? Crud... I decided to erase them just to be safe despite tagging them all. My sincere apologies, They really should not let that happen with that app to be perfectly honest.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 17, 2015, 09:34:10 AMIf you so much as breathe a word about the game outside of spoiler tags, there will be hell
this so much omfg
THE SOUNDTRACK IS HEREhttps://mega.nz/#!RY8kQQbT!kLT_qjsXwPMUPlFuRMfqC9QZGbcNpymF3EiPecK2QZ4
The files are in an encrypted ZIP. Password is
TraiverLet the games..... Begin!
BOSS BATTLE ROCK REMIX IS EPIC AND NEEDS TO BE IN SMASH BROS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2Kxfnny9Xs
Looks like someone's gonna do an arranging marathon. ;)
Noooo I'm at school and now I can't wait to see if the OST lives up to my expectations. For those who have listened could you at least say if I should expect the battle themes to be as good as they were in Golden Sun? (I played that recently and can't get the epic battle themes out of my head)
Spoiler
Man, that's quite a different music style compared to the other ones in the series, but I daresay I currently like it the most. Either super ethereal or super dramatic.
Glad to see that the remasters/remixes didn't disappoint. I was concerned about that. Love the amp plains, mt. steel. Nice return of many things I liked. I really do miss the old style, though.
English translation of the full Famitsu review:
http://nintendoeverything.com/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-gets-first-review-in-famitsu/
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h475/Bespinben/a743da76db329d7a9598ab3349bdb9e9_zpsz8rrt9vv.jpg)
I've been listening to the OST, and... this is just so damn GOOD.
Music related chat log
Spoiler
[2015-09-21, 1:02:56 AM] InsigTurtle: oh, i did notice an influx of bagpipes
[2015-09-21, 1:03:07 AM] InsigTurtle: like in that one dungeon theme they always had in the commercials
[2015-09-21, 1:03:12 AM] Bespinben: Bagpipes were subtle in GtI
[2015-09-21, 1:03:23 AM] Bespinben: But very prominent here
[2015-09-21, 1:03:38 AM] Bespinben: Hole hills used the bagpipes
[2015-09-21, 1:03:53 AM] InsigTurtle: (maybe it's like in that one monty python sketch where people start turning into scotsmen)
If this goes on, the sequel to this game might go full-on Scottish!
The Japanese website (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/pokemon/150925_01.html) put out some new artwork for the game today...... oh my gosh.....
"♪ Do you see what I see... ♪"
(http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/pokemon/images/150925_01/img_01.jpg)
HYPERVENTILATING RIGHT NOW
HRRRRRRNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
WHY TWO MORE MONTHS
Quote from: Bespinben on September 25, 2015, 10:48:06 AMSpoiler
The Japanese website (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/pokemon/150925_01.html) put out some new artwork for the game today...... oh my gosh.....
"♪ Do you see what I see... ♪"
(http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/pokemon/images/150925_01/img_01.jpg)
You really have to wonder if the Gardevoir of Team Charm REALLY IS Gengar's Gardevoir, seeing as they are positioned RIGHT NEXT TO EACHOTHER.
Probably coincidence. Why put two of the same Pokemon on there?
Quote from: K-NiGhT on September 25, 2015, 12:17:17 PMProbably coincidence. Why put two of the same Pokemon on there?
but
but but but but but...they are even staring right at each other!
(dat line of sight tho)
Quote from: Bespinben on September 25, 2015, 12:26:13 PMbut but but but but but
...they are even staring right at each other! (dat line of sight tho)
fuck this means i have to find a way to work it into my fanfic. theERE IS NO WAY TO WORK IT INTO MY FANFIC FUCK
SuperPMD sales figures just came in! It's #1 on the charts!
152,000 since last week's launch :O :O :O
http://gematsu.com/2015/09/media-create-sales-91415-92015
Interesting figures compared to previous titles:
(http://abload.de/img/pokemonmysterydungeon7xspq.png)
Quote from: Bespinben on September 25, 2015, 08:49:32 PMSuperPMD sales figures just came in! It's #1 on the charts!
152,000 since last week's launch :O :O :O
http://gematsu.com/2015/09/media-create-sales-91415-92015
Interesting figures compared to previous titles:
(http://abload.de/img/pokemonmysterydungeon7xspq.png)
Well that's promising at least
Interesting that Time/Darkness had the greatest first-week reception. I wonder why those were the biggest and everything else wasn't.
Quote from: Altissimo on September 26, 2015, 01:55:56 PMInteresting that Time/Darkness had the greatest first-week reception. I wonder why those were the biggest and everything else wasn't.
Notice how Time/Darkness are grouped together while Blue/Red Rescue Team aren't. When you factor in those two together, and then realize that the other ones are standalone, it makes more sense.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 26, 2015, 02:08:07 PMNotice how Time/Darkness are grouped together while Blue/Red Rescue Team aren't. When you factor in those two together, and then realize that the other ones are standalone, it makes more sense.
it's still more than double though, just not as weird
I got both Red and Blue on release but only Darkness on release lol
wait has the max team size been changed from 4 to 3?
used to be that you could only take 3 pokemon into a dungeon back in rescue team but i'm pretty sure you can add more through recruiting. Also if the games have taught us anything it's that most teams only operate in like 2's or 3's lol
Darkrai likes to
Spoiler
take selfies in this game
(http://image-cdn.gamnesia.com/25508/super_mystery_dungeon_meeting_darkrai__large.jpg)
Quote from: Bespinben on September 27, 2015, 12:51:10 AMSpoiler
Darkrai likes to take selfies in this game
(http://image-cdn.gamnesia.com/25508/super_mystery_dungeon_meeting_darkrai__large.jpg)
pls spoiler tag ;_;
yeah jeez shame on you bespinben
hey knight wanna play something that we actually HAVE like animal crossing
...awww but he's just so fab... I had to!
Gomenasai ;_;If you were actually serious (hard to tell on internet), that picture has been in several pre-release trailers (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/gamesystem/150715_01.html) since JulyQuote from: NocturneOfShadow on September 27, 2015, 12:58:53 AMwanna play something that we actually HAVE like animal crossing
But... the fun is in the MYSTERY of
not having it!
Speculation is all the rage brah
Quote from: K-NiGhT on September 26, 2015, 06:31:26 PMused to be that you could only take 3 pokemon into a dungeon back in rescue team but i'm pretty sure you can add more through recruiting. Also if the games have taught us anything it's that most teams only operate in like 2's or 3's lol
really? I'm pretty certain that you were able to bring 4 members as long as they were small enough
maan I'm trying to design the perfect team plan now that every mon is included and possible to recruit in this game without spamming op legendaries, and it's hard to do it w/ just three mons
in Blue/Red you could only take 3 per dungeon, in T/D/S you could take 4, idk about GtI
Quote from: Altissimo on September 27, 2015, 08:39:40 AMin Blue/Red you could only take 3 per dungeon, in T/D/S you could take 4, idk about GtI
sourcecheck your shit because I just had to google one vid that clearly shows you can bring 4 in Red/Blue
Quote from: bulbapediaThe size of a party is limited to four in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, compared to six in the main RPGs; furthermore, players are only able to directly control one Pokémon: their own character (or, later in the game, any other befriended Pokémon). The player's teammates are essentially autonomous, with player control being limited to general strategy such as avoiding Pokémon battles or not moving and staying in one place.
Yeah I actually definitely remember four slots in all games
I think if you wanted to recruit new members, you needed a free party slot depending on the size of the Pokemon.
Then tell me why when I just tried to take a team of 4 into a dungeon that it told me I couldn't
becuz ur a nerd
@k-night
Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 27, 2015, 04:39:16 AMreally? I'm pretty certain that you were able to bring 4 members as long as they were small enough
you can HAVE 4 in a dungeon but you cannot BRING four into a dungeon. A potential fourth brought in from the start would be part of an escort mission.
Source: I have replayed Blue 100 times and recruited everything in the game do not question my encyclopedic knowledge of it
because nintendo logic
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/1237d20aa1f090cec9f234e8417bedc1/tumblr_npnuhl71tR1tvcal8o1_500.png)
(don't get me wrong, I actually quite like the name now)
I was wondering about that
Wii U
New 3DS
New Super Mario Bros
Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon
get a new name rater pls
I made a countdown timer for the U.S. release date
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20151120T00&p0=%3A&msg=Pok%C3%A9mon+Super+Mystery+Dungeon+--+Release+Date&font=slab&csz=1&swk=1
#grovylehype
(spoil at your own risk)
http://imgur.com/a/WOvcp
The soundtrack of SuperPMD has a rather unique palette. The following song uses a balaban, a double-reeded Middle Eastern instrument. Other ethnic instruments have been part of previous PMD OSTs (most notably the bagpipe), but this is a very interesting development indeed. The file name of the song is "BGM_EVE_SCENERY", so I can't help but imagine it's the new "Bubbles Shining Over the Sea".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gG61IcFluE
LESS THAN ONE MONTH GET HYPE
IT'S ALMOST HERE >-<
I cannot get tired of this PSMD song though (MASSIVE SPOILER WARNING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR OR SEE THIS YET)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME1NgI3qKfQ [it's the final dungeon]
It's so epic I CAN'T STOP BEING EXCITED
HYPE IS REALLLLL
So close to release wow. This wasn't really on my radar, haha it kind of snuck up on me.
someone buy it for me im not allowed to buy games n shizz
so um...here's the entire OST. All
8 and a half hours of itI'm serious. This is the entire OST. This is your last warning.
I can't believe I'm even tempting myself with this.
Ha! That's barely the tip of the iceberg. The problem is everyone is using Traiver's rip of the OST (which lacks a substantial amount of tracks) instead of FlygonBreloom's:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MysteryDungeon/comments/3lhzc4/ultrahq_ost_rip/
(figured you would have seen this already Marty :U )
I have never had a greater test of my patience.
Less than three weeks, Alti.
Are pre-orders a thing in America yet?
Yep. I pre-ordered Super PMD months ago.
The Japanese website for PSMD updated recently. Just some details on the Guild/Expedition Society and whatnot. Really liked this new art for Mewtwo though!
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/
(http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/cho_dungeon/game/pokemon/images/151015_01/poke_01.png)
My mom forgot to get me a birthday present so I asked her for 40 bucks to pre-download PSMD with.
Jeeeeeebus it took up a lot of my 3DS' storage
Awh lucky
The first dedicated English TV ad for Super Mystery Dungeon released a few hours ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDfu-MshPuE
I was kinda hoping for something more zany (like the Japanese ad from months back), but I guess playing it safe is okay. Not a big fan of the voice-over though -- sounds too mechanical.
