The press conferences start in a few days and I think an E3 topic is necessary in a forum filled with spam. Just try to stay on topic please.
Anyway, I'm hoping that the nintendo press conference will be less disappointing than last year's. And I'm hoping for either a new kirby or zelda game for wii.
I'm going to expect Nintendo to be all "lol zelda spirit tracks as awesome zelda game" and "lol wii fit plus".
Perhaps they will come up with something, but I won't be watching them.
Yeah, your probably right. But I still have hope. Last year wii music was the big game they were releasing. The lights dimmed near the end and I though oh crapm this is gonna be huge! Is it a new zelda? Possibly a Kid Icarus? A new Kirby game? Nope. What I saw was Shigiro Miamoto come out on stage pretending to play Mario Overworld theme on a saxophone using a wii controller. Huge let down.
Apparently Miyamoto isn't even going to be at E3. Dun dun dun.
Darn. I just hope Sega has a couple more gems for the wii up their sleeves since Mad World and HoTD: Over KIll were awsome and The Conduit is going to be even awsomer. 13 different online modes! No friend code required to add someone to your friends list! And it just looks freakin sweet. I hope they have another game like at Mad World's awsomeness level announced at this e3.
The Conduit will flop.
As in nobody will buy it like mAd World? Or as in it will suck extemely not like Mad World? Because it was called the best wii game of e3 last year.
Quote from: Harvest on May 29, 2009, 06:31:31 PMThe Conduit will flop.
although i don't want it to happen, i wouldn't be surprised if thats how it will turn out... that game has been overhyped because it's a 'developed from ground up' "mature wii game", it's unbelievable...
Microsoft just raped Nintendo. Also, MGS for 360. Also, social networking on 360. Also, L4D2.
Nintendo better have some good stuff or else.
I'm assuming that you know that by raped Nintendo, I meant put out Natal.
Yah I i do. It raped nintendo the same way george lucas and steven speilburg raped Indiana Jones.
Natal could be amazing (and I pray it will be), or, it could crash and burn. It depends on how well it's made.
By the looks of it it will be very good.
my problem with natal is that it is been only a vague demonstration so far...
the motion recognition system, can it be overthrown by other movements in the room? what is the range of the recognition? and the voice as well, it would be incredible if it just sorts through all the words you may throw out to recognize specific ones or will it end up mixing commands up?
and the other problem is that it may look 1:1 now, but i remember when seeing the wii for the first time, many thought it was 1:1 or close to it after just glance but after dealing with it for a while, the problems only appeared more and more-- hopefully natal was not overly polished and buttered up for this show because if it works, then it easily destroys nintendo...
I saw that bit with Milo, and it cleared most of my fears. Unless that was a scam, then everything should be awesome.
I'm just a bit afraid that this will be the beginning of computers taking over the world....
I'm pretty sure that the fact that they could move their arms around and it perfectly emulates that on screen shows that it's pretty damn good.
I have a nagging suspicion that Milo's voice was provided by someone backstage. I was once in Disney World, and there was this attraction where you could talk to the sea turtle from Finding Nemo. I went in to see how it worked, and it was someone backstage controlling the voice and such.
I believe Microsoft could pull this off, but think of the amount of memory and power that kind of program would require to run 1:1. It seems like you would need an entire console devoted specifically to Milo. :-\
Who the hell is Milo?
Watched the whole Microsoft part, and was super impressed by what was developed so far, mainly the Natal (although Milo was kind of impressive, albeit uncanny valleyish). Although I have the same fears with it as I did with Nintendo. I don't know if they can implement it into gaming without becoming gimmicky. Oh well, I guess it's up to the developers now.
Quote from: Harvest on June 01, 2009, 08:01:32 PMWho the hell is Milo?
Lionhead's virtual boy. (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-lionhead-milo/50016)
...great. Thanks Nintendo, gimmicky 4 player Mario Bros. Exactly what we wanted.
But but, liek Wii Fit Plus!
\o/
I only got to watch the last ten minutes of Nitendo press conference(damn you school!) but Dead Space: Extraction, the upcoming metroid(which looks way better than Prime 3 was), and the conduit looked pretty sweet even though I'd known about the Conduit for a while now.
