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So The Hobbit came out recently on December 14th, 2012.

In this thread, let us all discuss about it. =D

In my opinion, I thought it was awesome! I can't wait for the next two parts of the movie. I really want to watch it again. :3

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Here's my take on it:
They pretty much went through half the book in the movie. Now coming up in part two, they're either going to finish the rest of the book in two parts OR what I'm hoping/hoping not, putting other books of Tolkein in the trilogy, like the necromancer and what not.

I'm not sure, but either way, it's going to be awesome. <3

They've already put non-Hobbit books in Part 1, so I can guarantee Part 2 and 3 will be the same way. Not being entirely made up of The Hobbit.

*SLIGHT SPOILER WARNING*
Movie-wise, it's awesome. Great acting, great special effects, and an excellent job creating unique characters for each dwarf.

Book-faithfulness-wise, it's terrible. Azog really did die from his wounds, it took hundreds of years for the Necromancer to gain power, and Radagast never showed up or was even mentioned. (Azog too, for that matter.)

BUT WHO CARES ABOUT FAITHFULNESS TO THE BOOK?! IT WAS AWESOME!!
I am extremely excited for The Desolation of Smaug.

EDIT:

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on January 06, 2013, 09:54:17 PMThey've already put non-Hobbit books in Part 1, so I can guarantee Part 2 and 3 will be the same way. Not being entirely made up of The Hobbit.

Most of that stuff was taken from the appendices. It really happened, it just wasn't mentioned in any of the books.

I ate all of our popcorn at the movie with Ruto and Saria!!!
It was A+++, also.

I keep forgetting to take a picture of the 59th Street station that's plastered with ads for the movie. I'm not sure if it's still up but I'll get a picture of it if it is.

Yeah the movie was awesome XD I just don't really get a lot of the complaints for it...

Simply breathtaking. Best movie of 2012 along with Skyfall.

Ahem. Wreck-it Ralph??

^Frankenweenie was much better in my opinion. As far as non-animated films go, though, The Dark Knight Rises and The Hobbit were both a lot of fun. Among the films I've seen, I'd say Life of Pi was my favorite of the year.

The movie was pretty good. Having not read the book I can't speak to the accuracy but it didn't seem to have any plot holes or anything :/ The ending through me off though. It felt just like Bourne Legacy-- "Wait. That was it? That was an awful place to leave off."

Definitely agree on Slow's comment about Life of Pi. Not only was it true to the book, it also had some sweet computer animation (an entire tiger? wuuut).

Anyhow, voted "good but too long"--it should have had more things from the book rather than all the extra stuff. Just my opinion--seemed like it didn't fit quite as well. I really enjoyed the movie though. Saw it twice (though admittedly the second time was just because a girl asked me to).

There's going to be two more parts to it coming out. It's going to be awesomeee with Smaug, Thorin and everything. I thought the movie and book were good in their own way. =D Awesome music too!

I did buy the soundtrack, it's good (albeit pretty much exactly the Lord of the Rings soundtrack with the Misty Mountains theme in it).

Yeah, I was a little disappointed with the soundtrack, since I was hoping for more non-recycled material from LOTR.

I like the theme that represents the ring--usually performed on strings.

Yah I noticed how much recycled material there was in the soundtrack...but Saria didn't really pay attention to LoTR when it came out so she wouldn't know. I have the whole soundtracks at home for 5 years and at least you're listening to them now lol.

This is a bit off topic but I heard Christopher Tolkien doesn't want any more movies to be made from his father's books. This makes me sad...the Silmarillion would have been pretty epic. There are dragons in that too. And Elves, lots of epic battles...

Quote from: Ruto on January 08, 2013, 08:26:32 AMSilmarillion would have been pretty epic.

omg yesssssssss

So these are the results for what did you think of The Hobbit?

IT WAS AWSOMEEE. (9 votes)
It was good, but too long. (1 vote)
It's okay. (1 vote)
ZOMG I HATED IT. (1 vote)
I like Milk Duds. (5 votes)
Gandalf smells like goat cheese. (2 votes)

I'm going to make a new poll now!

WOW, NSM REALLY LIKES DWALIN.