10 days, 10 more days man.
The fuck is that pronunciation of Pokémon tho
(/keeps forgetting it's officially "Po-kay-mon")
Quote from: Altissimo on November 10, 2015, 05:23:42 PM(/keeps forgetting it's officially "Po-kay-mon")
What? I thought it was POKETEU MONSEUTAS
SORRY UR RIGHT. how could i forget
At least it isn't "Polka-mon" like they used to call it in the first few episodes of the anime dub. That really drove my crazy.
Overall I think the commercial is good, better than the other NA ads, but not as good as some of the ads from other regions for the older PMD games.
I can't believe we're finally so close to the release...
(http://i.imgur.com/kzQwqPg.png)
god
I'M SO PUMPED FOR THIS SHIT
I have the thing predownloaded so i can play at midnight but the question is... do i want to....... since i'll be performing in a piano recital at noon Friday and therefore cannot play all night but once i start it may be hard to stop
Quote from: Altissimo on November 17, 2015, 03:44:21 PMI'M SO PUMPED FOR THIS SHIT
I have the thing predownloaded so i can play at midnight but the question is... do i want to....... since i'll be performing in a piano recital at noon Friday and therefore cannot play all night but once i start it may be hard to stop
As frivolous as this makes predownloading the game, I'd recommend waiting until after your recital. Unless the recital is no big deal, in which case play for an hour or two Thursday night. :)
Quote from: Altissimo on November 17, 2015, 03:44:21 PMI'M SO PUMPED FOR THIS SHIT
I have the thing predownloaded so i can play at midnight but the question is... do i want to....... since i'll be performing in a piano recital at noon Friday and therefore cannot play all night but once i start it may be hard to stop
Step 1: Go to bed at 4 PM Thursday
Step 2: Wake up shortly before launch
Step 3: Pull an epic all-nighter
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit
LOUD EXCITED YELLING
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 17, 2015, 03:46:40 PMAs frivolous as this makes predownloading the game, I'd recommend waiting until after your recital. Unless the recital is no big deal, in which case play for an hour or two Thursday night. :)
My reason for predownloading wasn't so much so that I could play it at midnight, as that I wanted the theme that came with predownloading lmao i'm such a nerd.
Recital I am anxious about because even though I'm only playing a couple things (it's not a Just Me recital; it's a student recital, and I'm performing solo piano as well as piano and trumpet with the jazz band) I reaaaaaally want the piece to go well and I want to ... not fuck up the jazz band too. So yeah I'll probably wait it out.
Best of luck with your recital! Super PMD will be your reward :D
I'm absolutely staying up to play this all night.
Quote from: Nebbles on November 17, 2015, 04:37:12 PMBest of luck with your recital! Super PMD will be your reward :D
After chemistry lab. And homework. And the symphony that night. :p But yeah I am pumped maaaan
So I've never played a pmd game. Should I? Which one if I should?
screw yall smh
@dude honestly either red/blue rescue team or explorers of time/darkness/sky are some of the most fun and best mon games there are. spent quite a bit of hours on them as a kid. you could also start with this one, although i hear it's pretty difficult. but the series is great.
Quote from: Dude on November 19, 2015, 08:55:11 AMSo I've never played a pmd game. Should I? Which one if I should?
They're good games. If you dig the main Pokémon games then absolutely play one. But the storylines are almost entirely about friendship and the effects of being positive and working together, which is really heartwarming and uplifting but also a little cornball. So if that doesn't sound like your thing, definitely steer clear lol.
Quote from: Dude on November 19, 2015, 08:55:11 AMSo I've never played a pmd game. Should I? Which one if I should?
Explorers of Sky. Not even Time/Darkness, just Sky (which has extra, significant, content). Not only is it a fair bit easier than the first (whose postgame has a ridiculous difficulty) but the plot is far better, in my opinion, and overall has a lot better worldbuilding than the first game(s).
The first game I love for nostalgia value, but without that it's kinda mediocre. Enjoyable especially if you like absurd difficulty, but not polished as well as Sky.
You can't go wrong with any of them, tbh, since they're all essentially the same game. The DS ones have very low quality old-timely graphics (GTI and I'm guessing PSMD are absolutely beautiful) so I'd probably recommend getting this one on Friday or GTI if you can find it cheaper. When/if you decide to play Explorers, skip Time and Darkness like Altissimo said and just play Sky.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 19, 2015, 09:10:27 AMYou can't go wrong with any of them, tbh, since they're all essentially the same game. The DS ones have very low quality old-timely graphics (GTI and I'm guessing PSMD are absolutely beautiful) so I'd probably recommend getting this one on Friday or GTI if you can find it cheaper. When/if you decide to play Explorers, skip Time and Darkness like Altissimo said and just play Sky.
Eh, I wouldn't call the graphics a significant reason to skip. The pixel art in Time/Darkness/Sky (Especially the extra scenes in Sky) is quite lovely. Red/Blue are a little iffier because they're the same game but for GBA and DS, and the result is that the DS version looks rather... not-DS lol. But if graphics are a reason not to play, nobody would ever play Red/Blue/Yellow! :V
Well, I'm just saying, after playing X and Y for me it's pretty difficult to go back to anything older. I tried replaying Sky a couple months ago and couldn't get very far because the pixel stuff was so blurry unless I played at original resolution, which is really small lol.
btw i want to remind everyone to PLEASE spoiler your shit
Quote from: Altissimo on November 19, 2015, 11:46:28 AMbtw i want to remind everyone to PLEASE spoiler your shit
This omg even if it's the very beginning of the game, spoiler tags pls
today is taking quite a while to pass.
oh does it come out at midnight tonight
I was thinking about getting it since it seems decent
I'll just steal psmd or something since I can't buy it
SO EXCITED
BUT PLEASE, TAG EVERY SPOILER, BE CONSIDERATE!
seriously 14000 blocks
that's like as much as is already on my 3DS
Hey wouldja look what day it is
Oh, look! It's still the 19th where I am! What a glorious day!
I keep getting chikorita this is crap
HAPPY SUPER PMD DAY
Bespinben will be gone for about a week.
not even a spoiler, really
I love how the Jukebox exists right from the very beginning and just unlocks tracks by itself, including some remixed ones from the older games :P
Does anyone have a list of which nature corresponds to which starter Pokémon? I'm just curious.
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Anyone else feeling really weak? I keep getting one or two shot and I'm in honey meadow
On my way back from my Japanese class my grandmother picked up the game. I got to hold it before having to return to school...
...that box art is the prettiest I've ever seen, hands down. Beat Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys in that category. The back is really nice to look at, describes the game just fine and overall everything looks great. Even the game card looks amazing!
I do miss the days of a strategy guide, and the days of manuals to read before playing (you only get a slip of paper telling you how to use the digital manual and a sheet with the theme shop code), but I'm still impressed regardless. It looks very pretty and as I type this in my school's study hall I'm filled with anxiety as I await going home to play the fifth chapter of the PMD series... The final chapter, it's likely this one, so I hope it's worth the wait, and dare I say good enough to give to my future children and have them give to their future children and so on.
seriously this is stupid. I can't get anywhere
I really love this so far. Really, really love it.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 19, 2015, 09:47:12 PMI keep getting chikorita this is crap
You do know you can just pick whoever you want if the quiz gives you a Pokémon you don't like?
I got picked as Snivy twice and Turtwig once (I had three separate personality analyses but two different Pokémon wtf this quiz is probably super complicated). Finally I got fed up with the quiz and just manually picked Treecko with Froakie as my partner.
I've played the first hour and a half and I love it. I don't remember the writing being quite this funny in the other games (I'm belly laughing a lot at the partner character).
Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 20, 2015, 07:01:41 PMYou do know you can just pick whoever you want if the quiz gives you a Pokémon you don't like?
yeah, but usually when I redo the quiz they give me a diff poke\
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 20, 2015, 08:06:19 PMI got picked as Snivy twice and Turtwig once (I had three separate personality analyses but two different Pokémon wtf this quiz is probably super complicated). Finally I got fed up with the quiz and just manually picked Treecko with Froakie as my partner.
I've played the first hour and a half and I love it. I don't remember the writing being quite this funny in the other games (I'm belly laughing a lot at the partner character).
Are you dying in the dungeons at all?
I haven't died yet through the first boss battle, but the difficulty level is definitely there. Treecko has Dragon Breath as a move which is really helpful.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 20, 2015, 08:27:51 PMI haven't died yet through the first boss battle, but the difficulty level is definitely there. Treecko has Dragon Breath as a move which is really helpful.
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I died twice in both dungeons and I've died like 15 times in honey meadow
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The bosses are easier than the dungeon what
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Ampharos. I'm dying
I picked the game up at 12 PM on Friday.
But I'm sitting through a MUN session until 2:30 AM.
So I'm incredibly jealous of y'all.
Downloaded the free Home Menu Theme! Haven't actually installed it though. I like the Ace Attorney ones too much.
if you're wondering where the feels are they're in chapter 10
Chapter 6
TBH when the partner asked me to be his friend and gave me the scarves, I almost started tearing up. The whole "schoolchildren" thing is really hitting hard too. Great job at making me remember what being a kid was like :')
THE MUSIC IS SO GOOD
CHAPTERS 14 AND 16 ARE INCREDIBLE
I love that the PSMD home menu theme came with the physical release too. It's a really basic theme but it still looks so nice.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 21, 2015, 06:51:37 PMI love that the PSMD home menu theme came with the physical release too. It's a really basic theme but it still looks so nice.
Such a good theme :D
Do you think if I order this on Amazon it'll get here before thanksgiving :// I'm so jealous rn
Most likely.
Only about 3 hours in so far. I am enjoying it immensely.
My only problem was the inability to pick gender at the start. This wouldn't be a problem if I weren't playing as Pikachu who of course has to default to "male" because pikachu. I like the cut tail! but no I guess I'm just an intersex pikachu lmao
Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 21, 2015, 04:10:42 PMCHAPTERS 14 AND 16 ARE INCREDIBLE
DANGIT I'M ON CHAPTER 13
WHAT HAPPENS
OK I KNOW I SAID CHAPTERS 14 AND 16 ARE INCREDIBLE, BUT TBH IT'S LITERALLY THE ENTIRE SECOND HALF OF THE GAME THIS STORY OMFG
I agree, the story is phenomenal. I almost don't want to waste time dungeon crawling daily
EDIT: TURNS OUT I WAS ON CHAPTER 14 AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I LOVED THAT IT'S SO MYSTERIOUS
How are levels? Do you have to grind to keep up?