OMG METROID
I couldn't tell if the Metroid game was in 1st or 3rd person. Oh well, I'm sure it will be good. :)
Not mentioning any Zelda makes me sad though. And meh at SMG2.
Mario Galaxy 2. Fuck you Nintendo. Metroid. Yay.
So they said it was third person, but does that mean sidescroller or third person shooter?
Also, Wii Vitality Sensor.
Oh, and now Sony has a motion controller that apparently rapes the Wii.
Metroid looks to swith back and forth between 1st shooter and 3rd sidescroller. :D
Wth do they think is going to happen with the vitality senser? NO ONE CARES. Actually, most of their conference was devoted to casual gamers. WHY? E3 IS A GAMING CONVENTION. It's only us hardcore nerds who are actually watching it!!!
Same thing with the Women's Murder Club, Wii Fit+, and Style Savvy. WHO GIVES A ****?
Galaxy 2 looks alright, but I was hoping they were gonna say Sunshine 2.
When they said '4' and 'Super Mario', I was thinking: "No way! SMB4!" But no, we get multiplayer Mario instead.
Beyond that, pretty much everything they showed, we already knew about.
BTW, why is it they showed nothing from Spirit Tracks? They were like: "Oh yeah, and we're making a new Zelda game. Buy it when it comes out."
And that marketing lady really >:(ed me.
Quote from: SirIngusBingus on June 02, 2009, 02:03:44 PMWHO GIVES A ****?
You really shouldn't be afraid to say "Fuck".
...no offense.
Actually, I was thinking 'shit' or 'crap'. Whatever floats your boat, Dude.
Assassins Creed 2 looks epic.
Quote from: SirIngusBingus on June 02, 2009, 02:51:51 PMActually, I was thinking 'shit' or 'crap'. Whatever floats your boat, Dude.
If you ever say crap in any way, shape, or form, I will kill you in your sleep.
If you wish to know why, ask Hugo.
Um...ok...why, Hugo?
...Does he even post here anymore?
Good question...
Where the hell is Hugo?
He comes here... I wonder what happened... He's op in the chatroom, so I don't think he'd just ditch.
He runs GMW, and I've seen him there...
On the topic of E3, what happened at the Sony conference? My TV signal went out.
Ok so this Natal Milo thing.
So they've actually developed AI equal to a human brain as well as advanced robotic voice? I doubt both of those.
If it is real, I would so kill that kid.
3 words: GOLDEN SUN DS!
Holy crap. Greatest gaming news of my LIFE.
The Golden Sun games taught me to love RPGs, and to this day are, IMHO, the greatest and most well rounded RPGs I have ever owned. From the incredible graphics (The summons looked epic despite the fact that it was GBA based), the deep, emotional, enticing storyline, the amazigly composed music which perfectly accompanied both the happiest and saddest parts of that story, to the battle system, length of the adventure, even replayability. To hear that Camelot and Nintendo finally decided to do another Golden Sun game, phew. I'm speechless. I almost cried :'( watching the trailer i was so happy. And even though the demo at e3 has almost literally 10 seconds of play time, IGN seems to be pretty impressed with it (http://ds.ign.com/articles/989/989845p1.html (http://ds.ign.com/articles/989/989845p1.html)).
Here's to hoping it's the best one yet.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Harvest on June 02, 2009, 04:14:08 PMOk so this Natal Milo thing.
So they've actually developed AI equal to a human brain as well as advanced robotic voice? I doubt both of those.
If it is real, I would so kill that kid.
Robotic voice, yes, we've had that for years. As for the AI, it's impossible for it to equal that of the human brain, but MAN, that's pretty dang close.
I hope there's some more cool games for wii on the way.
METROID
Edit: And Silent Hill, and KH: 358/2 Days, and RE: Whatever the name is, and the Conduit....
Woo, PS3 motion control, PSP Go, MGS and RE for PSP. With those 2 along with LBP and Dissidia coming out for PSP soon, it looks like I got one at a great time. :D
So basically Microsoft raped everyone, but Sony still raped Nintendo. Nintendo was just plain awful, just like last year. Metroid was the ONLY good thing. SMG2 is meh. NSMB for Wii is meh. It's like an expanded Mario Party minigame.
Quote from: SirIngusBingus on June 02, 2009, 04:44:18 PMMETROID
Edit: And Silent Hill, and KH: 358/2 Days, and RE: Whatever the name is, and the Conduit....