I made the new poll! So who is the hawtest dwarf? Here's a picture of them:

Dwalin:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSIXg4SMl-Hb7iwR_CEuZmoMTHzvCkCVG7m8vZ0SCnQvubCnRH7fA)

Balin:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLIKfs9_Fx2Fa50hk19lhHH26hZhY2De-O6djwSIAhtgSwjgqS)

Fili:
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQO00zwjPhDBc788B8Z6nkfauU8f67NpAc66XFDzocsTrgsokxg)

Kili:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQC1KfmbV_LvkdJ9rNSIwWB5vQXHIKzJb1IzhDQmrdHlepUN0Al)

Oin:
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRk7wqF9bDGpRntyGvpK-wZscHGcNjC2Qr18RuwVvm_OkwtHtS1BQ)

Gloin:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQgvWzrCIjyxbu8_Nhi4rjrnLlom57JjpslP7GmZ3vBTc-R-Furbg)

Dori:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLCFH7ANEKDFzjo480_muOO7OZ-RrHygaQt8fYXmg9cT3XOJGnKw)

Nori:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGFUjdsuSiAyJponCAe_vkdh8l-ptxHXscLMZSYzxQUkdzz6FgqQ)

Ori:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbjg20Nzc_au48obr0hMyRDqC2I3EzI5McEjIlVNTUGb26DXyz)

Bifur:
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Bofur:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRzzg_1miSOJ43POSQZqZ2-UgkG1KiE-6RT7lsheOKmvMwaChz-)

Bombur:
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqOEf9EZ5y1xtm5rv4Z1RRnREZBr7YTbhS_EBaK2MXtY_SNuuYRw)

Thorin:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4CHvZeHPBnQEgdOHFnIJstzmRxta3tGm5SVCVI8gf445KUzBlFg)


Personally, I think Kili is hot, but Bombur is IRRESISTIBLE. LOOK AT THIS SEXINESS:
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSROtBRsxl4Fpdz7ytkXav0uQjWk5zCmRvLwOYihQf9-dDKrDVQBw)

[6:43:59 PM] Saria: personally, i think kili is hot, but bombur is IRRESISTABLE

SHUT UP, SFK. EVERYBODY KNOWS BOMBUR IS EFFIN SEXY.

WAT? BEFORE THE POLL SAID 9 PEOPLE HAD VOTED FOR DWALIN.

Kili >>> All

Quote from: Mashi on February 19, 2013, 04:03:07 PMKili >>> All

Yes, absolutely.  Such a pro XD

I went to see it for the second time a couple weeks ago!  Still great!

Quote from: Saria on February 19, 2013, 03:52:29 PMKili:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQC1KfmbV_LvkdJ9rNSIwWB5vQXHIKzJb1IzhDQmrdHlepUN0Al)

Thorin:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4CHvZeHPBnQEgdOHFnIJstzmRxta3tGm5SVCVI8gf445KUzBlFg)

Out of these two... yeah, probably Kili. :P

I like Kili because of his his hawtness and awsm arrow skillz.

Why do you guys like him? Discuss.

OH AND DON'T FORGET BOMBUR'S SESSY MUSCLES.

I voted Ori for no reason.

bombur is clearly the best and only choice

Bump.

I recently watched The Battle of the Five Armies and loved it. What did you guys think? Legolas was awesome af.

You mean the stretching of the 5 pages?
Or do you mean that part where

PSMD spoilers

legolas tries to jump to the Tree of Life to save it from Dark Matter

[close]

oh dear now I'm just getting confused

nice try bruh

They said they wanted to make the battle have its own part because the tone was different from the other parts of the story. The first part was adventurous and exciting, the second part was when the quest was becoming more dangerous [they were more secretive sneaking around] and the last part was dark because of all those deaths over gold and it was hard to see who the good guys/the bad guys were.

I liked the battles a lot. Fighting choreography was great.

Yeah, I loved the part where the orcs decided to not swallow the entire dwarf-elf-man alliance with their giant tunneling earthworms that aren't in the book. That was the best part.

*high fives dudeman*

Maybe they're vegetarian, duh!

Okay, so have the earthworms eat the ground underneath them, causing the field to lose its structural integrity and the army to collapse on itself, subsequently dying by their own spears or orc archers.

It's not that hard, Azog.

"Don't you want to wait until dawn?"
"Are you kidding me there's like 12 of them and 10,000 of us.  We'll take over the mountain by sundown."
...
"I WANT MY NECKLAAAAAAAAAAACE"

They had to make a cool entrance somehow, it's a movie!