All this talk about the game is making me so hyped! I won't be able to get it for another week though :/
From what I heard around on GameFAQs, there aren't many opportunities to grind (which is another reason why the story is shorter than let's say PMD2 because there is less goofing off time)
yeah there is like zero grinding time. It's super easy to get underleveled. It makes the last part of the game extremely difficult.
Speaking of which, I just hit Chapter 22 and man this story does not let up one bit! It's such a crazy ride from the second half on. For those of you who are still pre-Chapter 10, hold out! It's about to get better real soon!
Chapter 16:
I
FREAKING
KNEW IT
I JUST BEAT THE GAME AND I WAS NOT PREPARED
THE TEARS ARE SO REAL
Oh, god...
I forgot about the release date and didn't pre-order it, so now it's coming on Tuesday. I'll get to play it over Thanksgiving break. :)
For some reason I still haven't ever played Red/Blue and GTI. Maybe I should. I know most of the story of Red/Blue and a good portion of GTI, but maybe I'll try them regardless.
Less grinding time? As in, less forced grinding time, or less grinding time completely? Because in Explorers, after the first few story missions, you could grind as long as you wanted before moving on with the story (the only exception that comes to mind is Spacial Rift, but you could store everything in the Kangaskhan Rock and keep grinding and dying).
Both.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 21, 2015, 10:37:19 PMyeah there is like zero grinding time. It's super easy to get underleveled. It makes the last part of the game extremely difficult.
Speaking of which, I just hit Chapter 22 and man this story does not let up one bit! It's such a crazy ride from the second half on. For those of you who are still pre-Chapter 10, hold out! It's about to get better real soon!
Tbh I haven't had time to play much because I'm with family all the time this week, but even now when I'm still only in Chapter 6, I'm absolutely in love with the story. This will probably end up being my favorite Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.
It's really, really solid. The story is great.
This game... I'm crying tears of joy. Even after just a few chapters, this game is surpassing my expectations in every way possible...
I'm moving to a second playthrough because I want to experience this story again RIGHT NOW.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 22, 2015, 01:01:30 PMI'm moving to a second playthrough because I want to experience this story again RIGHT NOW.
Imma play through a second time too once I'm done. This is GREAT.
Also the reason there's less grinding time is because you can only do so many missions until the story starts back up again, and once the story starts you can't go anywhere else but to the story location. I think I did maybe 20 expeditions in all. Probably less.
Guess who just translated Travier's ripped soundtrack into each of the PSMD songs via PSMD jukebox and then put it in order and is uploading it to a dropbox folder to share?
THIS CRAZY GUY
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dw6g5vlvq4kssk3/AAAMIyxWtUMCvdfyieD4xn1fa?dl=0
Your welcome!
I documented my sleep-deprived and drunk escapades through chapters one and two on a skype chat.
And that's all I've done.
I beat it and it was beautiful
This game is bad for my physical mental and emotional health
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tAIFfyhww4Y/maxresdefault.jpg)
Quote from: IvyandQuil on November 22, 2015, 01:56:14 PMhttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/dw6g5vlvq4kssk3/AAAMIyxWtUMCvdfyieD4xn1fa?dl=0
Your welcome!
Sweet! Thanks! :3
I WAS THINKING THERE WAS NO WAY THE ENDING COULD GET BETTER THAN EXPLORERS BUT THEN IT DID
I can't wait to sink my teeth into more of the epilogue this week.
here, have another one
Spoiler
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69imMXCA4f2yNZT)
YESTERDAY, YOU SAID TOMORROW
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 23, 2015, 02:18:41 AMhere, have another one
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(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69imMXCA4f2yNZT)
YESTERDAY, YOU SAID TOMORROW
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(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/shia-labeouf-video-still%20%281%29.png)
Aaaaah I got it! I'm a little late, but it's in my hands now! And I told myself I'd wait until Winter Break to start it, but y'all are making it so hard for me to do that. :))
I will not cave. I will not cave.
How far away is your break?
does anybody want to be my rescue buddy
keep coming after me and saving my butt in dungeons pls
If I can hold out until the 11th, I'll be set!
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 23, 2015, 05:16:19 PMdoes anybody want to be my rescue buddy
keep coming after me and saving my butt in dungeons pls
I always wanted a rescue buddy. I'd totally keep coming after you and saving your butt in dungeons if I hadn't just bravely claimed I wouldn't play until break.
You can rescue yourself tho
Quote from: Nebbles on November 23, 2015, 07:13:02 PMYou can rescue yourself tho
none of my pokemon are powerful enough to do that
as an aside, anyone know a good way to boost HP? I can't figure out why my team's HP is so low
I think there's a seed that can boost HP? Or an item in general, I think...
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69imVFZoWi1hdf4)
now's your chance! I got stuck in a monster house :/
Damnit I was just about to go to bed.
Maybe tomorrow... Or tonight if I can't sleep. We'll see.
Anyone can do it, right?
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 23, 2015, 10:29:42 PM(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69imVFZoWi1hdf4)
now's your chance! I got stuck in a monster house :/
future reference, you should use the QR code instead of the letter/number code. waaaaaay easier.
so I got to platinum rank and restarted my adventure, cause the story is WAAAAAAY more fun than postgame
What's everyone's teams? I think I already posted that I'm Treecko with Froakie as a partner.
I'm Piplup, with Torchic as my partner. Our team name is the Birb Squad.
That's adorable. My team name is the Lizard Kings
mkip n pika in da howse
we be da mana dorks
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 24, 2015, 11:01:49 AMWhat's everyone's teams?
"A friendly friend to all!" ~Team AMICI~
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/PSMD%20business%20card.png)
but then you'd be "The Team AMICI" :/
I'd hate to say this, but "Amici" sort of reminds me of "Avīci", the lowest level of the Naraka, or Buddhist hell.
Just saying.
"Amici" is Italian for "friends". I felt it harmonized well with it worked well with the Partner's goals and the idea behind the Connection Orb.
Quote from: Bespinben on November 24, 2015, 03:56:31 PM"Amici" is Italian for "friends". I felt it harmonized well with it worked well with the Partner's goals and the idea behind the Connection Orb.
Speaking of which, I felt like it was a neat idea and they pulled it off as well as they possibly could have, but it was still a little bit bulky to use imo. I also thought it was strange that you connect to people once you kill them, but maybe that's just me. Hey, it works better than the old method.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 24, 2015, 04:31:33 PMI also thought it was strange that you connect to people once you kill them, but maybe that's just me. Hey, it works better than the old method.
But that
is the old method! You recruit people after killing them in all the other games. ???
You just needed Friend Areas in Rescue, and luck in Explorers.
I adore the Connection Orb. Best improvement to the entire series so far in the game. (Definitely a good idea to streamline the recruitment process--I might even try for all 720 in the post-game.)
Agreed. I'm gonna try and get 'em all.
My first team was Riolu and Froakie, but in my new playthrough I'm Totodile with Chespin.
For some reason, my favorite partner Pokémon are always the Water-type ones (except in Sky, in which I always choose Meowth as the partner). Imo, the partner's personality in Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon seems very corresponding to a more upbeat Pokémon like Froakie or Chimchar than Pokémon like Turtwig or Bulbasaur.
I couldn't wait to have it delivered so I went and picked it up today lol. I unintentionally didn't learn anything about this game prerelease, so I'm going in blind this time! Team Pikachu and Mudkip is back baby ^^
Chapter 8 spoilers
I'm almost through Chapter 10 now, but I just wanted to say that walking around Serene Village talking to NPCs is the best part of the daily routine besides checking the Connection Orb. Like how the villagers will talk about sudden random kind things being done for them, but no one being around, after Litwick and Solosis have been defeated. Or how Croagunk and Corphish will talk about Explorers stuff, or Emolga asks you for help rescuing Dunsparce. I feel like PSMD does a better job than any of the others of making you feel immersed in the world of Pokémon, too--games like Rescue Team and Gates to Infinity felt very isolated in their environments, but the sheer variety of Pokémon on display here gives me a very involved feeling.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 25, 2015, 09:11:53 AMChapter 8 spoilers
I'm almost through Chapter 10 now, but I just wanted to say that walking around Serene Village talking to NPCs is the best part of the daily routine besides checking the Connection Orb. Like how the villagers will talk about sudden random kind things being done for them, but no one being around, after Litwick and Solosis have been defeated. Or how Croagunk and Corphish will talk about Explorers stuff, or Emolga asks you for help rescuing Dunsparce. I feel like PSMD does a better job than any of the others of making you feel immersed in the world of Pokémon, too--games like Rescue Team and Gates to Infinity felt very isolated in their environments, but the sheer variety of Pokémon on display here gives me a very involved feeling.
I definitely feel that. It's a lot of these small little things that have made me very happy about this game. :P
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 25, 2015, 09:11:53 AMChapter 8 spoilers
I'm almost through Chapter 10 now, but I just wanted to say that walking around Serene Village talking to NPCs is the best part of the daily routine besides checking the Connection Orb. Like how the villagers will talk about sudden random kind things being done for them, but no one being around, after Litwick and Solosis have been defeated. Or how Croagunk and Corphish will talk about Explorers stuff, or Emolga asks you for help rescuing Dunsparce. I feel like PSMD does a better job than any of the others of making you feel immersed in the world of Pokémon, too--games like Rescue Team and Gates to Infinity felt very isolated in their environments, but the sheer variety of Pokémon on display here gives me a very involved feeling.
just wait until you get further in- going back to serene village or especially
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nuzleaf's house
gives you the oddest feeling and it's amazing how they pull it off
Well I beat the story, and am still working hard on 100%ing the game. Regardless I feel I know plenty to be able to give this a proper, full review, so here's (http://www.seafoamgaming.com/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-3ds-review-t376.html) my written review on PSMD for those who are interested. No story spoilers, but I do talk about the gameplay mechanics a lot, just as a warning. Was definitely worth the wait, and honestly I don't think any game in 2016 may top this for me (if any game at all, to be truthful. We'll see what the future holds and if PMDVI ever gets made.)
I got PSMD yesterday and started it today with a boatload of HYPE! Team is Riolu (Superfan) and Snivy (Flora), and I've just finished Chapter 3. I actually love the story so far, even though some parts are a little bit cliché in the world of PMD, and it's definitely a unique change from Red/Blue and Explorers (though I can't say much for GTI since I never played it; maybe I should).