I already knew about all three of those. I said I'm hoping for MORE.
Quote from: SirIngusBingus on June 02, 2009, 04:43:19 PMQuote from: Harvest on June 02, 2009, 04:14:08 PMOk so this Natal Milo thing.
So they've actually developed AI equal to a human brain as well as advanced robotic voice? I doubt both of those.
If it is real, I would so kill that kid.
Robotic voice, yes, we've had that for years. As for the AI, it's impossible for it to equal that of the human brain, but MAN, that's pretty dang close.
By advanced I mean sounding exactly like a real human. I'm not talking about Microsoft Sam.
Also, its impossible to equal a brain now, but in only a few years we will have one just as powerful as a human brain, then 18 months later we will have one double the power.
Read back to my previous post on the Disney World thing for the voicing thing.
How could we possibly design something more powerful than our own brains? WE CAN'T THINK OF IT.
Well once we created a machine equal to a human brain all we would have to do is...add more ram or something, increase a clock speed etc etc. Once that happens, the cpu can start building them.
I don't know, I'm sure you can find an explanation somewhere.
Nope. RAM wouldn't do it; that's just memory. Speed wouldn't do it, that's just a time frame. We would need some kind of nonhuman interference to push computers over the limit of the capacity of the brain. Nothing can design something that is potentially smarter than itself; the fact that it was designed proves its inferiority.
Ingus wins at A.I..
Also, does the PSP Go play old PSP games? :\
No, he's thinking with human mind terms. It is possible. He's not thinking of it right.
It does not play UMDs at all.
Quote from: SirIngusBingus on June 02, 2009, 04:43:19 PMQuote from: Harvest on June 02, 2009, 04:14:08 PMOk so this Natal Milo thing.
So they've actually developed AI equal to a human brain as well as advanced robotic voice? I doubt both of those.
If it is real, I would so kill that kid.
Robotic voice, yes, we've had that for years. As for the AI, it's impossible for it to equal that of the human brain, but MAN, that's pretty dang close.
Areyou talking about that AI IBM has been working on for a long time now. It upposed to be able to be to answer questions given using logic and reason of sorts. It's going to go on jeprardy unplugged from the internet.
Quote from: Gamer4250 on June 03, 2009, 01:41:33 PMNo, he's thinking with human mind terms. It is possible. He's not thinking of it right.
It does not play UMDs at all.
Elaborate. I could be wrong.
Perhaps make a computer equal to a human mind then take that and connect it with another. Have them work seamlessly together, as if they were one computer. Tell them to design a better computer.
That's the same thing as above; it's jsut more RAM and more speed if 2 computers are working together.
It's simple to make a computer that is better than the human mind. The human mind is restricted by our set-in-place laws, silly moral issues, etc. A computer has no need to worry about such issues, it simply retrieves data. If we could create one that could be self sufficient and actually be able to figure out things on its own, then there you go.
The only problem is actually making this. We have nowhere near the technology to make a computer this smart. Not yet.
Quote from: SirIngusBingus on June 03, 2009, 03:52:32 PMThat's the same thing as above; it's jsut more RAM and more speed if 2 computers are working together.
Two humans can't work together as if they were one human. Plus, a human with double the memory and double the speed in decision making has a more powerful mind than a regular human...therefore increasing the speed and ram of a computer would make it more powerful than a human..
Quote from: Harvest on June 03, 2009, 08:23:54 PMQuote from: SirIngusBingus on June 03, 2009, 03:52:32 PMThat's the same thing as above; it's jsut more RAM and more speed if 2 computers are working together.
Two humans can't work together as if they were one human. Plus, a human with double the memory and double the speed in decision making has a more powerful mind than a regular human...therefore increasing the speed and ram of a computer would make it more powerful than a human..
No, it would just make it a human that is faster or more efficient.
Quote from: Gamer4250 on June 03, 2009, 06:54:07 PMIt's simple to make a computer that is better than the human mind. The human mind is restricted by our set-in-place laws, silly moral issues, etc. A computer has no need to worry about such issues, it simply retrieves data. If we could create one that could be self sufficient and actually be able to figure out things on its own, then there you go.
The only problem is actually making this. We have nowhere near the technology to make a computer this smart. Not yet.