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 01, 2015, 08:38:53 PM"Don't you want to wait until dawn?"
"Are you kidding me there's like 12 of them and 10,000 of us.  We'll take over the mountain by sundown."
...
"I WANT MY NECKLAAAAAAAAAAACE"

Dain Ironfoot appears with his army but yes that last one was funny; war over a necklace. XD

Quote from: Dudeman on December 01, 2015, 08:26:06 PMYeah, I loved the part where the orcs decided to not swallow the entire dwarf-elf-man alliance with their giant tunneling earthworms that aren't in the book. That was the best part.

The book doesn't explain how a whole army got from the Misty Mountains and through a bunch of other mountains so quickly. Only solution: tunnels. Besides, like worms, they probably only eat dirt and can't really be trained to make tunnels that look like my name 5 miles below the Earth.

The book also doesn't have an elf-dwarf romance, Radagast, Saruman, Azog (beyond a passing reference), a wizard-elf romance, a battle on a flaming tree trunk overhanging a cliff, a corrupt mayor with a cross-dressing servant named Alfred, a prophecy, giant ballista-style black arrows, sons for Bard, Bombur in a barrel...

And I said before that the orcs could just have the worms dig a little bit farther and destroy the ground underneath the armies' feet.

Well books and movies are never exactly the same. I think both were good in their own way. The movie added more drama with all those things you listed and it was exciting to watch for the first time since it wasn't in the book. And people change things in movies to attract a wider audience. I think this movie is better than a lot of movies that came out recently yuck.

I've never been able to read a lord of the rings book
I've never been able to sit through an entire lord of the rings movie
but I sat through all the hobbit movies just fine

Eh, I guess I'm just salty that Peter Jackson thought it was necessary to split The Hobbit (which, mind you, is shorter than any of the LotR books) into three movies. Maybe one movie would have been a little long, but that's a sacrifice I would have been willing to make. Oh well.

The Hobbit could have been made into two movies with a bit of fluff or one 4 hour movie (which the extended LotR movies were). I think they tried to throw too much Tolkien into the movies. Also the Tauriel thing was completely extraneous.

I also think the Hobbit could have been two movies if they didn't add extra fight scenes.

There was an elf-wizard romance??? I thought they were just being friendly -.-

If they didn't add Tauriel and Galadriel, there would be almost no women in the movies. Don't think that would go over well with an audience.

Azog was supposed to be dead before the events of the Hobbit. Bolg is still around. The White Council did exist and meet around the time of the Hobbit and they *did* drive off the Necromancer at the same time, so including Radagast and Saruman wasn't a stretch. Aragorn's actor refused to be in movie when asked, now Aragorn would have been a stretch...The dwarves were stuck on the trees at some point. The Master of Laketown did exist and bard had descendants so children aren't that much of a stretch.

Did you really think normal black colored arrows could kill something that big? They would really have to be like bolts to work on Smaug...a normal arrow is a splinter to that dragon! even if you hit the eyes it wouldn't die from it, but get really irritated...

Quote from: Ruto on December 03, 2015, 10:10:37 AMIf they didn't add Tauriel and Galadriel, there would be almost no women in the movies. Don't think that would go over well with an audience.

Women in the LotR trilogy: Galadriel, Arwen, Eowyn. (Rosie Cotton too if you really decide to stretch.) I mean, sure, Eowyn's whole "I am no man" thing is badass, but the presence of only three significant females didn't seem to ruin the trilogy's success.

Quote from: Dudeman on December 03, 2015, 10:16:35 AMWomen in the LotR trilogy: Galadriel, Arwen, Eowyn. (Rosie Cotton too if you really decide to stretch.) I mean, sure, Eowyn's whole "I am no man" thing is badass, but the presence of only three significant females didn't seem to ruin the trilogy's success.

It's ironic that you don't seem to notice the difference between female/woman. Might want to fix that before a teacher or professor slaps you.

It's the movie I'm talking about, which another medium. If you want to appeal to the young people, you might want to try making a more inclusive world. Would anyone watch Avengers if there were zero women in it (at least think of the men who didn't come to see their asses beaten in looks/brains/ninja stealth/strength...).

Quote from: Ruto on December 03, 2015, 05:57:30 PMIt's ironic that you don't seem to notice the difference between female/woman. Might want to fix that before a teacher or professor slaps you.

.......
Does anyone else know what she means?