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I'm glad I picked Snivy for a partner, since I've always imagined her as mischievous and adventurous, which is especially so in this story. Maybe it's the small bit of Poképark 2 that I played at a friend's house a long time ago.
As of now, the music hasn't particularly stood out to me... but I'm hoping that will change. I've heard great things about the soundtrack. In general, this game is looking up right now, and I'm hoping it won't disappoint me. Maybe it'll be better than Explorers.
...Oh, who am I kidding? Nothing can top Explorers.
Chapter 11 Spoilers
I finally got through that damn Sheer Mountain Range (I reached 12F and died, so I had to go rescue myself, then finally finished the last two floors) and it's convinced me that Drifloon is maybe the worst Pokémon in existence. Sorry Nebbles, but Unburden lets it deliver two Minimize back to back before I even approach it (for those of you counting, that's 4x evasiveness up), not to mention two damaging attacks at a seemingly random pace. It made life hell, especially since I'm a Grass-type Pokémon. (So many Flying-type Pokémon in there...)
THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORDS SLOW AND YOU KNOW IT
TELL THAT TO THE DRIFLOON IN THE FIRST ROOM OF 1F WHO USED TWO OF MY REVIVER SEEDS BECAUSE OF THAT DAMN UNBURDEN
GIT GUD THEN
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 25, 2015, 07:26:56 PMChapter 11 Spoilers
I finally got through that damn Sheer Mountain Range (I reached 12F and died, so I had to go rescue myself, then finally finished the last two floors) and it's convinced me that Drifloon is maybe the worst Pokémon in existence. Sorry Nebbles, but Unburden lets it deliver two Minimize back to back before I even approach it (for those of you counting, that's 4x evasiveness up), not to mention two damaging attacks at a seemingly random pace. It made life hell, especially since I'm a Grass-type Pokémon. (So many Flying-type Pokémon in there...)
Unburden really is a stupid ability. Just wait till you get to the part where a camerupt enters the room and uses earth power, ohko'ing you out of nowhere from 20 tiles away. TBH the dungeons get nearly impossible without emeras, so make sure to pick them up. Some of the best ones are Guard Boost, Barrage, Lullaby/Dizzying Stare and Power Boost X/Y. Also, hax works really well in this game. I beat 75%% of the bosses by spamming mud slap even though I was underleveled. Flinch hax works pretty well too if you have one of the fang moves
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 25, 2015, 06:54:06 PM...Oh, who am I kidding? Nothing can top Explorers.
I was thinking the same thing and your opinion is actually wrong, trust me
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on November 25, 2015, 06:05:14 PMWell I beat the story, and am still working hard on 100%ing the game. Regardless I feel I know plenty to be able to give this a proper, full review, so here's (http://www.seafoamgaming.com/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-3ds-review-t376.html) my written review on PSMD for those who are interested. No story spoilers, but I do talk about the gameplay mechanics a lot, just as a warning. Was definitely worth the wait, and honestly I don't think any game in 2016 may top this for me (if any game at all, to be truthful. We'll see what the future holds and if PMDVI ever gets made.)
your review was pretty good, I feel like it explained the game well, there were a couple typos if you care about that, and the one thing I saw that stuck out was when you said every time you died it was your own fault. There ARE cheap shots in this game(such as unburden, room-wide moves, a particular move called bulldoze, and hax) and it is easy to get underleveled especially if you're bad at the particular game (like me). I didn't really catch up until about chapter 16
I've made a vow not to use the Emeras and Looplets tbh because they seem really cheap
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 25, 2015, 06:54:06 PM...Oh, who am I kidding? Nothing can top Explorers.
I seriously hate this line of thinking, especially considering you've only got through 3 of like 23 chapters. The whole community is immediately comparing this game to Explorers and basing whether or not they purchase the game on said comparisons.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 25, 2015, 08:55:29 PMI've made a vow not to use the Emeras and Looplets tbh because they seem really cheap
They're not that cheap tbh. I think it's an amazing mechanic.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 25, 2015, 08:55:29 PMI've made a vow not to use the Emeras and Looplets tbh because they seem really cheap
ahahahahaha
Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 25, 2015, 08:57:08 PMThey're not that cheap tbh. I think it's an amazing mechanic.
he'll use em eventually he'll come across the dungeon that he can't beat
although you could always bring 99 stayaway wands with you those things are amazing
I love the Emeras, Dizzying Payback ftw
Just got the game and I'm already starting to get emotional about it for some reason. I'm just really glad that it lived up to my expectations :3
Also, about the emeras, am I the only one who kept 'using' them instead of setting for a while? <_< *feels pretty derpy*
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 25, 2015, 08:40:56 PMI was thinking the same thing and your opinion is actually wrong, trust me
If that turns out to be the case (as what I've heard a lot of people say or at least agree to PSMD and Explorers being equal to each other), then that's awesome!
Chapter 12 spoilers
I am laughing so hard I can't believe the first eleven chapters were setup for a new version of Wigglytuff's Guild. We've got a nice cast of characters so far. I just finished the throwback Jirachi battle at the beginning of Chapter 12 (I was laughing even as Jirachi KO'd me--isn't this the third time Jirachi's been fought in the exact same way?) and while I won't have time to continue until tomorrow, I can still speculate. My theory from the beginning, that I hope is wrong, is that Nuzleaf and Carracosta are somehow bad guys. I really have no idea how the Beheeyem tie in to all of this though, and now it's the Ampharos / Mawile / Dedenne trio who's striking me as suspicious. Who knows. Either way, I'm having a good time, and I exchanged gold bars for a couple Gold Looplets since everyone here is telling me I'll need them lmao. Maybe I'll try to work out the system.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 26, 2015, 09:31:39 AMChapter 12 spoilers
I am laughing so hard I can't believe the first eleven chapters were setup for a new version of Wigglytuff's Guild. We've got a nice cast of characters so far. I just finished the throwback Jirachi battle at the beginning of Chapter 12 (I was laughing even as Jirachi KO'd me--isn't this the third time Jirachi's been fought in the exact same way?) and while I won't have time to continue until tomorrow, I can still speculate. My theory from the beginning, that I hope is wrong, is that Nuzleaf and Carracosta are somehow bad guys. I really have no idea how the Beheeyem tie in to all of this though, and now it's the Ampharos / Mawile / Dedenne trio who's striking me as suspicious. Who knows. Either way, I'm having a good time, and I exchanged gold bars for a couple Gold Looplets since everyone here is telling me I'll need them lmao. Maybe I'll try to work out the system.
Chapter 12
I seriously love everyone in the Society. Don't worry though, the game really picks up here!
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 25, 2015, 08:40:56 PMyour review was pretty good, I feel like it explained the game well, there were a couple typos if you care about that, and the one thing I saw that stuck out was when you said every time you died it was your own fault. There ARE cheap shots in this game(such as unburden, room-wide moves, a particular move called bulldoze, and hax) and it is easy to get underleveled especially if you're bad at the particular game (like me). I didn't really catch up until about chapter 16
I actually would like to know the typos if possible, as fixing them is a big priority for me (I use spelling and grammar checkers but of course they aren't perfect). Glad you enjoyed the review! As for the cheap difficulty in some spots, I do agree room wide moves are a pain, but for me personally Quick Guard managed to protect me against those moves, along with carefully planning out the use of items to beat up those difficult Pokemon before they can use them. I actually never had an issue with Unburden personally, but even if I did that's what the Truant Wand is for thankfully (it erases the ability). It's still super tough, but compared to other Roguelikes I've played it's nowhere near as frustrating or cheap IMO.
I hate those Drifloons.
I hate those Helioptiles.
...They're more balanced than the Nidoqueens in World Abyss, though...
OH AND THEY REMIXED HEARTWARMING OMG I'M DYING FROM NOSTALGIA UNNNGH
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 26, 2015, 09:31:39 AMChapter 12 spoilers
I am laughing so hard I can't believe the first eleven chapters were setup for a new version of Wigglytuff's Guild. We've got a nice cast of characters so far. I just finished the throwback Jirachi battle at the beginning of Chapter 12 (I was laughing even as Jirachi KO'd me--isn't this the third time Jirachi's been fought in the exact same way?) and while I won't have time to continue until tomorrow, I can still speculate. My theory from the beginning, that I hope is wrong, is that Nuzleaf and Carracosta are somehow bad guys. I really have no idea how the Beheeyem tie in to all of this though, and now it's the Ampharos / Mawile / Dedenne trio who's striking me as suspicious. Who knows. Either way, I'm having a good time, and I exchanged gold bars for a couple Gold Looplets since everyone here is telling me I'll need them lmao. Maybe I'll try to work out the system.
Wow you're thinking exactly the same way I am. I will tell you though:
Spoiler
Ampharos and Mawile have something seekrit going on. Won't say if it's good or bad.
Ampharos is by far my favorite character though.
Also, the game makes SO MUCH MORE SENSE when you play it the second time through. Characters' dialogues and actions match up perfectly with what you learn later in the game. It's SOOO PERFECT
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on November 26, 2015, 09:36:29 AMI actually never had an issue with Unburden personally, but even if I did that's what the Truant Wand is for thankfully (it erases the ability).
...Oh, wait.
tiem 2 rek sum drifloons
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on November 26, 2015, 09:36:29 AMI actually would like to know the typos if possible, as fixing them is a big priority for me (I use spelling and grammar checkers but of course they aren't perfect). Glad you enjoyed the review! As for the cheap difficulty in some spots, I do agree room wide moves are a pain, but for me personally Quick Guard managed to protect me against those moves, along with carefully planning out the use of items to beat up those difficult Pokemon before they can use them. I actually never had an issue with Unburden personally, but even if I did that's what the Truant Wand is for thankfully (it erases the ability). It's still super tough, but compared to other Roguelikes I've played it's nowhere near as frustrating or cheap IMO.
Alright here goes:
QuoteIf you want to hear the whole story of that original playthrough, (and to see the future episodes in the series when they come)
Not 100% about this one, but I believe the comma should go after the parentheses in this case.
QuoteIs it worth preordering if you are in the PAL regions? (Which gets the game on the 19th of February)
same deal here
QuoteThe Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series is known for it's detailed and captivating stories
should be "its", not "it's".
QuoteHowever, this game still has a lot of new assets added in as well, most notably the rest of the 720 Pokemon who were either absent or didn't exist when Gates to Infinity came out, some minor changes to the menus along with the nice variety of locales and cutscenes to look at during the gameplay.