Some sort of emotionless cyborg might actually work better here, but your idea is more sound than Harvest's.
Anyway, back on topic, FF XIV is scheduled for 2010, but it's another MMO, which isn't really the series' forte. However, it doesn't seem as technolohy-focused as the most recent ones, which made me happy.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/
Therefore, the computer being twice as fast and twice as efficient is better than a human brain...
I really thought being faster would make you better.
Harvest is right. I don't know why you're saying he's wrong. You must be insane.
I'm sure I'm insane, but here's my reasoning:
Just because something is faster doesn't mean it's smarter. The computer would simply take less time to do the same task as humans, but the humans, with enough time, could do it equally as well.
Example: Class taking a test. The first kid done isn't guarenteed the highest grade, is he?
Yeah, but put this computer in that room and he would be done the test in less than a second and have everything 100% correct.
My point is, we can build computers that can operate at incredible speeds, (and thus get great amounts of work done) but we can't build a computer that can do something we could never do, no matter how much we had to do it in. A computer must be programmed to do something; they can't do anything we are unable to create a prgram for.
Example: Let's say, we're trying to figure out how to acheive warp speed space travel. We could make a computer figure out the formula, but only if we could find the formula ourselves eventually. If it is completely impossible for us to do, then it is also impossible for them to do. A computer must have instructions, even if they're very vague intructions.
Quote from: Harvest on June 04, 2009, 05:44:47 PMYeah, but put this computer in that room and he would be done the test in less than a second and have everything 100% correct.
A computer is only as smart as a human wants it to be...
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 04, 2009, 06:54:36 PMQuote from: Harvest on June 04, 2009, 05:44:47 PMYeah, but put this computer in that room and he would be done the test in less than a second and have everything 100% correct.
A computer is only as smart as a human wants it to be...
We're talking about a computer that is smarter than a human.
Yes but if the computer isn't connected to the internet, it can't just summon answers out of the blue by automatically searching them up. It either would have to use answers programmed into it by a human or, where AI comes in, logic and reason also pragrammed in by a human. So maybe later down the line we can make a computer that can match our intelligence based on pure intellect without any use of outside resources but right now I don't see it being possible.
The humans who designed this computer wanted it to be better than a human so they programmed all those things into it. Yes, a computer is only as smart as the maker wants it to be, but in this case the maker wanted it to be smarter than any human.
...so if you want it smarter than a human, you can theoretically do that.
I haven't heard much about this E3- only New super mario bros. wii and Halo reach. But what's this I hear about MGS for Xbox360?
There is one. It will feature Raiden. It is a multiplatform MGS.
Quote from: Harvest on June 04, 2009, 07:26:37 PMThe humans who designed this computer wanted it to be better than a human so they programmed all those things into it. Yes, a computer is only as smart as the maker wants it to be, but in this case the maker wanted it to be smarter than any human.
But the maker must be able to design the computer to be smarter than it! You can't just build a computer that is smarter than the human race, because all of the information it knows has to come from somewhere. There is a BIG difference between being smart (being able to understand and figure out) and having a larger memory (knowing more facts). Just as a computer could learn everything the interent has to offer, so can a human, assuming he has thousands/millions of years. A computer is only faster, not more intellegent.
Quote from: Tranzlater on June 05, 2009, 12:18:29 PMI haven't heard much about this E3- only New super mario bros. wii and Halo reach. But what's this I hear about MGS for Xbox360?
Project Natal looks to be the most promising new concept-Microsoft has created a controllerless interface, and it's pretty dang awesome.
Of course, the new Assassin's Creed looks completely badass, as does the new Splinter Cell. And Silent Hill looks pretty good too.
DJ Hero, on the other hand, looks just plain ridiculous.
Quote from: SirIngusBingus on June 05, 2009, 02:11:27 PMBut the maker must be able to design the computer to be smarter than it! You can't just build a computer that is smarter than the human race, because all of the information it knows has to come from somewhere. There is a BIG difference between being smart (being able to understand and figure out) and having a larger memory (knowing more facts). Just as a computer could learn everything the interent has to offer, so can a human, assuming he has thousands/millions of years. A computer is only faster, not more intellegent.
That's what I'm saying! All the informaton that a computer may ever know must be programmed into it unless it is programmed to simulate thinking by making a resonable guess based on the command or question given. And we don't have that kind of technology yet.