Quote from: Ruto on December 03, 2015, 05:57:30 PMIt's the movie I'm talking about, which another medium. If you want to appeal to the young people, you might want to try making a more inclusive world.

Well, that depends if you're willing to potentially butcher an author's work just to be more "inclusive." Though, to be fair, I think most of the criticisms towards the Hobbit films have to do with the fact that they tried to cram too much of everything into the films.

QuoteWould anyone watch Avengers if there were zero women in it (at least think of the men who didn't come to see their asses beaten in looks/brains/ninja stealth/strength...).

Considering how many women have been Avengers in the comics (including Wasp as one of the founding members), that isn't exactly a perfect comparison (and especially considering the ever-changing nature of comics; in continuity, the film series is a separate universe in itself).

Quote from: Ruto on December 03, 2015, 05:57:30 PMIt's ironic that you don't seem to notice the difference between female/woman. Might want to fix that before a teacher or professor slaps you.

It's the movie I'm talking about, which another medium. If you want to appeal to the young people, you might want to try making a more inclusive world. Would anyone watch Avengers if there were zero women in it (at least think of the men who didn't come to see their asses beaten in looks/brains/ninja stealth/strength...).

I'm pretty sure I'm at LEAST better looking than mark ruffalo and chris hemsworth, although chris evans has me beat.  RDJ is iffy, could go either way.  Scarlett Johansson IS pretty hot though

Quote from: Dudeman on December 03, 2015, 06:16:18 PM.......
Does anyone else know what she means?

maybe elves aren't women, just females? idk

It's gender vs sex. Though I wouldn't say there's a huge discrepancy in characters from the Lord of the Rings books.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 03, 2015, 06:32:42 PMWell, that depends if you're willing to potentially butcher an author's work just to be more "inclusive." Though, to be fair, I think most of the criticisms towards the Hobbit films have to do with the fact that they tried to cram too much of everything into the films.

I did think that the plot was a bit stretched out (especially when most of the last movie's events happened in one day???) I wouldn't immediately denounce the film as butchering the author's work because it's faithful to the children's book. Unlike a lot of adaptions, Tolkien wasn't alive to consult about plot details and he left A LOT of unfinished writing, and some details didn't agree with each other. The Silmarillion wasn't even finished, so we would never know what Tolkien wanted it to be. As long as it doesn't directly contradict the canon I wouldn't care. The Azog thing, though...if he wasn't out to kill Thorin, they would have just used another Orc. It really was Peter Jackson's vision of the book in the end. I'm fine with that.

Did anyone complain about Arwen replacing Glorfindel in the Fellowship of the Ring? I thought it was a bit cheesy. Quite a few reasons for the dislike of including Tauriel was about her appearance only -.- Shallow, but that's people for ya.

As for the art, I don't think many people could dream up of the artwork created from this one movie. I know Saria tried watching the animated Hobbit and LoTR films lmao

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 03, 2015, 06:32:42 PMConsidering how many women have been Avengers in the comics (including Wasp as one of the founding members), that isn't exactly a perfect comparison (and especially considering the ever-changing nature of comics; in continuity, the film series is a separate universe in itself).

Lol I didn't even read the comics, at most, I saw some covers. I wouldn't have even cared for the comics if I didn't see the movie, and I bet a lot of people thought the same about the Hobbit and LoTR. But if the Avengers for some reason was made up of JUST GUYS in the movie, would as many people have bothered to watch it? I'm sure Johansson's fame brought some fanboys who were "too cool" to read comics >_>

Quote from: Zunawe on December 03, 2015, 07:41:19 PMIt's gender vs sex. Though I wouldn't say there's a huge discrepancy in characters from the Lord of the Rings books.

More like not using female as a noun for humans. Other than statistics/research it's not really appropriate. Women are more than just their biological sex after all.

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 03, 2015, 06:33:37 PMI'm pretty sure I'm at LEAST better looking than mark ruffalo and chris hemsworth, although chris evans has me beat.  RDJ is iffy, could go either way.

Not sure if you're kidding or your ego really is that big ._. but Chris Hemsworth is like a 9.999999...xD with Voldemort being a 0 or less and dahans the bear being 10.00000000, not just for his looks but also his really cute charm.

I was kidding about chris hemsworth in that I don't think he's very good looking but hey I'm not a girl so what I say doesn't matter :P  I'm sure 100% of women ever would agree with you rather than me