I think you should have an "and" before "some minor changes" because atm it's sounding like a run-on. You've got it set up as a list rn. You could also say, "some minor changes..." "and a nice variety.."
Quotethis world looks gorgeous, and is a sight to behold especially during some of the longer cutscenes!
could use a comma or hyphen before especially
Quote(noisycroak Studios, to be exact!)
is noisycroak supposed to be capitalized?
I think that's about it. Keep in mind I'm not an english major or anything so your grammar in some cases could be correct and I'm just reading it wrong.
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 26, 2015, 10:54:22 AM...Oh, wait.
tiem 2 rek sum drifloons
if you want OP strats go into a dungeon with 99 stayaway wands. You're welcome.
@Noc -- what's in the spoiler tag? I'm not sure if it's safe for me to open it because it's not labeled
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 26, 2015, 11:34:38 AM@Noc -- what's in the spoiler tag? I'm not sure if it's safe for me to open it because it's not labeled
it's not really a spoiler, just additional information that won't reveal anything but probably drive you crazy
also another carracosta meme:
(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab124/ekimjar/WVW69img1iUGVwyoPV_zpsxotmr9hg.jpg)
OH STOP IT YOU
best carracosta face tbh
Quote from: Nebbles on November 26, 2015, 11:41:28 AMbest carracosta face tbh
Not better than that Sunkern face tho
So in my second playthrough I actually had enough money to buy all the lapras passes as soon as they were available o.O
Is hoopa, like, even a pokemon or what is he cause I don't get why he exists or what his purpose is
Hoopa is actually a real Pokemon.
Am I the only one who's getting a lot of Mario & Luigi RPG and Professor Layton vibes from this game? The former especially in the menu, and the latter especially
Chapter 8
when you go through Ancient Barrow, trying to figure out some deep, creepy ghost mystery, and you have this majestic but spooky music playing.
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 27, 2015, 05:42:56 AMAm I the only one who's getting a lot of Mario & Luigi RPG and Professor Layton vibes from this game? The former especially in the menu, and the latter especially
Chapter 8
when you go through Ancient Barrow, trying to figure out some deep, creepy ghost mystery, and you have this majestic but spooky music playing.
Chapter 8 (minor spoilers at most)
I'm reminded a lot of Mario & Luigi RPG simply in how much this game makes me laugh -- though I think the writing and gameplay style overall is much stronger in that other series. And yes, the Ancient Barrow music is very Laytonesque. :) some of the chapter plotlines, including Chapter 8 / 9, remind me of the smaller mysteries that the Layton games have you solve throughout (such as the mini-mysteries in Chapter 4 of Azran Legacy, Black Raven in Last Specter, or Tom in Diabolical Box).
Chapter 14
I had to take a break when I hit Chapter 14, since I've been in the car for hours and my 3DS is going to die soon (curse the New Nintendo 3DS battery). Very fun atmosphere so far, but there's something that's absolutely blowing me away: for the first time in any Pokémon game that I can ever remember, I'm getting anxious for the point when the story is over and I can enter sandbox mode. I've certainly never felt a drive for the post-game of a Pokémon game, especially not a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game. But the day-to-day missions and the deal with completing the Connection Orb and so forth is just so much fun. I'm definitely going to go for all 720 in the post-game. In the meantime I'm listening through the Jukebox in the meantime through headphones until my 3DS really does die. Such a lovely soundtrack. I can't believe that I agree with Spike Chunsoft's boasts of this game being the "ultimate Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game"--while I thought the title was stupid when I heard it, it's honestly very fitting. Well done, Spike Chunsoft. I can't wait to play the rest of the game.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 27, 2015, 08:23:31 AMChapter 14
I had to take a break when I hit Chapter 14, since I've been in the car for hours and my 3DS is going to die soon (curse the New Nintendo 3DS battery). Very fun atmosphere so far, but there's something that's absolutely blowing me away: for the first time in any Pokémon game that I can ever remember, I'm getting anxious for the point when the story is over and I can enter sandbox mode. I've certainly never felt a drive for the post-game of a Pokémon game, especially not a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game. But the day-to-day missions and the deal with completing the Connection Orb and so forth is just so much fun. I'm definitely going to go for all 720 in the post-game. In the meantime I'm listening through the Jukebox in the meantime through headphones until my 3DS really does die. Such a lovely soundtrack. I can't believe that I agree with Spike Chunsoft's boasts of this game being the "ultimate Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game"--while I thought the title was stupid when I heard it, it's honestly very fitting. Well done, Spike Chunsoft. I can't wait to play the rest of the game.
isn't the story so gripping though? Especially when
14
you find latias and latios? That's got to be my favorite part of the entire story
I've just gotten to the part where Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon becomes Pokémon Sp00py Mystery Dungeon
;)
There are so many things taken practically straight out of Explorers.
Can't tell if they're making references or are just too stupid to think of anything else.
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 27, 2015, 04:17:38 PMThere are so many things taken practically straight out of Explorers.
Can't tell if they're making references or are just too stupid to think of anything else.
Gates to Infinity -- Tries to be unique and gets outcast as "too different from the originals"
Super Mystery Dungeon -- Tries to callback to traditional themes/motifs and gets called "unoriginal"
Logic plz? ???(It's ironic really, considering that GtI itself was a spiritual successor of PMD1 in themes/motifs, but few realize this)
You can't please anyone.
Personally I don't think the Explorers callbacks are signs of unoriginality (and i'll fight all who claim different)
Quote from: Bespinben on November 27, 2015, 06:00:50 PMGates to Infinity -- Tries to be unique and gets outcast as "too different from the originals"
Super Mystery Dungeon -- Tries to callback to traditional themes/motifs and gets called "unoriginal"
Logic plz? ???
(It's ironic really, considering that GtI itself was a spiritual successor of PMD1 in themes/motifs, but few realize this)
Well, I never played GTI, but specifically I'm referring to the story.
Quote from: Altissimo on November 27, 2015, 06:19:31 PMYou can't please anyone.
Personally I don't think the Explorers callbacks are signs of unoriginality (and i'll fight all who claim different)
I share this sentiment.
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 27, 2015, 06:39:03 PMWell, I never played GTI, but specifically I'm referring to the story.
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 22, 2015, 10:15:16 AMI still haven't ever played Red/Blue and GTI.
..and that's where I have difficulty weighing your heavy-handed opinions with any credibility. PSMD is a stand-alone game in that you don't have to know the others to enjoy the adventure (though knowing such does enhance it). However, to make a valid criticism of PSMD's story, plot, themes, and motifs
(as you have attempted), one MUST know the history and development of those things in the context of the Mystery Dungeon series
as a whole, not just in comparison to the singular microcosmic pinpoint that is PMD2 Explorers.
Quote from: Bespinben on November 27, 2015, 07:34:22 PM..and that's where I have difficulty weighing your heavy-handed opinions with any credibility. PSMD is a stand-alone game in that you don't have to know the others to enjoy the adventure (though knowing such does enhance it). However, to make a valid criticism of PSMD's story, plot, themes, and motifs (as you have attempted), one MUST know the history and development of those things in the context of the Mystery Dungeon series as a whole, not just in comparison to the singular microcosmic pinpoint that is PMD2 Explorers.
how does gates tie in, now im curious
i havent played gates lmao
Why did everyone skip Gates omg
Quote from: Bespinben on November 27, 2015, 07:34:22 PM..and that's where I have difficulty weighing your heavy-handed opinions with any credibility. PSMD is a stand-alone game in that you don't have to know the others to enjoy the adventure (though knowing such does enhance it). However, to make a valid criticism of PSMD's story, plot, themes, and motifs (as you have attempted), one MUST know the history and development of those things in the context of the Mystery Dungeon series as a whole, not just in comparison to the singular microcosmic pinpoint that is PMD2 Explorers.
I have watched LPs of Rescue Team, and I wasn't referring to the motifs--I was referring to the story.
Spoiler
Notably, the illusionary legendary battle and the fact that the Expedition Society is extremely similar to the Guild--Ampharos and Wigglytuff are practically the same character.
chapter 14 spoilers
I think this is chapter 14, might be 13 but I'm being safe
I was SO pissed when the goddamn scarves evolved me without my permission. I was really on the verge of tears and probably would have cried if it didn't turn me back. Thank Christ
it's so important I stay a baby the whole game, I'm not sure why but it really is
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 27, 2015, 07:46:20 PMWhy did everyone skip Gates omg
I couldnt use my pikachu/squirtle team. Also I was really really angry about the forced male characters
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 27, 2015, 04:17:38 PMThere are so many things taken practically straight out of Explorers.
Can't tell if they're making references or are just too stupid to think of anything else.
As someone who's only played explorers of time and PSMD I can say that I have no clue what you're talking about.
As an addendum you have nothing BACKING your claim. The Expedition Society IS similar to the guild, but since I've only played the two, I assumed it was natural for a pokemon mystery dungeon game to have a place that EXPLORES MYSTERY DUNGEONS. If the other 2 games don't have one that's their fault. The only things I've seen from explorers is casual remarks referencing it-certainly not plot themes. Wigglytuff and Ampharos? Nah. Wigglytuff I feel genuinely knew what he was doing and just acted that way to put people off guard. Ampharos is genuinely scatterbrained.
Ampharos is still my favorite character and my favorite scene is still when you see latias and latios- is this what you were referring to Insig?
Quote from: Bubbles on November 27, 2015, 07:55:37 PMchapter 14 spoilers
I think this is chapter 14, might be 13 but I'm being safe
I was SO pissed when the goddamn scarves evolved me without my permission. I was really on the verge of tears and probably would have cried if it didn't turn me back. Thank Christ
it's so important I stay a baby the whole game, I'm not sure why but it really is
Seriously? I was like HECK YEAH
Although it did make that particular battle pathetically easy.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 27, 2015, 08:33:30 PMAlthough it did make that particular battle pathetically easy.
I was winning before it happened so I honestly didn't need it lol. Just glad it was a hype thing and not permenant
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 27, 2015, 07:49:33 PMI have watched LPs of Rescue Team, and I wasn't referring to the motifs--I was referring to the story.
Spoiler
Notably, the illusionary legendary battle and the fact that the Expedition Society is extremely similar to the Guild--Ampharos and Wigglytuff are practically the same character.
Spoiler
This is actually pretty wrong and you should really pay more attention to Ampharos' character.
The Illuminati is quite possibly the best name for the team.
It works so well.