Exactly.
Dragon Age Origins looks like it could be pretty good, but I'm worried it'll turn into another one of those generic RPG games.
Well I really have no argument to what you're saying. However, I'm right that a computer equal to a human brain but faster is better. Really that is what I was saying.
What do you think about SMG 2?
Huh. It's like what I see as the difference between intelligence and cleverness- clever = knowing alot, intelligent = a good brain, able to understand.
We can make a cleverer computer, but we can never make a more intelligent computer unless we make it organic, or something.
SMG2 looks okay but I would much rather have a new LoZ.
OH! So you didn't hear, huh? ;D
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/696317/Nintendo-Releases-New-Legend-of-Zelda-Wii-Teaser-Artwork.html
*Fanfare*
Yeah, it'll be announced NEXT YEAR. Which means we won't get it until next holiday season at the earliest.
'Tis better than nothing.
Quote from: dahans on June 06, 2009, 02:59:33 AMWhat do you think about SMG 2?
LAME. It's the same game with different levels. What they should have done, if they were set on doing a rerelease, is brought back an older game, namely, Sunshine. Besides, Sunshine had a story, meaning a sequel is possible. Galaxy had no story worth speaking of, so a sequel makes no sense.
I never really liked Galaxy all that much. I preferred both Sunshine and 64 over it by far.
Good, I'm not the only one who feels that way. Galaxy was good, yes, but it wasn't awesome, like the other two.
I dislike all of Nintendo's key "hardcore" franchises. I really can't play any Mario, Zelda, or Metroid series games so I have never gotten any enjoyment from Galaxy, Twilight Princess, or the third Metroid and I do not look forward to any future installments.
I have no idea why, must be the lack of swearing and blood? Can't be, because I enjoy Animal Crossing :P
*Ingus casts Firaga
yep SMG wasn't that good. Sunshine and SM64 were much better (the best games ever in my opinion). But I will buy it and then Ill see if it's good or not.
Quote from: dahans on June 07, 2009, 11:41:02 AMSunshine and SM64 were much better (the best games ever in my opinion). But I will buy it and then Ill see if it's good or not.
Now that is bullshit.
Personally, I think Galaxy (although it may not be as revolutionary as Super Mario 64) takes the Mario-franchise to the limit: I highly doubt it's possible to create a better Mario-game than Galaxy.
I really hated the whole planets thing. It just got annoying and repetitive. It was a decent idea that could be used for like 5 stages or something, but basing nearly the entire game off of it just kind of ruined it for me.
They seem to be using that kind of concept in different forms for alot of games nowadays.(I'm talking strictly about Nintendo in this sentence BTW)
I loved 64- easily the best.
I didn't really like Sunshine, actually. It felt a chore to go thru all those levels... gawd...
Galaxy was great- I liked it how they brought back a load of stuff, and the galaxy system was good- but yeah, the story was next to none, worse than even the original SMB, and that was for NES. I don't know why they are making "SMG2", they should do a sequel but not another galaxy. What more is there to do? The story will just be "Oh, no, Peach was captured by Bowser again, oh no, the station fell apart only now it's in an alternate universe, oh no... let's do the same all over again... yaaaay..."
Quote from: Harvest on June 07, 2009, 10:06:53 AMI really can't play any Mario...or Metroid series games
Blasphemy
Quote from: Harvest on June 07, 2009, 10:06:53 AMI really can't play any... Zelda games
I share your pain.
Expecting a good story from a Mario game is like expecting a good story from Pac Man. Just accept that you'll never get one and just play the game.
^Meh, Sunshine's wasn't bad.
And I assume you're not including the Mario&Luigi and Paper Mario games in that, are you?
I believe he is. And the conduit is still awsome. My favorite part? No friend codes!
This Super Mario Galaxy 2 looks worst than the 1st game...
The trailer shown in E3 had bad graphics, non-ochestra music (= bad)... and the gameplay looks almost exactly as the 1st game, with some new stuff.... I love SMG, and It was one of my favourite games, but Ithink its a big mistake making the 2nd one.....We'll see...
Bad graphics? On a Wii game?
WHAT IS THIS MADNESS
The wii has worse graphics than the PS2. Which is really sad.
Is this really true???