I'm dying on floor 1 of this unbelievable dungeon every time
help
update: sacrificed my partner and made it to floor 3 #progress
Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 27, 2015, 10:08:08 PMSpoiler
This is actually pretty wrong and you should really pay more attention to Ampharos' character.
Spoiler
Well, at that point I had just joined the Expedition Society. After playing more I do see that I was wrong. :[
Chapter 16
Wtf why is Revelation Mountain so hard
Holy shit Riolu and Snivy keep getting one-shot
Too many Flying-types for me
I lost Snivy, Archen, Nuzleaf, and all my Tiny Reviver Seeds before F6 on my fifth try and died on the square next to the stairs on F13 .-.
Screw this I'mma rescue myself with three Electric-types
*minding your own business in the middle of a dungeon floor*
"Drifblim used Ominous Wind!"
"Your entire team nearly fainted!"
"Drifblim's Attack rose! Drifblim's Defense rose! Drifblim's Special Attack rose! Drifblim's Special Defense rose! Drifblim's Speed rose!"
"The Unburden ability delivers another attack!"
"Your entire team got pounded into dust!"
"Drifblim's Attack rose! ..."
In all seriousness though there's so much hax in the dungeons but if you can manage to outhax them the bosses are easier to make up for it
I recommend Stayaway wands
I haven't been playing any psmd in a few days because i got my cousin into ace attorney and the result is that she has been nonstop playing my 3DS
Quote from: Altissimo on November 28, 2015, 12:17:21 PMI haven't been playing any psmd in a few days because i got my cousin into ace attorney and the result is that she has been nonstop playing my 3DS
The world never has too many Ace Attorney fans.
Or Undertale fans.
Or PMD fans.
Also, I just found a really weird glitch in
Minor spoilers for Chapter 18-ish
Reverse Mountain
although I doubt it's specific to that dungeon. I took some videos, and I'll upload it to show you guys.
EDIT: Okay, if anyone's at all interested, check here (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/62nq5nzv1yskkw4/AADFrh46gOKRpId5PWp8Q0fba?dl=0&s=sl) to see the glitch. The first video is sideways, by the way. I just took them with my iPhone, which I happened to have on hand next to me.
I have no clue as to why this happened. It started on F2, presumably after an encounter with a Sawk, and proceeded to persist for the rest of dungeon.
I NOTICED THAT TOO
I just ignored it tho as I don't think it did anything...
I'm stuck in this awkward position where I want to continue my adventure and listen to the jukebox so I just end up flipping between the two while listening to the menu theme
Epilogue
Wtf
How did I not cry at that ending
I've cried every single time I've played through Explorers
Except this is so much sadder
"It's not you who has to leave... It's me."
By this point I can't at all imagine anyone other than a Snivy named Flora taking the place of the partner
I do wish they brought up the plot point of the possibility of you returning to the human world earlier (as they did in Explorers, where you knew that you were going to disappear before you saved the world), which would give a more profound emotional impact when the big plot twist happened with your partner being Mew and having to disappear. But maybe that's just my nostalgia speaking.
Also,
"Heh hEH heH!"
oh no it's temmie
Quote from: mastersuperfan on November 29, 2015, 05:23:14 AMEpilogue
Wtf
How did I not cry at that ending
I've cried every single time I've played through Explorers
Except this is so much sadder
"It's not you who has to leave... It's me."
By this point I can't at all imagine anyone other than a Snivy named Flora taking the place of the partner
I do wish they brought up the plot point of the possibility of you returning to the human world earlier (as they did in Explorers, where you knew that you were going to disappear before you saved the world), which would give a more profound emotional impact when the big plot twist happened with your partner being Mew and having to disappear. But maybe that's just my nostalgia speaking.
Told you
my favorite part of the epilogue is the "THanK YoU" that appears on the whitescreen
Spoiler
I dare you to walk into nuzleaf's house without getting a weird feeling
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 29, 2015, 11:26:51 AMSpoiler
I dare you to walk into nuzleaf's house without getting a weird feeling
I don't accept that.
Spoiler
Actually, I'd think I'd get a weirder feeling if I entered Carracosta's house. No, I'd probably cry.
Meanwhile,
Post-game
I've started the Mew quest, gotten through the first Sand Dune whatever dungeon with a bunch of tries and a huge amount of Wand spam (not the Stayaway Wands though, saving those), but considering how useless Flora the Snivy was during the main game (after looking over forums now, people seem to say that Snivy is the weakest starter .-.), many would say just to ditch her after I get her back.
But, well... I couldn't do that. <3
At least that explains why Flora kept getting one-shot in every dungeon and did peanut damage. Superfan the Riolu at least did walnut damage and got two-shot instead a couple of times.
I wish we could change to Hidden Abilities. Then Flora could be useful with Contrary-Leaf Storm spam. :/
Oh, and by the way, what's everyone favorite theme from the game? Mine would have to be:
Spoiler
Tree of Life: Roots, although the second phase of Dark Matter's fight is really close.
It's a tossup between Wandering Ampharos and Mystery of Fossils
Well, I've done everything in the story...
...To reset? Or not to reset?
Hmm...
;_;
reset
I did, so did K-NiGhT
the story still gets you the second time around ._.
All right, I think I will.
The reason why I'm conflicted is because I've already done a lot of preparation for endgame shenanigans... But I should know by now not to get too attached to my save file.
Besides, Explorers never did a good job of keeping me around for long after the endgame. The lack of story and characterization in the post-game made the world seem so dull and boring...
I'm definitely picking Snivy for a partner again (even though her power level is garbage-tier). Should I pick Riolu again for a starter?
i beat the game, credits rolled
FDJGKFDJKGKBMVJKMFJKRMGJK HUH????
is my reaction
(post-game is a real bitch though, I'm a Pikachu and there keep being all these ground- and grass-based dungeons and im like cant we have one with nothing but ducklett so i can spam electro ball forever. But like I just went into
Spoiler
Purifying Cave
and I died on floor 12 like uHHGHH)
Quote from: Altissimo on November 29, 2015, 07:08:52 PMi beat the game, credits rolled
FDJGKFDJKGKBMVJKMFJKRMGJK HUH????
is my reaction
(post-game is a real bitch though, I'm a Pikachu and there keep being all these ground- and grass-based dungeons and im like cant we have one with nothing but ducklett so i can spam electro ball forever. But like I just went into Spoiler
Purifying Cave
I'll rescue you
eh i just turned off the game because i didnt feel like waiting
But thanks for the offer
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
So, the Voidlands... They remind me of this scenario from Roller Coaster Tycoon 1.
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/rct/images/a/ac/Icarus_Park.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20100912200346)
Also fuck you Nuzleaf. Piece of shit. Go take you and your stupid Nuzleaf nipples to hell. And your stupid fucking Yveltal. I speculated about Yveltal being involved, too. And guess what. FUCK YOU.
Oh, might as well explain my choice of names.
Spoiler
My Cyndaquil's named Phosphor. It's just stuff that's luminescent. Also shows my interest in chemistry and all that.
Partner's Snivy. Named Tsuga. Named so because "Tsuga" is the Japanese word and is the genus of the hemlock tree. I grew up on the west coast, so I've seen them a lot. Gives me a nostalgic feeling. Also a pun on Snivy's Japanese name, Tsutaaja.
The team name used to be Allumage, the French word for ignition. Chosen because Bespinben suggested something that sounded like a fine wine. It refers to the creation of the fires of friendship. Then I misread it as "Illuminati". So now, the Illuminati is trying to recruit every single Pokémon.
Quote from: Altissimo on November 29, 2015, 07:08:52 PM(post-game is a real bitch though, I'm a Pikachu and there keep being all these ground- and grass-based dungeons and im like cant we have one with nothing but ducklett so i can spam electro ball forever.
Lmao meee I'm basically going through these dungeon with endless reviver seeds and wands because I've resigned to the fact that there's no way I can fight them myself
This soundtrack is so amazing though :') idk if I just wasn't as invested in Gates or if this one is that much better but I forgot how much I could love a pmd soundtrack. Ive had it on loop for about 4 hours now. Keep on arranging my friends.
Kman96 has the game. I don't.
He is a Mudkip named Kelsey. His partner is a Torchic named Eric. :')
(I have been waiting for years for him to name a video game character after me.)
(http://pm1.narvii.com/5932/ec1e2ae33fc6342bcba93223ea2089ac46f7530c_hq.jpg)
isn't it luvverly
cutscenes everywhere
Quote from: Bespinben on November 30, 2015, 11:17:02 AM(http://pm1.narvii.com/5932/ec1e2ae33fc6342bcba93223ea2089ac46f7530c_hq.jpg)
All too accurate.
I swear every time I save and quit to menu it says "you should take a break!"
What the fuck do you think I'm doing??
Once or twice that message popped up not ten minutes after I started the game. .-.
I'm a frequent saver by nature, so I don't really mind.
Just a thought - I'd love to see how others arrange the first 30 seconds of didgeridoo island fire island volcano for piano.
ok i beat the epilogue, at least as far as
Spoiler
rescuing Mew/getting your (not-Mew) partner back at the end of Purifying Cave
and idk, is there any more Real Plot after this? or is it just all treasure-hunting and pokémon-recruiting? (I'd like it if someone could tell me, but don't spoil anything)
if this is it, then I have to say that imo, while this is immensely fun and probably has the best gameplay of any MD game yet (even though the difficulty level of the dungeons is -ridonkulous-), the Plot of Explorers is better. Not by much, mind you, but still. Maybe that's just because time travel and sacrificial heroes are like my absolute favorite things in the world, though lol
Quote from: Altissimo on December 01, 2015, 05:45:17 AMok i beat the epilogue, at least as far as
Spoiler
rescuing Mew/getting your (not-Mew) partner back at the end of Purifying Cave
and idk, is there any more Real Plot after this? or is it just all treasure-hunting and pokémon-recruiting? (I'd like it if someone could tell me, but don't spoil anything)
if this is it, then I have to say that imo, while this is immensely fun and probably has the best gameplay of any MD game yet (even though the difficulty level of the dungeons is -ridonkulous-), the Plot of Explorers is better. Not by much, mind you, but still. Maybe that's just because time travel and sacrificial heroes are like my absolute favorite things in the world, though lol
I don't believe so, from what I heard online. I restarted right after that anyways, so I wouldn't personally know.
I think the dialogue is more well-written in this game, and the levels of suspense and feels are both higher in my opinion. However, PMD Explorers has a more coherent plot overall.