^Shouldn't be. The PS2 was technically the "weakest" of the previous generation consoles, in other words, the GameCube had a better graphics engine (or whatever you call it). The Wii is, if only slightly, stronger than the GameCube.
Quote from: Gamer4250 on June 10, 2009, 06:15:00 PMBad graphics? On a Wii game?
WHAT IS THIS MADNESS
I sad comparing with the 1st SMG, which haves really good graphics.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 11, 2009, 04:27:45 PMThe wii has worse graphics than the PS2. Which is really sad.
Wrong.
Quote from: Cobraroll on June 12, 2009, 02:56:56 AM^Shouldn't be. The PS2 was technically the "weakest" of the previous generation consoles, in other words, the GameCube had a better graphics engine (or whatever you call it). The Wii is, if only slightly, stronger than the GameCube.
Right.
It does have worse graphics. Almost no games actually utilise the hardware.
^Then there's the games that have worse graphics. The console is capable of producing better graphics, but the game developers haven't utilised it to full potential.
Yep. They're too busy capitalising off their shitty gimmick games that morons keep buying.
That is so sad. More people buy Carnival games than MP3.
Sickening.
You've got to love the pirate circle for this one.
You got all the people with modded Wii's pirating the good games. Then, you got 100,000 moms buying all the bad games. Sales go up for bad games, good games sales drop like a rock. Woot. Developers see pattern. Bad games sell lots, good games don't. What should the developer make to get money? Bad games, obviously.
No wonder you only got a handful of good games on the Wii.
Thats the thing that enerves me on Wii games: they are shitty... most of them...
The companys that makes those games make them with horrible and childish graphs dont know why, because the console is capable of much better... Super Mario Galaxy is the game with better graphics on Wii.
Then, most of the games also have aweful and inprecise controls..
Only Nintendo is capable to make good games
Quote from: Tranzlater on June 13, 2009, 03:47:24 AMThat is so sad. More people buy Carnival games than MP3.
Sickening.
Really sickening...
I've never played Carnival Games. :P
Quote from: Sir Awesomesauce on June 13, 2009, 07:25:04 PMI've never played Carnival Games. :P
Thank God for that..... that game really sucks. ITS A WHOLE FAMILY GAME! RUN!!
Games for the whole family are always the games that suck. Excluding Boom Blox which was actually pretty fun.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 15, 2009, 10:10:42 AMGames for the whole family are always the games that suck. Excluding Boom Blox which was actually pretty fun.
I would like to play that game, but I never had a chance :-\
There's a new one coming out but the only reason I would buy it is because there's penguins wearing tuxedos in it.
Speaking of which, we haven't seen Tranz in a while...
Speaking of which God of War III looks amazing.
Speaking of what?
WOOOOO
I'm gonna get a PS3! IT'S OFFICIAL
With MGS4, LBP and Civ Revolution :o
If they release Dark Cloud 3 for the PS3 I'm definetly getting one just for that one game.
You're a preeeetty big Dark Cloud fan, aren't you?
Yep. Like you are with FF. Plus I've wanted a PS3 for awhile anyway.
Hey, they released FF7 on PS3store, should I get it?
Go for it.
I mean, FFVII was the traitor game, but it wasn't...bad. It just kinda made everyone angry because it was so different from the other ones.
I'm not a big FF fan so I don't know this but how was it so much different?
OH MY GOSHED
That game went against every rule ever laid down by FF. It was 3D in the wrong way, the battle system was screwed up, the story wasn't as deep as previous games, the characters just didn't fit in, and above all, it started witht the whole 'Technology' thing. Sure, an airship is fine, even a cannon. But once you start putting guns in a monsters and magic game, you've crossed the line.
There's one good thing about it. The fact that a non-greatest hits version sells for around 70 dollars if its in good condition.
I think it's kinda cool when victorian tech, medieval tech and futuristic tech clashes. It's like FFXII, and that was (and still is if they don't hurry up with XIII) bloody brilliant.
Quote from: Tranzlater on July 26, 2009, 03:17:06 AMI think it's kinda cool when victorian tech, medieval tech and futuristic tech clashes. It's like FFXII, and that was (and still is if they don't hurry up with XIII) bloody brilliant.
O:
Bloody Brill- oh, sorry, you're american.
Freaking Awesome.