Quote from: Altissimo on December 01, 2015, 05:45:17 AMok i beat the epilogue, at least as far as
Spoiler
rescuing Mew/getting your (not-Mew) partner back at the end of Purifying Cave
and idk, is there any more Real Plot after this? or is it just all treasure-hunting and pokémon-recruiting? (I'd like it if someone could tell me, but don't spoil anything)
if this is it, then I have to say that imo, while this is immensely fun and probably has the best gameplay of any MD game yet (even though the difficulty level of the dungeons is -ridonkulous-), the Plot of Explorers is better. Not by much, mind you, but still. Maybe that's just because time travel and sacrificial heroes are like my absolute favorite things in the world, though lol
yeah it's probably better to restart if you're not wholly interested in the postgame like slow is
nah im invested in the postgame, im just wondering if there is Plot left
nope that's it
Partner's Theme reminds me a lot of His Theme from Undertale.
Mostly because it also seems to be mixed in quite a few other themes.
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Especially the final battle theme... that hit right in the feels.
I went to a dungeon that was full of nothing but Genesect earlier
i regret everything
that one was so dumb
also has anyone figured out how to beat mewtwo yet
does endeavor work?
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 01, 2015, 03:52:53 PMthat one was so dumb
also has anyone figured out how to beat mewtwo yet
does endeavor work?
I heard that using a Ban Seed to stop Recover is a good strategy. Try that.
I don't know about Endeavor, but that would break the fight completely if it did work. I hope it doesn't, actually.
Quote from: mastersuperfan on December 01, 2015, 04:13:52 PMI heard that using a Ban Seed to stop Recover is a good strategy. Try that.
I don't know about Endeavor, but that would break the fight completely if it did work. I hope it doesn't, actually.
oh, that should work! Basically, I was bringing 20+ reviver seeds to the fight and I kept spamming alliances and he would take plenty of damage, but then he would use recover and gain 900 (?) HP and I cried
I haven't played this in like five days oops
...who would even...
(http://i.imgur.com/82Juc7f.jpg)
why
Ben clean your screen
I would
Chapter 16
Nuzleaf: The Wily Pokémon
wily: skilled at gaining an advantage, especially deceitfully
O.O
Spoiler
Quote from: mastersuperfan on December 03, 2015, 02:59:18 PMChapter 16
Nuzleaf: The Wily Pokémon
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(http://t08.deviantart.net/bf5motIaU-J8UGhPph1QwXZfnVM=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre15/8a4e/th/pre/f/2009/189/e/6/nuzleaf___the_wily_pokemon_by_darkmetaknightftw.png)
Quote from: Latios212 on December 03, 2015, 03:08:33 PMSpoiler
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(http://t08.deviantart.net/bf5motIaU-J8UGhPph1QwXZfnVM=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre15/8a4e/th/pre/f/2009/189/e/6/nuzleaf___the_wily_pokemon_by_darkmetaknightftw.png)
you got me I laughed
I finally played this again last night lmao. Luckily they had a lot of story refreshers at the save point because I had totally forgotten what was going on (thanks college)
http://musicalcombusken.tumblr.com/post/134436929996/well-im-not-really-an-idiot-im-rescuing-leave
Image
(http://i63.tinypic.com/a3egro.jpg)
Now we know what your character really thinks about the partner...
I kept trying to answer the wrong way and it wouldn't let me
it made me question why exactly they pretended to give you a choice
Quote from: mastersuperfan on December 05, 2015, 07:58:50 AMImage
(http://i63.tinypic.com/a3egro.jpg)
Now we know what your character really thinks about the partner...
Hey, I took a picture of the same event!
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CU2sDdHUEAA67dA.jpg:large)
Poor Snivy...
Chapter 16
Lmao I called Nuzleaf being a bad guy from the first five minutes of the game
Quote from: Dude on November 28, 2015, 02:37:56 PMI NOTICED THAT TOO
I just ignored it tho as I don't think it did anything...
Sawk's Rock Smash pounds open the wall and expands the size of hallways and rooms -- that's why you encounter some rooms that are weirdly shaped and why the hallways are so wide in Reverse Mountain randomly. I only know this because I happened to walk by a Sawk using Rock Smash on the wall. So it's not a glitch.
Chapter 21
Just beat Yveltal and saved at the chapter break. I've gotta be through with the story soon, right?
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 08, 2015, 01:02:51 AMSawk's Rock Smash pounds open the wall and expands the size of hallways and rooms -- that's why you encounter some rooms that are weirdly shaped and why the hallways are so wide in Reverse Mountain randomly. I only know this because I happened to walk by a Sawk using Rock Smash on the wall. So it's not a glitch.
Chapter 21
Just beat Yveltal and saved at the chapter break. I've gotta be through with the story soon, right?
yep! Prepare your feels! Also get ready for legolas' special cameo (I really thought the last 2 chapters were kinda cheesy though)
I think a meme is sprouting from Sawk Smash. Go take a look at the GameFAQs PSMD board and you'll know what I mean.
Well, I beat the game (through the staff credits, anyway).
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Overall this game felt more epic in scale than any of the others. And certainly the gameplay is leaps and bounds ahead of the others. The music is on par with what was in Gates to Infinity, and the graphics are even better. But the plot I felt was probably the weakest of the four games. It just felt so impersonal, like I didn't care about most of the characters much. The plot twists felt even more "dramatic soap opera" than usual, and for once I don't even mean that as a good thing--the story started throwing twists one right after the other to the point that I got really irritated. It moved so fast that I didn't really feel anything. Idk, at least I have a fun-looking post-game ahead, but the narrative was pretty lame considering what we've seen before. Good game, but in terms of plot, didn't work for me very well. That's just my opinion.
perhaps you should play through it the second time. At first when all the plot twist stuff happened I was like oh come on that explanation is lame but when I played through it again, so many little things jumped out at me and it just made so much sense. I'd recommend it if you thought the story was shaky
Nah there's no way I can sit through it again, it was like 25-some hours. And considering I predicted 90% of the plot twists there's not much that I missed. Gates to Infinity had a better plot imo
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 08, 2015, 11:48:16 PMNah there's no way I can sit through it again, it was like 25-some hours. And considering I predicted 90% of the plot twists there's not much that I missed. Gates to Infinity had a better plot imo
Interesting. I actually enjoyed this plot for what it was worth and thought it was one of the best that the series had to offer, but I can definitely see your complaints with it.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely enjoyed the plot :D I just thought of the four games, it was the weakest one. I'm not trying to rag on it because I honestly would call this my favorite Pokémon Mystery Dungeon for the gameplay and quality of execution alone.
The plot's not very coherent, and there are a lot of loose ends everywhere... Plus, there's the dominant issue of the first half starting really slowly and the second half being a big story dump. But, I think overall the story is very touching. I personally didn't expect any of the plot twists.
If anything, the dialogue is very well written.
Quote from: mastersuperfan on December 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PMThe plot's not very coherent, and there are a lot of loose ends everywhere...
This is what I meant
I THOUGHT SO but playing through it a second time made everything make a lot more sense
OOPS
so I uh
I'm on 12F of Mystery Jungle...
anyone wanna... rescue me? 5 star adventure! (that means quality)
u still waiting? I'll give it a go
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69ipcwAYYqH4SNb)
gud lach
ok i have to eat dinner but i'll get right on it afterward
ok nocturne i rescued u unfortunately i have to give a password and not a QR code cause i dont get how these newfangled QR things work
3NF9FY1 +4R&7Q 5T#NMKR
-J6KC(circle)X 5++84& 2FWT=#R
67F6+WN (circle)3(circle)#W+ 2T0Q%+5
W(circle)9XXTX P121H4 MNM(circle)NPC
Quote from: Altissimo on December 10, 2015, 04:50:21 PMok nocturne i rescued u unfortunately i have to give a password and not a QR code cause i dont get how these newfangled QR things work
3NF9FY1 +4R&7Q 5T#NMKR
-J6KC(circle)X 5++84& 2FWT=#R
67F6+WN (circle)3(circle)#W+ 2T0Q%+5
W(circle)9XXTX P121H4 MNM(circle)NPC
what I do is when it shows you the codes, press the home menu, click on the miiverse icon, click save a screenshot or whatever, then tap the picture of the qr code/bottom screen and save it. Then go to the miiverse on your pc and find the image and copy its url. Embed it and presto you get a fancy QR code like mine
do you want me to do that or can u use the password tho
Quote from: Altissimo on December 10, 2015, 05:08:37 PMdo you want me to do that or can u use the password tho
...I'll just type in the password. You work on taking screenshots. Can we all agree to use "o" for the ring though?
yeah that's actually probs the best idea lol
thanks for the rescue :D how did you do it so fast though
skill
... idk lol
Yay! I know it's not much, but please accept this.
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69ipdbZ0DXW-eqC)
(idk if you can steal this but just in case if you're not alti don't be a jerk)
post-postgame
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69iplgjo1VxDL1C)
Still a better love story than Twilight
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 11, 2015, 01:20:41 PMpost-postgame
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69iplgjo1VxDL1C)
Still a better love story than Twilight
What
O.o
oh wait no that must be Whitney's, no wonder
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 11, 2015, 01:20:41 PMpost-postgame
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69iplgjo1VxDL1C)
(http://i.imgur.com/S6XC3dR.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/aPiYaIm.png)
I think this nicely describes my reaction to the Fire Island Volcano music.
[snip]
the celebi is shiny for a reason...
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 11, 2015, 08:56:09 PMthe celebi is shiny for a reason...
That was the point of me taking the pic of it lol
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69ipr37Q6HvENjL)
Nuzleaf built his house to look like him ._.
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69iqV7gEI_fYDbo)
Now do the harlem shake
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 15, 2015, 03:33:30 PM(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/WVW69iqV7gEI_fYDbo)
Now do the harlem shake
How dare you evolve your characters
Now they're not kids anymore
Quote from: mastersuperfan on December 15, 2015, 04:40:15 PMHow dare you evolve your characters
Now they're not kids anymore
but they're STRONG
ish
I still have like a third the HP that the wild pokemon in dungeons do (which seems a little unfair) but I'm sure there's some way to get it higher
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 15, 2015, 04:44:01 PMbut they're STRONG
ish
I still have like a third the HP that the wild pokemon in dungeons do (which seems a little unfair) but I'm sure there's some way to get it higher
FYI
Evolving changes your stats in no way. The only thing it does is affect typing and movepool.
Man that's kinda BS imo, with how easily everything can kill you in this game we need some stat boosts.
Quote from: Nebbles on December 15, 2015, 05:00:34 PMMan that's kinda BS imo, with how easily everything can kill you in this game we need some stat boosts.
this
I can't figure out how to get my hp as high as it was when I was battling entei
I'm so disappointed in you Noc 😔
Someone buy me this game kthxbai
Got my 15-year old sister PSMD for Christmas... and then gave it to her yesterday because I couldn't wait. Somehow she's already completed the Serene Village arc and is now making her way to Lively Town.
Mission success.
Quote from: Bespinben on December 20, 2015, 12:59:15 PMGot my 15-year old sister PSMD for Christmas... and then gave it to her yesterday because I couldn't wait. Somehow she's already completed the Serene Village arc and is now making her way to Lively Town.
Mission success.
sounds like me
"Hey matthew here's a 3DS merry christmas"
-last summer
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corsola is such a troll
because i had just gone through dragalge's monster house like 4 floors before
woot cape of wonders
also now crystal cave music is playing woot
yoooo 1650 expedition points and 20 pokemon connected with from that expedition
Double post.
Found portraits (creds to Silverhawke for ripping and converting)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdg4ca36atdffmn/face_graphic.zip?dl=0
You can easily crop out the description.
This game is amazing! ...But I can't help but wonder, are the rumors true? Is this the last Mystery Dungeon?
How can we know at this point?
I personally hope it's the last one. I don't think we need any more Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.
I'm a little reluctant to say it, but I agree. I feel like PSMD kind of jumped the shark.
How so?
idk if this game needs or wants another one after it
It really seemed like PSMD was aiming to be ultimate. It included every Pokémon and borrowed lots of elements from all the Mystery Dungeon games before it (kind-of like a grand finale, right?).
Well, I wouldn't be opposed to a re-release or DLC of the previous games in 3D. Although I don't think it's likely that it would ever happen.
Progress from my no-reviver seed run of this game:
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I decided to do Ancient Barrow solo by disabling my team's moves and waiting until everyone died before going to the next floor.
It becomes a lot more difficult this way... And now I feel like a complete asshole.
I'd love to see a lot of scenery from Explorers in 3D, not gonna lie.
Honestly, I thoroughly enjoy the MD series, but it does need a rest. This game does seem to be finale-ish, which would make the claim I mentioned in my previous post make all the more sense.
I'd rather the PMD series end here, then go on and decline in quality.
*twitches slightly*
It seems to me that Spike Chunsoft seems to now have a pretty good idea of how to make Mystery Dungeon games, so I don't think a possible successor would be of bad quality. Although I have been disappointed once before, so...
Quick question: in the game's sound files, what's the one called "BGM_DUN_22_OLD"? I don't recognize it.
Nvm, it's Glacier Palace - Eastern Spire. I can't believe I didn't remember it, was probably overshadowed in my memory by the Great Spire music.
Turns out the lovely datamining community has taken a gander to PSMD!
http://www.vg-resource.com/printthread.php?tid=28225&page=5
Tototile model rip
(http://i.imgur.com/tVAOaxp.png)
Lively Town model rip
(http://i.imgur.com/ukWjVUY.jpg)
Dark Matter model rip
(http://i.imgur.com/aKkY9O6.png)
put the
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dark matter spoiler
in another "endgame" spoiler tag juuuuuust in case someone hasn't beaten it yet
also I hate totodile's model, the back end of the scarf doesn't show cuz he's so fat
Someone should use the PSMD town rips and put them in Zelda OOT somehow. I'd love to see a Zelda game using the PSMD towns, even though it's as likely of a dream as PSMD getting redbook audio remixes
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on January 09, 2016, 04:40:01 PMSomeone should use the PSMD town rips and put them in Zelda OOT somehow. I'd love to see a Zelda game using the PSMD towns, even though it's as likely of a dream as PSMD getting redbook audio remixes
(Wow... so TheDreamingHawk has a dream... I could get behind a dream like that.)
but why
the town themes already sound so similar
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 09, 2016, 04:51:55 PMbut why
the town themes already sound so similar
Lively Town x OoT Market
mashup!?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MkKDR9CpCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZK9b3WT9rE
Oh, wow, never noticed how similar they sound...
But that being said...
Here is that mashup! (http://youtubedoubler.com/hjwP)
It is however by no means one you would probably want to listen to
my ears
export the sound as midi files then import it into finale and manually align them to make them sound good
i ship buizel x archen
new otp
i got all the pokémon and it kind of murdered my interest in the game lmao
Quote from: Altissimo on January 10, 2016, 09:47:56 PMi got all the pokémon and it kind of murdered my interest in the game lmao
That's what fanfics are for!
I feel like once I get all the Pokemon recruited, I'm not gonna have anything to do but start over.
Quote from: Bespinben on January 10, 2016, 09:49:33 PMThat's what fanfics are for!
find me sme good ones then
im too lazy to do it myself apparently
I'm probably going to restart the game. This is without a doubt the highest replay value I've ever seen in a game
or even a lot of books
How 😂
I DUNNO MAN THE STORY JUST GETS ME EVERY TIME
I'm still working towards 100% slowly but surely... So slow that one of my IRL friends who's not that good at video games somehow beat me to getting the Silver Badge. I'm wanting to take my time since I fear this is the final PMD game and I want to make the joyous experience last.
Honestly, if I had a 3DS Capture device and another PSMD copy I would probably go speedrun PSMD just for fun. It just seems so easy to do, since some routes could be used to skip the mission days and make the story move faster, plus some items are broken as heck. I could easily see PSMD being as popular as BRT in the Speedrun community if interesting tricks are discovered.
PMD will never be popular among speedrunners because it's so RNG focused
This just makes me so happy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKXedXltODk
oh god
"pokémonmusic_cow"
but daaang...
Is there any reason the Foreboding Forest sheet music is overdue, beyond Ben making a website? =/
That is amazing... I just loooove relaxed swing songs!
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on May 07, 2016, 11:50:16 PMIs there any reason the Foreboding Forest sheet music is overdue, beyond Ben making a website? =/
Life?
Quote from: Bespinben on May 07, 2016, 01:55:16 PMThis just makes me so happy
*sigh* it is happiness yes but is it just bitter sweetness of what we've left behind
Sorry if this is a bump, but I do have a question for all you PMD veterans.
Super Mystery Dungeon is the first game I have bought in the series (plz don't kill me), so I need some suggestions on how to beat Poliwrath River.
So noob alert aside, I have Tepig (Me) and Mudkip on my team and was wondering what a good strategy would be.
I made it to the end once, but stupid Round got me pretty quickly..
Thanks!
Hey, it's fine to have Super PMD as your first game!
First things first - are you properly stocked on Oran Berries and Reviver Seeds? Those are really essential. If you're having trouble, grind in some older dungeons to get some levels before going back and trying again.
Don't bother with oran berries. They never helped me, not when every freaking pokemon in the dungeon would do twice my max hp with a water cannon. You never get to use the oran berries and your reviver seeds get wasted.
Get warp wands and stayaway wands instead, take the pussy way out.
Oran berries are actually quite good in multiples
Thanks for the tips!
(Again noob here) I didn't know you could return to previous dungeons, or rather, didn't bother to check!
My problem was probably going into it with 2 Oran Berries 3 Reviver Seeds..
Thanks again, I'll let you guys know when I beat it! xD
Best of luck!
Quote from: braixen1264 on May 13, 2016, 10:31:45 PMDon't bother with oran berries. They never helped me, not when every freaking pokemon in the dungeon would do twice my max hp with a water cannon. You never get to use the oran berries and your reviver seeds get wasted.
Get warp wands and stayaway wands instead, take the pussy way out.
every time you eat an oran berry your hp goes up by like 10, so I just gorge myself on them as soonas the mission starts.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on May 15, 2016, 06:42:50 PMevery time you eat an oran berry your hp goes up by like 10, so I just gorge myself on them as soonas the mission starts.
this is why they're good in multiples
Why did I not know of this
So I thought I was pretty much done with everything important except for the epilogue in this game. While I'm listening to the music on youtube, I keep seeing videos of legendary quests. I guess I won't 100% this game for a long time. But this new discovery is making me want to play the game again!
The only thing this game is good for now is homebrew.
and replaying the story
Quote from: Dude on May 29, 2016, 06:32:02 AMThe only thing this game is good for now is homebrew.
And the sound test
How can it possibly be fun to replay when the story is so predictable?
I guess sound test is reasonable though.
The only reasons I find it fun to replay the game is that you can have different characters, hear the music in action,
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remember the fun life you had before you left
, and doing some personal challenges. I was really considering restarting the game for those reasons but I really want to complete this game 100%
Quote from: Dude on May 29, 2016, 08:33:41 AMHow can it possibly be fun to replay when the story is so predictable?
I guess sound test is reasonable though.
I agree, the story was a slog the first time
i wish it werent so slowwwww
what's wrong with being slow
I'd replay Super PMD if there was more non-story segments - like either you hardly progress in the story or you have no free time to level up in dungeons, and I disliked that.
I haven't played any of the other MD games but I found this to be extremely fun and had very few flaws. I felt like there was enough segments to play around between story moments. Well, now that I think about, you had more free time during the "child" portion then the actual story came.
You did, I think, so if I do replay it I'll grind during there. But also the missions with the orb thing seem like they don't shuffle or randomize on subsequent playthroughs, which would really take out the fun if it was predictable.
O____________O SWEET MERCIFUL CRAP I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT JUST HAPPENED...
I beat the game
YOUR PARTNER WAS MEW THE ENTIRE TIME?!?! DDDDDDD: AND THEY JUST LEFT YOU RIGHT THERE AND YOY HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THE CREDITS WATCHING YOUR CHARACTER SIT AND SUFFER. AND THAT FINAL BOSS, THOUGH!! DETERMINATION AT ITS FINEST! :') THIS GAME IS AWESOME WITH ALL ITS TWISTS AND TURNS. AND WHAT ABOUT NUZLEAF???? Don't tell me if it happens, but I really hope to see him again.
this game is great see
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It certaintly took me by surprise but I didn't find it all that sad. It felt lilke the game did a bad job making you feel bonded with your partner, so he went away it was just kinda meh
Basically that
I'm taking ages to play through PSMD, mainly because that happens when I watch a let's play of a game, then play it.
As for my opinion on the ending...
I don't like it when they put plot twists right at the end of a story, after the conflict has been resolved, because usually it feels like they were put in for the sake of making the ending sad. I have a similar problem with Fullmetal Alchemist (2003) and Klonoa: Door to Phantomile, although moreso the former.